6k for engine swap

[Steve_R1979]

9k is alot to most but not to me no offense or i wouldnt have spent it on the car.....it maybe a 2L although faster but the end of the day it looks like no other zed ive ever seen, shes a minter and a rare car in her own unique ways.
A bigger engine means a faster 0-60 better balanced car but nothing more when it comes to either a 2L,2.2, 2.5,3 or 3.2 on a Z4, mine even looks better then a stock M just not as fast. lol

Apart from the red roof and different wheels how does your look better then a stock M?

The M front is more aggressive, and has an M bonnet!

With the roof down you still have the dated grey panels and no M seats...

So i would have to disagree with that point... But i still think you should drop a better engine in.


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Have to agree, your Z4 isn't that special, no matter what you might think.

I realised many years ago (I'm 34 now) that throwing money away modifying cars is a fools game. I did nearly 20k on a golf VR6, saw less than half of it back at the end.

If you want a fast reliable car buy one thats fast from the factory.

Also, if 9k really is "not a lot of money" then do something useful with it like put it towards a house, or save it for when your not quite so well off.

 

[PerryGunn]

A bigger engine means a faster 0-60 better balanced car but nothing more when it comes to either a 2L,2.2, 2.5,3 or 3.2 on a Z4,

I don't understand this Jonny? What do you mean by "but nothing more...."?

I think he means a M is faster but apart from that is the same as his.

In that case, as JE isn't interested in speed, he can save £5990 of the £6k and just stick some eBay-sourced ///M badges on it...

 

[Steve_R1979]

I think ur all missing the point "I DONT want a second hand Z4" how many times, i just want a faster engine and asking for help not whether u like my Zed, didnt build it for you did I.
The ZM is epic but looks wise it would need changing for me, its the engine i want and its 340bhp, even the 3L
Block wouldnt need that much changed to the car to swap over and then build ontop of that increasing BHP bit by bit, its not about money, its not about a ZM, its not about anything but a car i love but has more BHP.

Then just put some Nos on it.

 

[andrewr]

I don't see any sense in what is being proposed here, however it's your money so do as you please. The only thing I would say is that why bother asking people's opinions when you've clearly already made up your mind.

Andrew.

 

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[Adamski]

Just get on and do something - we don't care what, just quit the chit chat and chuck and engine in it

Oh, and still don't understand the £9k malarkey..... RichardG has done almost all the same mods, for a fraction of the price, like £2k. He also bought his zed brand new BTW

Me thinks if you've spent £9k you've been well and truly ripped off

 

[PerryGunn]

I think ur all missing the point "I DONT want a second hand Z4" how many times, i just want a faster engine and asking for help not whether u like my Zed, didnt build it for you did I.
The ZM is epic but looks wise it would need changing for me, its the engine i want and its 340bhp, even the 3L
Block wouldnt need that much changed to the car to swap over and then build ontop of that increasing BHP bit by bit, its not about money, its not about a ZM, its not about anything but a car i love but has more BHP.

@JE, can I just ask, and this isn't intended to be provocative, why you want a 340 BHP engine? You've posted in your Essex meet thread that you won't go over 100mph, you don't do track days or try for fast Santa Pod runs, so, in all seriousness, what do you hope to gain from spending 'silly money' chasing a power upgrade...?

I'm not saying extra power is a bad thing but, if you're after better normal driving & round-town usability, you should be looking at something that gives you more torque at 'normal' revs rather than something that delivers lots of BHP at high revs (that you'll never use)

 

[StevenH72]

Doesn't JE add costs like servicing, new tyres, brakes etc into his mod costs?

Also Jonny, if you stick a 100k second hand engine into your car, it will basically be a second hand car....

Stick a turbo or supercharger onto your engine if you want to keep it a 1 owner example.

