2008 3.0 Si for sale - Cat D

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Timmay Zoom Zoom

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 Hampshire
See my Z4 3.0Si roadster for sale. just over 72k and selling for £7500. Its in the magic Phoenix Gold colour scheme, which I love! Am based in Basingstoke and having to clear a few toys.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/z4-roadster/bmw-z4-3-0-si-sport-roadster-2008/5955490?v=c
 
Striking looking car with the black wheels and a fair price on the face of it :thumbsup:

It might be worth detailing the actual service history (when and dealer/indi etc) and grabbing some more enticing shots, particularly of the interior which is looking a bit 'lived in' with the clutter and the sharp images showing the dust and dirt quite nicely on the dash, floor and seats etc.
 
As above some service details & drop the shots that highlight poor prep
Now the upside :) PY is just a WoW colour & combined with some black bits is simply stunning :evil: I love it :)
Pricewise I really can't believe some of the motors that have come up this summer , a 08 3.0Si on 72k for £7500 :?
I would buy that this weekend if I didn't already have one

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Lovely looking car OP - shame you are having to sell it! :(

Colour is really striking too (unlike so many of the E85/86 alternatives).

From your photos it looks like you have PDC and cup-holders which were both options so might be worth mentioning in your advert.

Just a thought, but the sun is shining so at least one photo with the roof down may help persuade someone!

Good luck anyway! :thumbsup:
 
Thanks for the pointers guys. I have changed the ad. Yes it is a great colour scheme and a great car. Went for a great drive last night, sport mode on roof down and was really nice, made me not want to sell, but wife is winning that battle! Fingers crossed somebody will get some great enjoyment out of it, ideally in the next few weeks of this great weather!
 
Can you confirm that this car is not a Category D registered vehicle?

My understanding is that it is and from it's previous MOT fail and advisory in 2015 showing the 'front O/S chassis is slightly distorted' and extensive list of items that would indicate a crash and rebuild, it doesn't seem to be a fully open and honest advert.


Vehicle make: BMW
Vehicle model: Z4
Date first used: 10 January 2008
Fuel type: Petrol
Colour: Yellow


MOT history of this vehicle

Test date: 25 July 2016
Expiry date: 24 July 2017
Test Result: Pass
Odometer reading: 72,505 miles
MOT test number: 7524 7720 0369
Advisory notice item(s):


n/s/r jacking point rubber missing
play in both front lower ball joints
o/s/f tyre wearing low on inner edge and age cracking
o/s/f tyre has side wall splitting
n/s/r tyre low on inner edge and has cuts
Both front wheels changed from original test

Test date: 20 July 2016
Test Result: Fail
Odometer reading: 72,500 miles
MOT test number: 7639 5131 4373
Reason(s) for failure:


Bonnet retaining device ineffective missing (8.4.2)
Horn not working (1.6.2a)
nearside Headlamp aim too high (1.8
nearside front Tyre has ply or cords exposed cut (4.1.D.1b)

Advisory notice item(s):
n/s/r jacking point rubber missing
play in both front lower ball joints
o/s/f tyre wearing low on inner edge and age cracking
o/s/f tyre has side wall splitting
n/s/r tyre low on inner edge and has cuts

Test date: 23 July 2015
Expiry date: 22 July 2016
Test Result: Pass
Odometer reading: 67,990 miles
MOT test number: 1651 7480 5294
Advisory notice item(s):


Offside front chassis slightly distorted

Test date: 22 July 2015
Test Result: Fail
Odometer reading: 67,975 miles
MOT test number: 4871 6390 5267
Reason(s) for failure:


Offside Registration plate lamp not working (1.1.C.1d)
Nearside Headlamp aim too low and too far to the left. (1.8
Offside Headlamp aim too low (1.8
Nearside Headlamp insecure (1.7.3)
Offside Headlamp insecure (1.7.3)
Nearside Steering rack gaiter split (2.2.D.2d)
Offside Rear Lower Suspension arm severely distorted (2.4.G.1)

Advisory notice item(s):
Offside front chassis slightly distorted
 
Oooooo naughty , very naughty :cry: it is indeed CJ :wink: http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82285&p=1215605#p1215605
 
Hi all, yes the car was a classed as a CAT D previously, and has been repaired. For me it does not deflect from the cars performance or looks. Yes it does have a slight niggle in its history and I brought it knowing about that as it drove fine. Looking at what a CAT D is, its boarder line write off depending on how the repairs are valued, car is still safe to be repaired and put back on the road. 18 months on (CAT D happened with previous owners and I brought the car in the repaired state) and no issues that concern me as a result. The notes in the MOT were mainly to do with tyres. I have two sets of wheels and tyres, maybe both would merit tyre replacement (I do very few miles a year) but are legal and handle the road fine, hence why the car passed as safe (the MOT centre does like to sell you a tyre when they can) Headlight was very minorly out, 1 min Allen key adjustment sorted that. The horn was a connector that had come away, I pushed it back on and whalla. Interesting they didn't notice the jacking point or the ball joints in the full MOT only noticed in the retest (it passed on the restest...) but again both as a pass so just advisory. Bonnet retainer was missing, surprising how many are when I asked on this forum. New BMW parts ordered and fitted myself. (not hard, 4 bolts)

