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Imola red Z4M Roadster 51K miles
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wilson14 said:
You can chip away at the ask in £150 drops for the next 3 months but if you really want it gone then cut to the chase would be my best advice .
Its clearly a lovely car , miles are good but its now 2 months listed & no buyer which should tell you all you need to know
Many ZMRs have been sold swiftly over the summer but the days are now shortening fast , the CV19 doom & gloom is worsening & as much as this may sting id seriously consider listing at £14750 here & Ebay with £13500-£14500 actually achievable , fastforward 3 months you may well struggle to see £12500 , jmo of course , i could be way off the mark
mr wilks said:wilson14 said:
You can chip away at the ask in £150 drops for the next 3 months but if you really want it gone then cut to the chase would be my best advice .
Its clearly a lovely car , miles are good but its now 2 months listed & no buyer which should tell you all you need to know
Many ZMRs have been sold swiftly over the summer but the days are now shortening fast , the CV19 doom & gloom is worsening & as much as this may sting id seriously consider listing at £14750 here & Ebay with £13500-£14500 actually achievable , fastforward 3 months you may well struggle to see £12500 , jmo of course , i could be way off the mark
Well-meaning though you are, wouldn’t your advice be better sent to the OP in a private message, rather than putting doubt into the mind of a potential purchaser?
BMWZ4MC said:mr wilks said:wilson14 said:
You can chip away at the ask in £150 drops for the next 3 months but if you really want it gone then cut to the chase would be my best advice .
Its clearly a lovely car , miles are good but its now 2 months listed & no buyer which should tell you all you need to know
Many ZMRs have been sold swiftly over the summer but the days are now shortening fast , the CV19 doom & gloom is worsening & as much as this may sting id seriously consider listing at £14750 here & Ebay with £13500-£14500 actually achievable , fastforward 3 months you may well struggle to see £12500 , jmo of course , i could be way off the mark
Well-meaning though you are, wouldn’t your advice be better sent to the OP in a private message, rather than putting doubt into the mind of a potential purchaser?
I see your point but i don't see any comments made on a forum will alter a cars potential demand or current worth :? if it was worth more it would have sold already wouldn't it ?
I would also concentrate my effort with the sale elsewhere , contrary to some beliefs the forum is only a very small window for potential buyers , Ebay is always my first base when it comes to selling a car & i've yet to need a repeat advert on any car i've listed there with 90% of them gone within 2 weeks.
That said if the OP wants any comments posted removed id be happy to
mr wilks said:BMWZ4MC said:mr wilks said:You can chip away at the ask in £150 drops for the next 3 months but if you really want it gone then cut to the chase would be my best advice .
Its clearly a lovely car , miles are good but its now 2 months listed & no buyer which should tell you all you need to know
Many ZMRs have been sold swiftly over the summer but the days are now shortening fast , the CV19 doom & gloom is worsening & as much as this may sting id seriously consider listing at £14750 here & Ebay with £13500-£14500 actually achievable , fastforward 3 months you may well struggle to see £12500 , jmo of course , i could be way off the mark
Well-meaning though you are, wouldn’t your advice be better sent to the OP in a private message, rather than putting doubt into the mind of a potential purchaser?
I see your point but i don't see any comments made on a forum will alter a cars potential demand or current worth :? if it was worth more it would have sold already wouldn't it ?
I would also concentrate my effort with the sale elsewhere , contrary to some beliefs the forum is only a very small window for potential buyers , Ebay is always my first base when it comes to selling a car & i've yet to need a repeat advert on any car i've listed there with 90% of them gone within 2 weeks.
That said if the OP wants any comments posted removed id be happy to
Carry on Mr Wilks - this forum should benefit majority and he educational.
If you want to get a 'high' price with no commentary there's other places.. This has been on AT for weeks too.
Brave person hanging out with winter and C19 coming fast again.
wilson14 said:
That is a great looking car, I love them in red and nearly pulled the trigger on one last year.
Assume the black bit on the lower front bumper is a wrap?
Yes I'm a fan too - really suits some cars breaking up the front just a bit.
It's definitely a unique forum (or at least some of the members are) as I don't often see such "interest" in other forums where members feel the need to "advise" others on their sales strategy
By all means, advise, discuss or even criticise on actually playing with the cars but leave other's business alone.
It's usually the same people piping up time and time again. They buy a car on here and "quietly" sell it elsewhere making a few grand profit and stripping off the nice parts. That's perfectly fine but how would they feel if their selling strategies were commented on? Do we all tell them how to sell and at what price? No....
The guy is selling his car. Is he an adult, can he make his own decisions? Probably that's a yes. If he gets his pricing right or wrong so what? Let him find out through his experience. Maybe the speed of sale isn't so important to him
If you're not interested in buying stop casting doubt in potential buyers minds with continual comments. It's not fair to the seller... Leave him to find his way. Would those that question pricing like the same when they sell?
Of course there is the mutual backpatting brigade to consider... The one's whose mates say what they're selling is well priced, a bargain, glws etc
Anyway, just respect that it's not your car to "sell" on their behalf at a suggested discount of your choice....
