Anyone else there with a car configured like mine, BMW won't tell me :(
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Why doesnt this guy post the last 7 digits of his VIN?!?
Then all speculation on what colour or what options he does or doesnt have is obsolete.....
The list he gives is far from complete anyway as its usually 2 pages long with all country codes/emission systems etc.
And yes, with 50 or so unique parameters that defines a car, its very likely that your car is unique, just like mine and the one from the next guy.
Then all speculation on what colour or what options he does or doesnt have is obsolete.....
The list he gives is far from complete anyway as its usually 2 pages long with all country codes/emission systems etc.
And yes, with 50 or so unique parameters that defines a car, its very likely that your car is unique, just like mine and the one from the next guy.
:lol:In the meantime I found now a timeline done from an insider of the german forum with all details for the E89 Z4.
Sorry, but your colour was not unique and an individual colour as expected (as I wrote already BMW did not offer any individual painting for the E89) but offered from beginning in 2009 till 2015.
Timeline is in german, if you have special questions, just let me know.
Crimson red = Karmesin Rot Uni
Sorry, but your colour was not unique and an individual colour as expected (as I wrote already BMW did not offer any individual painting for the E89) but offered from beginning in 2009 till 2015.
Timeline is in german, if you have special questions, just let me know.
Crimson red = Karmesin Rot Uni
Fazerfahrer said:
Thank you Thorsten, but I think you misunderstand.
My inquiry was how many E89 Z4s were produced in my configuration. Specifically:
1. Crimson red Exterior, AND
2. Extended Ivory Leather, AND
3. N54 Twin Turbo 6 cylinder, AND
4. Six speed manual gearbox.
As of today’s date, there are 962 E89 Z4 for sale on AutoScout24 covering the EU. Only 126 of these cars have the turbo six motor (Sdrive35i and Sdrive35is). Of these only 31 have manual gearboxes. Of these only ONE is red and it is Melbourne red and NOT crimson red…and it has a black interior. So, in all of the EU as advertised on AutoScout24 there are ZERO cars with my car’s color combination (Crimson red/Extended Ivory Leather) and engine/transmission combination (N54/Six speed manual).
On Mobile.de there are 639 2009 or newer Z4. Only 146 are Sdrive35i and Sdrive35is. Of these only 30 have a manual gearbox. Of these only ONE is red…..You guessed it!!! It’s the same red one also listed on Autoscout24.eu. (Melbourne red with black interior.)
So zero for sale in Europe.
Ebay has zero for sale in the USA.
Cars.com 515 E89 Z4 for sale, of which there are ZERO crimson red cars with twin turbo motors and six speed manual gearboxes (not to mention the extended ivory interior). In fact, there is only one manual gearbox turbo six car out of 515 and it is Melbourne red with a black interior.
So out of more than 1500 E89 Z4 for sale zero have my color and drivetrain combination.
Which brings me back to where I started. I already know this is a very rare configuration.
What I was HOPING to learn was SPECIFICALLY how many cars like mine BMW produced.
As that number is likely less than 10 I wouldn’t think such information would have been so difficult for BMW to provide. Just saying....
GuidoK said:Why doesnt this guy post the last 7 digits of his VIN?!?
Then all speculation on what colour or what options he does or doesnt have is obsolete.....
The list he gives is far from complete anyway as its usually 2 pages long with all country codes/emission systems etc.
And yes, with 50 or so unique parameters that defines a car, its very likely that your car is unique, just like mine and the one from the next guy.
Guido, perhaps something is getting lost in translation (must be my American-English
). I am not speaking of the option packages my car has. I am limiting it very simply:Color and powertrain combination: (1) Crimson red with Exclusive and Extended Ivory Leather with (2) the N54 twin turbo six engine and a manual gearbox.
Here is the last 7 of my VIN: E351333
I think the colour red is rare on E89's, as I've yet to see another one in any of the shades of red. The extended ivory leather is probably less rare (I have it on mine). The N54 with six speed manual won't be particularly rare at all, probably in the US but not in Europe anyway.
