Z4M or 35is ?

Your gonna have to make this decision yourself..

Drive them and see what you think...

Considering they are probably similar money now for an M coupe and a 35is then the decision is even harder.

If the suspension was good on the E86 i would probably tip that way,but it is shockingly bad and its major flaw.

With the E89 you can just get in a blast away and be fast relatively quickly.
 
I bought my 35is 6 months ago and in the past have owned an M5, M3 Convertible, X5 4.4 Sport and just bought my 21yr old son an M2.

I live in Blackpool and bought my e89 Z4 35is from Swansea after looking for a decent one for 4 months. I bought and paid for the car without even seeing it and fortunately it paid off in my favour. I prefer having the top down and i own Waminda but both cars will give you a lot of enjoyment and if you want fast............I mean FAST FAST FAST........... get the is!

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I didn't even consider the IS before I joined this forum, now it is the preferred option for me I feel. I saw a couple of US reviews mainly for the IS this evening ( yes I know,...say no more) but it comes across as being quite competent on the handling front. Finally, I also want a car that I will want to drive and not leave in the garage due to being concerned with it not going over 70,000 miles and nose diving in value :driving: .
 
Mavster said:
I didn't even consider the IS before I joined this forum, now it is the preferred option for me I feel. I saw a couple of US reviews mainly for the IS this evening ( yes I know,...say no more) but it comes across as being quite competent on the handling front. Finally, I also want a car that I will want to drive and not leave in the garage due to being concerned with it not going over 70,000 miles and nose diving in value :driving: .
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What cat do you know that nose dives in value after 70k. :?
 
If you can enjoy driving a Audi you can get on with a 35Is no bother :) it won't make you tingle like a S54 does but the 89s look great , feel great in the cabin & even without adaptive ride the twin turbo's are competent & quick when needed
 
...horsepower does not a fun car make.

i guess ill prefix this again: test both, theyre very different and suit different requirements.

that said, id liken the 35is to modern bmw M cars (albeit not an M), and the z4m represents M cars of old. the former being sharp, smooth, rapid, a small GT. The latter is raw, unrefined, revvy and certainly a sports car.
 
I've had a Z4M Roadster and 2 Z4 35iS's .... currently in an M240i.

I grew to hate my Z4M quite quickly - it didn't go wrong but the gearchange was awful and the suspension / seats very competent but just too hard. I liked the noise but found it muted compared to the 35iS which in sport mode was lovely.

I would have another 35iS but needed a bit more space. The Z4M was a mistake - the lurching when cold was awful too.

The only thing about the 35iS that seems to pop up regularly is the roof sensors - I had 2 go. I had an earlier 35iS that was a nightmare (Friday afternoon car) but that didn't put me off the model ... just that car ! My second 35iS was lovely.

Get a 35iS and enjoy it :evil:
 
I went through this paralysis by analysis too for about 5 seconds and decided on the 35is. There really is no right and wrong answer and everyone is influenced by different inputs that are relevant to them.
Coming from a 10 year old E85 I wanted something a bit more modern, recent and comfortable. I considered the Z4M but they are all ten years plus old now. Some may scoff at such a concern; maybe a ten year old car is considered a "classic" to them. And good for them. But to to me it isn't, it's a minus as I prefer a more modern car. So, it's all very personal and subjective.
We all think differently.
 
I'm not sure what all this z4m is more fun than 35i or 35is is all about. The 35i/is is VERY fun to drive. I have had allot of BMW's and 3 super bikes and although my super bikes were very fun on and off the track they were also very stressful to ride on the road as you never know what could go wrong every time you twist that accelerator, be it loose gravel or a bit of oil/diesel on the road or some idiot SUV doing what SUV's love doing....being idiots.

The z4 35i for me is like a super bike with 4 wheels, all the fun and speed of a super bike but all the safety that a super bike lacks. It's Especially fun with a stage 2+ MHD map. It sounds amazing and with that adaptive suspension in sports mode it handles very well but the way it takes off with that beautiful spooling up turbo sound makes it a beautiful exciting driving experience. It's got a seriously good looking beautiful interior that is very comfortable with all the bells and whistles and the DCT box is just the cherry on top. What a machine is all I can say.
It also has the looks on the exterior, For me personally it is hands down the most beautiful car BMW has ever made. It was a dream car for me from the day it was released and I still find myself spending extra time in my garage just looking at it on a very regular basis. When ever I park it and walk away I always turn around to have a good look at it as it really is such a beautiful piece of art!