By all means, advise, discuss or even criticise on actually playing with the cars but leave other's business alone.
It's usually the same people piping up time and time again. They buy a car on here and "quietly" sell it elsewhere making a few grand profit and stripping off the nice parts. That's perfectly fine but how would they feel if their selling strategies were commented on? Do we all tell them how to sell and at what price? No....
The guy is selling his car. Is he an adult, can he make his own decisions? Probably that's a yes. If he gets his pricing right or wrong so what? Let him find out through his experience. Maybe the speed of sale isn't so important to him
If you're not interested in buying stop casting doubt in potential buyers minds with continual comments. It's not fair to the seller... Leave him to find his way. Would those that question pricing like the same when they sell?
Of course there is the mutual backpatting brigade to consider... The one's whose mates say what they're selling is well priced, a bargain, glws etc
Anyway, just respect that it's not your car to "sell" on their behalf at a suggested discount of your choice....
Hagasan said:It's definitely a unique forum (or at least some of the members are) as I don't often see such "interest" in other forums where members feel the need to "advise" others on their sales strategy
By all means, advise, discuss or even criticise on actually playing with the cars but leave other's business alone.
It's usually the same people piping up time and time again. They buy a car on here and "quietly" sell it elsewhere making a few grand profit and stripping off the nice parts. That's perfectly fine but how would they feel if their selling strategies were commented on? Do we all tell them how to sell and at what price? No....
The guy is selling his car. Is he an adult, can he make his own decisions? Probably that's a yes. If he gets his pricing right or wrong so what? Let him find out through his experience. Maybe the speed of sale isn't so important to him
If you're not interested in buying stop casting doubt in potential buyers minds with continual comments. It's not fair to the seller... Leave him to find his way. Would those that question pricing like the same when they sell?
Of course there is the mutual backpatting brigade to consider... The one's whose mates say what they're selling is well priced, a bargain, glws etc
Anyway, just respect that it's not your car to "sell" on their behalf at a suggested discount of your choice....
Thank you Hagasan, I appreciate the comment
wilson14 said:Hagasan said:It's definitely a unique forum (or at least some of the members are) as I don't often see such "interest" in other forums where members feel the need to "advise" others on their sales strategy
By all means, advise, discuss or even criticise on actually playing with the cars but leave other's business alone.
It's usually the same people piping up time and time again. They buy a car on here and "quietly" sell it elsewhere making a few grand profit and stripping off the nice parts. That's perfectly fine but how would they feel if their selling strategies were commented on? Do we all tell them how to sell and at what price? No....
The guy is selling his car. Is he an adult, can he make his own decisions? Probably that's a yes. If he gets his pricing right or wrong so what? Let him find out through his experience. Maybe the speed of sale isn't so important to him
If you're not interested in buying stop casting doubt in potential buyers minds with continual comments. It's not fair to the seller... Leave him to find his way. Would those that question pricing like the same when they sell?
Of course there is the mutual backpatting brigade to consider... The one's whose mates say what they're selling is well priced, a bargain, glws etc
Anyway, just respect that it's not your car to "sell" on their behalf at a suggested discount of your choice....
Thank you Hagasan, I appreciate the comment
Well meaning you may think but i suspect more intended to offload my way some rather sour grapes he's been sucking on for quite some time :wink:
Briefly Mr H has a big issue with anyone on the forum who doesn't follow the rules by discussing all potential purchases openly rather than PM ( though he seems to overlook the other rules that allow free comments on any sale posts good or bad )
Anyhow back to the grapes , last year he narrowly missed out on purchasing a grey ZMC that a friend of mine bought which was bad enough ( though i think he was getting over it :roll: ) only for me to buy a set of power folding mirrors earlier this year that he thought were heading his way though it later transpired he had withdrawn his offer prior to my agreement :wink: well let's just say there wasn't a lot of toys left in Mr H's pram that day
skip to pg 3/4 for the good bit https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=90128&start=45
Hagasan said:It's definitely a unique forum (or at least some of the members are) as I don't often see such "interest" in other forums where members feel the need to "advise" others on their sales strategy
By all means, advise, discuss or even criticise on actually playing with the cars but leave other's business alone.
It's usually the same people piping up time and time again. They buy a car on here and "quietly" sell it elsewhere making a few grand profit and stripping off the nice parts. That's perfectly fine but how would they feel if their selling strategies were commented on? Do we all tell them how to sell and at what price? No....
The guy is selling his car. Is he an adult, can he make his own decisions? Probably that's a yes. If he gets his pricing right or wrong so what? Let him find out through his experience. Maybe the speed of sale isn't so important to him
If you're not interested in buying stop casting doubt in potential buyers minds with continual comments. It's not fair to the seller... Leave him to find his way. Would those that question pricing like the same when they sell?
Of course there is the mutual backpatting brigade to consider... The one's whose mates say what they're selling is well priced, a bargain, glws etc
Anyway, just respect that it's not your car to "sell" on their behalf at a suggested discount of your choice....
