Z4M or 35is ?

[ronk]

Re the 35is - Don’t worry about the noise !
It’s plenty loud enough - I only wish it had a stealth mode.
I would say that even if the car is driven well within its limits it’s well outside the limits the law would allow and my limits/ability tend to be lower than the cars capability!

 

[step_change]

The 35is is rocket powered, it is astonishing, coming from a 2.5 E85 (which itself was a great car). Sure the Clarkson's of this world and the motoring intelligentsia may knock it but for 99% of drivers on ordinary roads it goes like s**t off a shovel and corners like an housefly. All with reasonable running costs and it looks out of this world. What is there not to like?
Yeah, I like the Z4M too.
Horses for courses, one man's meat is another's poison and a million other cliches....!

 

[Nanu]

my bad, cant find any examples of ‘buy what i bought!’ advice in this thread.

I have a 35i. It’s great. Get one of those.

What he said

 

[Mad Professor]

If you want another super fast modern car with a folding roof then the E89 is where its at .
If you want to own a modern classic with the historic S54 power plant , to go for an occasional blat when its sunny and you may have both the time and the inclination ,which wont depreciate , and have a sense of occasion every time you take it out , and a rag top ,then its the E85 . Bottom line they are both fine cars so you really cant go wrong either way .
If you want the finest handling car ,which will make your fingers tingle and give you an inane grin for hours , sounds truly epic on full chat , and everyone will smile and wave at you [they wont do that with any Z ] , will make you feel happy , alive and vulnerable all at the same time , which is utterly impractical , will give you tinnitus on a long run ,then buy a Caterham .

 

[BMWZ4MC]

If you want another super fast modern car with a folding roof then the E89 is where its at .
If you want to own a modern classic with the historic S54 power plant , to go for an occasional blat when its sunny and you may have both the time and the inclination ,which wont depreciate , and have a sense of occasion every time you take it out , and a coupe ,then its the E86 . Bottom line they are both fine cars so you really cant go wrong either way .
If you want the finest handling car ,which will make your fingers tingle and give you an inane grin for hours , sounds truly epic on full chat , and everyone will smile and wave at you [they wont do that with any Z ] , will make you feel happy , alive and vulnerable all at the same time , which is utterly impractical , will give you tinnitus on a long run ,then buy a Westfield .

Professor, you stand corrected by a carpenter

 

[Mad Professor]

oops -caterham or westie are both excellent IMHO

 

[BMWZ4MC]

oops -caterham or westie are both excellent IMHO

 

[ronk]

I’m driving a Z4 because of Westfield!

I had a test drive in a Westie and on the way home full of enthusiasm for the forthcoming car, an old boy in a Nissan changed lanes without looking - he bashed into the side of us - after that my wife said “get one but I won’t ride in it”!
There wasn’t an argument I could make so down the Z4 route I went.

 

[BMWZ4MC]

I stopped using my Westfield on the road for fear of being stepped on by someone in an SUV. I do miss the country lane blats but it’s much less stressful going sideways on a track where there are no trees to hit!

 

[Mad Professor]

I stopped using my Westfield on the road for fear of being stepped on by someone in an SUV. I do miss the country lane blats but it’s much less stressful going sideways on a track where there are no trees to hit!

Same here -i started to feel vulnerable in my 7 -maybe im getting old

 

[ronk]

I stopped using my Westfield on the road for fear of being stepped on by someone in an SUV. I do miss the country lane blats but it’s much less stressful going sideways on a track where there are no trees to hit!

Same here -i started to feel vulnerable in my 7 -maybe im getting old

I never got to that stage!
Mrs K effectively put the block on purchase of a westfield!

 

[Smartbear]

I stopped using my Westfield on the road for fear of being stepped on by someone in an SUV. I do miss the country lane blats but it’s much less stressful going sideways on a track where there are no trees to hit!

Same here -i started to feel vulnerable in my 7 -maybe im getting old

I’ve started to feel the same about my motorbikes after getting side swiped recently
Rob

 

[BMWZ4MC]

At least it was just the tip of a paw and not the leg that was squashed Mr Bear. I hope it’s finally on the mend.
It would be a shame for this to herald the end of something you enjoy, but I see motorbikes like cigarettes...if you indulge, one way or another they’ll get you in the end. Of course my opinion is somewhat skewed by the number of days and nights I’ve spent reassembling unfortunate bikers.

 

[BMWZ4MC]

I stopped using my Westfield on the road for fear of being stepped on by someone in an SUV. I do miss the country lane blats but it’s much less stressful going sideways on a track where there are no trees to hit!

Same here -i started to feel vulnerable in my 7 -maybe im getting old

I was still young but the final push for my decision was writing off my first Westfield and almost myself with it.

 

[BMWZ4MC]

I stopped using my Westfield on the road for fear of being stepped on by someone in an SUV. I do miss the country lane blats but it’s much less stressful going sideways on a track where there are no trees to hit!

Same here -i started to feel vulnerable in my 7 -maybe im getting old

I never got to that stage!
Mrs K effectively put the block on purchase of a westfield!

Would she be so resistant to a Westfield as a track only car?

 

[ronk]

Of course my opinion is somewhat skewed by the number of days and nights I’ve spent reassembling unfortunate bikers.

Now that’s something a father could relay to a son who wants a motorbike or a daughter who has a boyfriend with a bike!

 

[BMWZ4MC]

Of course my opinion is somewhat skewed by the number of days and nights I’ve spent reassembling unfortunate bikers.

Now that’s something a father could relay to a son who wants a motorbike or a daughter who has a boyfriend with a bike!

Several of my friends are bikers, some of whom are trauma surgeons....

I’d like to add that I’ve never had to reassemble someone injured in or by a Z4...not even an ///M

 

[ronk]

Same here -i started to feel vulnerable in my 7 -maybe im getting old

I never got to that stage!
Mrs K effectively put the block on purchase of a westfield!

Would she be so resistant to a Westfield as a track only car?

I’m sure that would be allowed - however due to a C3/4 - 5/6 Problem some years ago, I would think getting out of a 7 or westie unaided would be impossible. When I bought the 35is late 2016 I was offered a BMW M track day (in their vehicles inc a single seater) but had to take a cash alternative because of the dodgy legs :thumbsdown:

I mostly away with the problem on a day to day basis but can’t articulate the upper leg past 90° to the torso without lifting them and getting out of a bath isn’t possible either !

So daily showers and sensible (ish) cars it has to be!

 

[BMWZ4MC]

I’d definitely stick to the Zed and keep your dignity then

 

[Mad Professor]

Still i have to admit to hankering after another 7 -nothing like it
I think going on the track is really the only safe environment to explore the limits of a 7 -or any car for that matter
Everyone driving in one direction and no scary suprises such as animals or tractors pulling out
-especially if you swerve the hot hatch days and go when like minded folk are respectful to each other and don't want to trash their cars
I made sure i got professional instruction before i took the 7 on a track
Despite that SWMBO was never comfortable with me going on the track
-especially when my wee boy told SWMBO in graphic detail about his experience as a pax
Mind you it's hard on car taking it on track -it uncovers any component weakness driving at the limit
I ended up going home on flat bed on two occasions that i can recall -once in my BDR and another time in my VXE