Go drive both cars, everyone has their own personal preference but I would be hard pressed to hear that you prefer the older model after sitting in the 35i/is
 
sachak said:
I'm not sure what all this z4m is more fun than 35i or 35is is all about. The 35i/is is VERY fun to drive. I have had allot of BMW's and 3 super bikes and although my super bikes were very fun on and off the track they were also very stressful to ride on the road as you never know what could go wrong every time you twist that accelerator, be it loose gravel or a bit of oil/diesel on the road or some idiot SUV doing what SUV's love doing....being idiots.

The z4 35i for me is like a super bike with 4 wheels, all the fun and speed of a super bike but all the safety that a super bike lacks. It's Especially fun with a stage 2+ MHD map. It sounds amazing and with that adaptive suspension in sports mode it handles very well but the way it takes off with that beautiful spooling up turbo sound makes it a beautiful exciting driving experience. It's got a seriously good looking beautiful interior that is very comfortable with all the bells and whistles and the DCT box is just the cherry on top. What a machine is all I can say.
It also has the looks on the exterior, For me personally it is hands down the most beautiful car BMW has ever made. It was a dream car for me from the day it was released and I still find myself spending extra time in my garage just looking at it on a very regular basis. When ever I park it and walk away I always turn around to have a good look at it as it really is such a beautiful piece of art!

Go drive both cars, everyone has their own personal preference but I would be hard pressed to hear that you prefer the older model after sitting in the 35i/is
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I agree with you. It all comes down to the purpose of the car. If you want a track car and are choosing between Z4M-35i/is I would say that the E86 is better to start with.

If you want a fast and nice GT/Cruiser. Go for the E89.

I have had 8 M cars and I would still say that the E89 is on off the better ones I've owend even though it's not a M.
 
Stop pedalling either model because its what you have - pedal the concept of 'try before you buy, then decide', i'm surprised the z4 forum gets so easily drawn in to a 35is vs M debate.
 
step_change said:
I went through this paralysis by analysis too for about 5 seconds and decided on the 35is. There really is no right and wrong answer and everyone is influenced by different inputs that are relevant to them.
Coming from a 10 year old E85 I wanted something a bit more modern, recent and comfortable. I considered the Z4M but they are all ten years plus old now. Some may scoff at such a concern; maybe a ten year old car is considered a "classic" to them. And good for them. But to to me it isn't, it's a minus as I prefer a more modern car. So, it's all very personal and subjective.
We all think differently.
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Pretty much somes up my move to the 35i from my much loved E85 3 year ago. :thumbsup:
 
jimmybell said:
Stop pedalling either model because its what you have - pedal the concept of 'try before you buy, then decide', i'm surprised the z4 forum gets so easily drawn in to a 35is vs M debate.
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Er, because this is a Z4 forum and we are all interested. That's why. No one is pedalling anything, we are sharing opinions. AKA discussing, on a Z4 discussion forum.
 
step_change said:
jimmybell said:
Stop pedalling either model because its what you have - pedal the concept of 'try before you buy, then decide', i'm surprised the z4 forum gets so easily drawn in to a 35is vs M debate.
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Er, because this is a Z4 forum and we are all interested. That's why. No one is pedalling anything, we are sharing opinions. AKA discussing, on a Z4 discussion forum.
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my bad, cant find any examples of ‘buy what i bought!’ advice in this thread.
 
jimmybell said:
Stop pedalling either model because its what you have - pedal the concept of 'try before you buy, then decide', i'm surprised the z4 forum gets so easily drawn in to a 35is vs M debate.
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As above - although they overlap in many ways, the best attributes of each car differs significantly from those of the other. Decide what you want from a car and test both.
I love my ///M but it’s the rawness that makes it so special. I’ve modified it to make it an absolutely stonking track car and that hugely compromises the ride on badly made roads, but I love it for and despite that. The manual gearbox demands of its driver and rewards in a way that DCT never will, but it doesn’t tolerate clumsiness or inattention. I’ve beaten GT3s on the track and almost killed myself on a wet road.... I’m glad my wife doesn’t want to drive it because I’d be terrified for her every time she did so.
On the other hand, I’d love a 35is (as well) as a seriously quick and comfortable modern open top tourer. I’d fit an LSD, have it remapped and release a little more noise, then drive everywhere with a big grin on my face. Most importantly I wouldn’t feel like it’s hiding behind a tree waiting to kill me the second I let my guard down!
 
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