 

[Adamski]

I think ur all missing the point "I DONT want a second hand Z4" how many times, i just want a faster engine and asking for help not whether u like my Zed, didnt build it for you did I.
The ZM is epic but looks wise it would need changing for me, its the engine i want and its 340bhp, even the 3L
Block wouldnt need that much changed to the car to swap over and then build ontop of that increasing BHP bit by bit, its not about money, its not about a ZM, its not about anything but a car i love but has more BHP.

@JE, can I just ask, and this isn't intended to be provocative, why you want a 340 BHP engine? You've posted in your Essex meet thread that you won't go over 100mph, you don't do track days or try for fast Santa Pod runs, so, in all seriousness, what do you hope to gain from spending 'silly money' chasing a power upgrade...?

I'm not saying extra power is a bad thing but, if you're after better round-town usability, you should be looking at something that gives you more torque at 'normal' revs rather than something that delivers lots of BHP at revs that you'll never use

I think he just enjoys creating threads about it (sorry JE, but it's true 8) )

 

[StevenH72]

supercharge it.

 

[andysat]

Enjoy it for what it is?

 

[Steve_R1979]

If your so rich keep yours AND have an ZM too.

 

[edd_jedi]

Sorry to be yet one more person saying what you don't want to hear, but you already have a second hand car. It's nearly 10 years old, regardless of how many owners it's had it is old. And as you drive it every day, it's never going to be a future classic unless you put it in a container somewhere and never drive it. Also as others have said you have to understand that no matter how much you love it, it id a basic Z4. Do low mileage/owner 316i SE's end up in museums or collections? No, people only collect the high-end models. You have the base model.

It's a bit patronising to keep telling everyone that you love your car more than they do too. I guarantee you that I loved the 20 year old 150k mike Ford Fiesta I got when I was 17 just as much as you love your Zed. EVERY man loves their car! It's not a competition. I've been sad to see cars go in the past, but as long as you replace it with something better, then it will be worth it.

 

[ESP]

Lol this is a joke
"My car looks better than a ZM"

Is that with the Smaller brakes, lower spec interior / dash, non M bonnet, etc etc.....

If you love it that's cool. Fair play

Stop talking and get it booked in mate
;-)


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[Bing]

This forum is great for one reason....opinions.

Exactly

And you have had loads of opinions, suggestions and constructive advice. If money really is no object then you have more than enough to make a decision and go do it. But - you will keep getting the same opinions if we keep discussing the same thing :wink:

So my advice is - weigh up all the options, choose one and go do it. Once you start a thread on progress of your project people will have different opinions, different advice and heaps of questions. Plus a sh1tload of support. Look at Brad - most of us think he's a complete nutter and wouldn't consider doing what he is (or spending what he must be spending) for more than a nano-second. But it's his car, he knows what he wants and he's getting on with it - and we're all behind him. About 10 feet behind him, but behind him nonetheless...

 

[Steve_R1979]

I've not been on here very long, but every other post I see of JE is telling us how rich he is and how much money he spent on his car.

WHY???????

Do people on here care or are they impressed when he throws these over inflated numbers about???

If they are then I'm on the wrong forum.

 

[andysat]

I've not been on here very long, but every other post I see of JE is telling us how rich he is and how much money he spent on his car.

WHY???????

Do people on here care or are they impressed when he throws these over inflated numbers about???

If they are then I'm on the wrong forum.

You are not on the wrong forum!

 

[ESP]

supercharge it.

The 4 pot block wont take the forced induction will it?

The 2.0 will with lower compression mods
The 3.2 won't as standard either with out the same crompression mods.
I did write this previously

You can turbo a motorbike engine but crompression is different with forced induction.

 

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[StevenH72]

If you go with the S54 JE, it could be worth investing in a full engine rebuild, try to get the engine back to as-new (or as close as you can get) condition.

If money is no option also, it would be worth investing in a CSL intake, new steering rack, exhaust system and you'll need sport seats. With the extra power you wouldn't want to be slipping around in the SE seats.

I'd also ditch the cheap rep wheels and get some OEM rims, save a bit of weight and really squeeze the performance out.