I welcome any view of the car for discussion on condition and the history I have, for any people interested in buying. I wish I had more time on my hands to investigate things as fully as other people....... for me life's too short, buy what you like, drive what you like and have fun........ its a safe car, and you save a fair few hundred £ over an immaculate one of the same age/use.........

Thinking of keeping it as I enjoy it far too much and like the way it looks, you don't see many with this colour combo. Many others seem quite bland in my opinion.

ADMIN: Feel free to remove the forum advert post if you feel it is sufficiently dishonest. This was not my intention. The advert seeks to get interest in the car for sale, I intend to fully advise any buyer of the knowledge I have on the car during any discussions for purchase.
 
Timmay Zoom Zoom said:
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ADMIN: Feel free to remove the forum advert post if you feel it is sufficiently dishonest. This was not my intention. The advert seeks to get interest in the car for sale, I intend to fully advise any buyer of the knowledge I have on the car during any discussions for purchase.
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So you have disclosed Cat D to everyone who has rang you?
 
And you didn't think mentioning the fact the car had been written off was worth putting in the ad? :?
 
Frankly I don't care how you want to try to explain away things. The car is a Category D 'not a slight niggle in its history' that by your own words in a previous post was poorly repaired. The chassis is distorted and remains so.

As a Cat D it's worth significantly less than a 'clean' car, usually considered 1/3 less. You'll have paid much less and hence should declare it so potential buyers can make a fair judgement and not forget it.

If you don't agree then don't advertise it on an enthusiasts forum. Meantime please amend you advert to reflect the facts.

I'm sure you'll love and enjoy it, but you need to be open and honest in what you're selling and the way you advertise it, both here and on public sites.
 
Not the first time we've had a seller on here trying to palm off a written off car as an honest example, there sure are some dishonest, deceitful people around :x
Rob
 
Like it or not, even a 'good' Cat D car is a pain in the arse to shift and worth significantly less. I'd suggest amending the pistonheads advert as any potential buyers would not be best pleased only finding this out when viewing the car.
 
Smartbear said:
Not the first time we've had a seller on here trying to palm off a written off car as an honest example, there sure are some dishonest, deceitful people around :x
Rob
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Its gone over your head at some point mr bear , "life's too short ,so have fun , it's a safe car & you save a fair few hundred " :D
i'm surprised it hasn't sold already with that pitch :oops:
Shifty :wink: no other word for it OP , , you should have levelled from the off
Glwts
 
Fancy advertising and withholding that type of info on a forum, where everyone will check the posting history of the OP ... :roll:
 
Patrick Bateman said:
Like it or not, even a 'good' Cat D car is a pain in the arse to shift and worth significantly less. I'd suggest amending the pistonheads advert as any potential buyers would not be best pleased only finding this out when viewing the car.
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Sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about. A Cat D car can have sustained VERY minor damage and been written off, it's all about the cost of repairs, ie expensive parts, and main dealer labour rates.

How many vehicles have sustained even worse damage, but as the owners decided not to claim on their insurance, they got a "cheap" repair, and the car was never recorded as an insurance loss.

Having worked in the industry, I've seen 6 month old Fiestas, with less than 4,000 miles on them written off after a low speed collision requiring a wing, bonnet headlamp and radiator to repair with ZERO structural damage. Insurance write offs are about the money, not the damage. Once car hire, loss of use etc are factored in, it's usually more cost effective for an insurer to write the car off, pay out, and then recover 85% of the value form a specialised breaker, who in turn can realise 200% of the pre-accident condition from the parts alone..

I have bought and repaired many cat D's over the years, always disclosing their history along with pics showing the pre-repair condition of the vehicles. I usually achieve the market average for these vehicles, if not more as they are always well described and presented.

Would you rather buy a vehicle knowing it had been involved in a minor collision and properly repaired, or one that had been damaged and repaired "on the cheap" but was not recorded.... As far as I am concerned, a minor damage incident resulting in a cat D is something that forms another part of a vehicles's history, at least you know about it when you buy it...

That said, I BLOODY love that colour!

Mike
 
Shifty sellers have been exposed on here before and they have no place pitching on an enthusiast forum :thumbsdown:

GLWTS
 
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