If you're genuinely looking at keeping this as a collectors car then you don't want to modify it in any way, as that will reduce it's value to another collector.
You asked about my spec in another post - Melbourne Red, ivory leather, M-sport package, N52, six speed manual.
If you're genuinely looking at keeping this as a collectors car then you don't want to modify it in any way, as that will reduce it's value to another collector.
You asked about my spec in another post - Melbourne Red, ivory leather, M-sport package, N52, six speed manual.
@valor1 I understand your point but keep in mind that the 1.500 on offer just show a little bit of more than 1% of the produced approx 116.000 E89.
If you can calculate out of these 1% the total amount overall I'm not sure.
I know that estoril blue i. e. is really rare with around 700 pieces overall independent from engine and interior. Main reason is that it was only available in the last month in combination mit M-Sport package.
If you can calculate out of these 1% the total amount overall I'm not sure.
I know that estoril blue i. e. is really rare with around 700 pieces overall independent from engine and interior. Main reason is that it was only available in the last month in combination mit M-Sport package.
Tumnus said:
Hello Tumnus and thank you. I agree, they will want it stock. But that's a different issue
As for the N54 twin turbo six and six speed manual being rare I would have to disagree with you:
As shown in the statistics above:
"There are 962 E89 Z4 for sale on AutoScout24 covering the EU. Only 126 of these cars have the turbo six motor (Sdrive35i and Sdrive35is). Of these only 31 have manual gearboxes."
THUS, only 31 cars.....out of 962 for sale, have a twin turbo six cylinder engine and a manual gearbox.
That's literally just 1 out of every 31 E89 Z4 for sale in Europe! That's really rare IMO.....again, just one out of every 31 E89 Z4 for sale in Europe has a turbo six cylinder engine with a manual gearbox.
Fazerfahrer said:
Thorsten
You are correct.
Yet, out of those 1500 or so for sale ZERO, not one, is a crimson red with exclusive Ivory leather car with turbo six cylinder and a manual gearbox. Moreover, I've been checking Cars.com, etc., for more than a year and never seen one. So its not just the present 1500....where there are zero.
...but, if you take the production figure of 116,000 quoted above, 1 in 31 gives you roughly 3,750 with that combination... so not 'really rare', not 'quite rare', with that many floating around they don't really fall into the category of rare at all....Valor1 said:
To give you an overview of available figures I have:
E89 in total 116.045
E89 as 35is in total 8.033
E89 as 35is registered in Germany 2.696
E89 as 35is and Valencia Orange in total 264
E89 as 35is and Valencia Orange registered in Germany 73
E89 as 35is and Atacama Yellow in total 258
E89 as 35is and Atacama Yellow registered in Germany 61
E89 in Estoril Blue all engine options in total 716
E89 as 35is and Estoril Blue in total 66
E89 in total 116.045
E89 as 35is in total 8.033
E89 as 35is registered in Germany 2.696
E89 as 35is and Valencia Orange in total 264
E89 as 35is and Valencia Orange registered in Germany 73
E89 as 35is and Atacama Yellow in total 258
E89 as 35is and Atacama Yellow registered in Germany 61
E89 in Estoril Blue all engine options in total 716
E89 as 35is and Estoril Blue in total 66
PerryGunn said:
Perry, I don't think your understanding perhaps because you missed the original post? First, if only 3,750 E89 were produced with the N54 motor and a six speed that is indeed pretty rare as that is the most sporting configuration. (If you prefer a "sports car" with stick as opposed to an automatic.)
But the questioned poised in this thread was about my car's configuration: Crimson red interior with the extended exclusive ivory leather interior and an N54 motor with a stick shift. There are ZERO such cars for sale on Cars.com, Autoscout24.eu and Mobile.de......where there are more than 1500 cars for sale.
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