z4M to E93 m3
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I like the idea of the E93 but its heavy and not that involving to drive and rolls a lot more than the Z4M.
The manual versions weigh 1,810 kg (3,990 lb) so almost 2 tonnes. Because of the weight it doent feel quick and on twisty roads isn't fun to drive at all in comparison to a Z4M. Roughly 5.3-60 and then considering they get 15-22mpg... The coupe my dad had averaged 18mpg over 20k and the coupe is nearly 250kg lighter.
I test drove one earlier in the year because they are good value and then realised why. As a GT its ok as, a Z4 replacement :thumbsdown:
Sounds fantastic with the roof down, the induction growl is great then the V8 thump from the exhaust is intoxicating.
It depends what you want it for, if its a nice daily and crunching motorway miles then they are nice but as a weekender I would give it a miss.
The manual versions weigh 1,810 kg (3,990 lb) so almost 2 tonnes. Because of the weight it doent feel quick and on twisty roads isn't fun to drive at all in comparison to a Z4M. Roughly 5.3-60 and then considering they get 15-22mpg... The coupe my dad had averaged 18mpg over 20k and the coupe is nearly 250kg lighter.
I test drove one earlier in the year because they are good value and then realised why. As a GT its ok as, a Z4 replacement :thumbsdown:
Sounds fantastic with the roof down, the induction growl is great then the V8 thump from the exhaust is intoxicating.
It depends what you want it for, if its a nice daily and crunching motorway miles then they are nice but as a weekender I would give it a miss.
I went Z4MR(weekend car) to a E92 M3(daily) and that didn't work for me. The M3 just felt like a 320d to me for most of the time...only a 320d that does 18 mpg!! :lol: I didn't think that the engines characteristics really suited daily driving with all of the performance being right at the top of the revs.
However my brother in law has a E93 M3 as a weekend car and he loves it, and he's had it 8 years this year. The V8 sounds awesome from the exhaust in the convertible...whereas you can't hear the exhaust at all in the Coupe. I didn't really notice the extra weight when I've drove the Convertible because the Coupe is already a heavy car. So I'd be happy personally with the extra weight to enjoy the extra noise benefit from the Convertible. 8)
However my brother in law has a E93 M3 as a weekend car and he loves it, and he's had it 8 years this year. The V8 sounds awesome from the exhaust in the convertible...whereas you can't hear the exhaust at all in the Coupe. I didn't really notice the extra weight when I've drove the Convertible because the Coupe is already a heavy car. So I'd be happy personally with the extra weight to enjoy the extra noise benefit from the Convertible. 8)
I will admit that I didn't know/have a clue how unreliable the engine can be when I had mine back in 2013(I only did 10k miles in mine and it was a low mileage car). In saying that my brother in law hasn't had any issues with his in 8 years of ownership(he doesn't do many miles though in fairness).ph001 said:
E86 Z4M Coupe 1466kg
E92 M3 Coupe 1580kg
TBH compared the the Z4 the M3 feels a big car anyway, not just its weight its not that heavy for a 3/5 door saloon. I wouldn't call the M3 a sport car personally its a fast family/saloon car. To me it just didn't engage the same and as above does feel like a normal 3 series in many respects and the torque down low is very noticeable as a daily because there really isn't much.
Im sure most people are used to turbo petrol or diesels as dailys and its not much fun to commute in as it doesn't really come alive until 4500rpm and if you want to run for that red line it will do over near enough 70 in second near that red line.
Fabulous car in theory but a bit disappointing in reality.
The F80 gen fixes all the above issues, stupid fast in every gear but it sounds awful imo. Every time I hear one set off from a set of lights makes me cringe. Like a lawn mower but worce.
S54 all day long for me.
E92 M3 Coupe 1580kg
TBH compared the the Z4 the M3 feels a big car anyway, not just its weight its not that heavy for a 3/5 door saloon. I wouldn't call the M3 a sport car personally its a fast family/saloon car. To me it just didn't engage the same and as above does feel like a normal 3 series in many respects and the torque down low is very noticeable as a daily because there really isn't much.
Im sure most people are used to turbo petrol or diesels as dailys and its not much fun to commute in as it doesn't really come alive until 4500rpm and if you want to run for that red line it will do over near enough 70 in second near that red line.
Fabulous car in theory but a bit disappointing in reality.
The F80 gen fixes all the above issues, stupid fast in every gear but it sounds awful imo. Every time I hear one set off from a set of lights makes me cringe. Like a lawn mower but worce.
S54 all day long for me.
PinkPineapple44
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Z4M-2006 said:
That is just not true regarding power or handling (bar the e93 which is definitely a floppier and weightier version) and completely your opinion based on internet scaremongering for engine's breaking if you give it the beans.
As someone who actually owns one (E92), it's the best car I've owned and closely followed by my B7 RS4. Yes it's not got the instant torque of the modern turbo petrols but still plenty of shove for daily driving and then an unbeatable experience when you wind it up into the 8000 rpm range. We're not talking vtec torque levels here :lol:
I'd say go for an e92 all day as they are a better overall package than the vert (unless you don't mind the extra weight) and enjoy the best V8 beemer ever made
Yea
Perhaps I’m a bit cynical, we look after 3 x E93 M3’s and they have all cost the owners plenty of cash .
Throttle bodies and injectors seem to be this year’s favourite faults so far.
Personally for the same money I would much prefer a C63 , or an RS4...
Still
Doesn’t stop me thinking the E9x M3 is the worst M3 Bmw have ever built
Perhaps I’m a bit cynical, we look after 3 x E93 M3’s and they have all cost the owners plenty of cash .
Throttle bodies and injectors seem to be this year’s favourite faults so far.
Personally for the same money I would much prefer a C63 , or an RS4...
Still
Doesn’t stop me thinking the E9x M3 is the worst M3 Bmw have ever built
PinkPineapple44
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Z4M-2006 said:
Ah I see, do you work for a main dealer or independent garage? Those stupid plastic gears in the throttle bodies are undoubtedly the main weakness of the S65, why bmw why
I almost bought an M4 comp manual before the E92 but I just didn't gel and couldn't get past that sound...so I might be tempted to say that is my least favourite of the 'M3s'. Never been in/driven an E30 m3 though.
PinkPineapple44
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afennell said:
I think it depends what you're used to and what you're after. It's a perfectly good car and does the job nicely, but if driven back to back with an E92 M3 you'll immediately notice the difference in handling and to some extent acceleration.
If you're after just cruising about in style with a sweet V8 under your right foot, E93 will suit you well. If you like to push on every now and then or take it to the track or just want the best overall X9 M3, E92 is the pick of the bunch imo.
PinkPineapple44
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bmwaddict said:
Haha I can't argue with that, they're amazing. I daily my B7 RS4 saloon through the winter, never let me down yet
Got any pics?
If your coming from a Z4M which was made as a roadster from the beginning it will be a very different experience.
Everyones different, from an interior and tech position the M3 will be a nice update.
Test drive one and see what you think you will soon decide. Just make sure you put it through some twisties not just a pootle around.
Everyones different, from an interior and tech position the M3 will be a nice update.
Test drive one and see what you think you will soon decide. Just make sure you put it through some twisties not just a pootle around.