Those grapes aren't getting any sweeter with age are they
mr wilks said:wilson14 said:Hagasan said:It's definitely a unique forum (or at least some of the members are) as I don't often see such "interest" in other forums where members feel the need to "advise" others on their sales strategy
By all means, advise, discuss or even criticise on actually playing with the cars but leave other's business alone.
It's usually the same people piping up time and time again. They buy a car on here and "quietly" sell it elsewhere making a few grand profit and stripping off the nice parts. That's perfectly fine but how would they feel if their selling strategies were commented on? Do we all tell them how to sell and at what price? No....
The guy is selling his car. Is he an adult, can he make his own decisions? Probably that's a yes. If he gets his pricing right or wrong so what? Let him find out through his experience. Maybe the speed of sale isn't so important to him
If you're not interested in buying stop casting doubt in potential buyers minds with continual comments. It's not fair to the seller... Leave him to find his way. Would those that question pricing like the same when they sell?
Of course there is the mutual backpatting brigade to consider... The one's whose mates say what they're selling is well priced, a bargain, glws etc
Anyway, just respect that it's not your car to "sell" on their behalf at a suggested discount of your choice....
Thank you Hagasan, I appreciate the comment
Well meaning you may think but i suspect more intended to offload my way some rather sour grapes he's been sucking on for quite some time :wink:
Briefly Mr H has a big issue with anyone on the forum who doesn't follow the rules by discussing all potential purchases openly rather than PM ( though he seems to overlook the other rules that allow free comments on any sale posts good or bad )
Anyhow back to the grapes , last year he narrowly missed out on purchasing a grey ZMC that a friend of mine bought which was bad enough ( though i think he was getting over it :roll: ) only for me to buy a set of power folding mirrors earlier this year that he thought were heading his way though it later transpired he had withdrawn his offer prior to my agreement :wink: well let's just say there wasn't a lot of toys left in Mr H's pram that day
https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=90128&start=45
If you think I care about anything you say you clearly have delusions of grandeur. It's your self-appointed entitlement to comment on others post where their finances are involved, not yours. Just wind your bloody neck in. Of course you usually sign your scribbles off with a "happy to remove if the OP wants" probably knowing that what you've said may well be unwanted interference, Yes it may be a open forum but that doesn't mean you have to sabotage someone's sales thread just to demonstrate your oracle "status"
I'm pretty sure my words were vindicated on reading the reply from the op. I think that says it all really....
Im really not that excited about owning or not buying any particular Z4. I sleep quite well at night having not bought the MC that Darren bought last year... If I wanted, I could but this one or any other tomorrow so really, I couldn't give a toss. No dis-respect to the car or other owners but I'm quite happy with my collection at present....
And apologies to the OP for another post on his thread... Like what happened with a guy selling a couple of months ago, it was the same old story of comments telling him what he should do, what he should charge, how his car wasn't worth £x... with the mods etc. He was really pissed off. Those that do should stop thinking their longer term membership of the forum gives them the right to scupper others sales threads. It's none of your business so a bit of consideration, respect and discretion may serve you well.
Hagasan said:
Ok , i did think it was sour grapes but clearly it goes deeper , you are now coming across as a pompous bigot that has taken it upon himself to step into the unfilled roll Marlon recently left , well guess what , nothing you say will alter how i choose which threads to comment on & how . In this instant if you take the care to actually read through properly & digest the context the seller clearly says this is the first time he has sold a car privately , nothing i have written is said with any other intention than assisting the guy get a sale which unless you are thick as mince is the whole intention of the thread .
Now as for the supposed reasoning to your vitriol , lets scroll through the last 30 cars for sale on this forum , including this one i've commented on 3 others which are here for anyone reading your bilge above to see that you clearly have a issue with me personally , no probs , i couldn't give two tosses about you or your twisted viewpoint .
https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=124499
https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=124395
https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=124673
Truth said:
It's not boring sour grapes at all. The comments given by others telling sellers that they should drop prices or look at others cars that have sold have no direct effect on me. What they do have however is an effect on others attempts to sell. Especially when they suggest something is overpriced. Let sellers mind their own business. PM them if you feel the need to advise...
It's just a few fancy themselves as little traders so think they can say what they want. As I said already, they say their piece then try to cover themselves with a happy to remove if the OP wants comments. All that suggests is they know what they say may well be unwanted.. That being the case then why post publicly in the first place?
All I'm saying is try to respect and leave others financial dealings between them and any potential buyer. If a buyer asks questions then commenting then may be more appropriate...
Is that too difficult for people to understand and respect?
As I also said, the seller here appreciated my initial comments on the matter so he probably feels a bit aggrieved. Just because it's an open forum doesn't mean people need to be butting in to everything... Especially when they have no direct involvement.
In addition, I've personally spoken to quite a few on here who have the same view about these type of posts. They just haven't said so publicly. I'm saying so, not to specifically have a go at people as such, more to just get them to consider the impact of their actions delving into things they probably wouldn't do (I would hope) outside this environment.