Z4M DONUTS! - Video - What you've all been tempted to do!

I enjoy doing doughnuts in mine, unfortunately I'm not as resposonisible as you. :evil: :evil:

Great fun hey :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
Yorkie Z said:
I enjoy doing doughnuts in mine, unfortunately I'm not as resposonisible as you. :evil: :evil:

Great fun hey :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Never said I'd not done it before ;) lol
Done it a few times in that yard but no full ones anywhere else, but yes, much fun!
 
Sim_Simma said:
Surprised there haven't been any negative/yobo comments yet! :rofl:
Give it time, they will come as sure as night follows day. BTW, I'm in the fun camp. :thumbsup:
 
BRC said:
Sim_Simma said:
Surprised there haven't been any negative/yobo comments yet! :rofl:
Give it time, they will come as sure as night follows day. BTW, I'm in the fun camp. :thumbsup:

:rofl: I'm glad you are, these cars were built to enjoy!

Darren, I was the same, that's why I didn't try it anywhere else before as nowhere seems safely big enough!
 
Sim_Simma said:
Surprised there haven't been any negative/yobo comments yet! :rofl:

it would be bad on a public road but on private land with permission then its just big smiles
 
Taz said:
Sim_Simma said:
Surprised there haven't been any negative/yobo comments yet! :rofl:

it would be bad on a public road but on private land with permission then its just big smiles
Exactly this ... Owner said go for it and it is your car so any yobbo comments would be wrong ! Bloody yob you are, those poor tyres ;-) haha. I have too much sympathy for my car, I don't know if I could ever bring myself to do it. But, that said that was a nice bit of driving, smooth exit too, I'd love to have a go in someone else's car!!
 
-Tom-, the cars are built for it so you owe it to the car to try it at some point in its life :rofl:
 
Taz said:
-Tom-, the cars are built for it so you owe it to the car to try it at some point in its life :rofl:
Hahaha, Taz can I blame you if a video goes viral of a silver grey coupe wrapping itself around a lamp post after knocking over a barn/office block/ tower block :-p
 
-Tom- said:
Taz said:
Sim_Simma said:
Surprised there haven't been any negative/yobo comments yet! :rofl:

it would be bad on a public road but on private land with permission then its just big smiles
Exactly this ... Owner said go for it and it is your car so any yobbo comments would be wrong ! Bloody yob you are, those poor tyres ;-) haha. I have too much sympathy for my car, I don't know if I could ever bring myself to do it. But, that said that was a nice bit of driving, smooth exit too, I'd love to have a go in someone else's car!!

Tbh if you think about it, doing donuts put less stress on most components than cornering at speed which I'm sure you do regularly on a hoon!

Thanks for noticing the exit I was hoping more people would pick up on that as I was quite pleased with it :lol:
 
Sim_Simma said:
-Tom- said:
Taz said:
it would be bad on a public road but on private land with permission then its just big smiles
Exactly this ... Owner said go for it and it is your car so any yobbo comments would be wrong ! Bloody yob you are, those poor tyres ;-) haha. I have too much sympathy for my car, I don't know if I could ever bring myself to do it. But, that said that was a nice bit of driving, smooth exit too, I'd love to have a go in someone else's car!!

Tbh if you think about it, doing donuts put less stress on most components than cornering at speed which I'm sure you do regularly on a hoon!

Thanks for noticing the exit I was hoping more people would pick up on that as I was quite pleased with it :lol:
Was there a split second of twitchy bun time just before you caught it ?? But yes smooth! Yes I know in reality what I do on a country lane stresses nearly everything more. Was it bouncing on the rev limiter to keep it out there?
 
Sim_Simma said:
horseofwar said:
Sim_Simma said:
The weight saving should definitely help in the corners, especially in regards to understeer!

+1 almost an extra 100kg on the front of 3.0. Bound to make a difference.
I had an 04 plate 2.5 before the M and the front end grip was superior. The understeer on the M is one of the only things that gets on my nerves. I would do something about it if I could afford it and believed I could achieve something close the my 2.5.
You can wipe out pretty much all the understeer on this car easily, you can get rid of a large chunk with 15 quids worth of camber shims, you just need a tweaked alignment and a touch more - neg camber .
 
Beedub said:
horseofwar said:
Sim_Simma said:
The weight saving should definitely help in the corners, especially in regards to understeer!

+1 almost an extra 100kg on the front of 3.0. Bound to make a difference.
I had an 04 plate 2.5 before the M and the front end grip was superior. The understeer on the M is one of the only things that gets on my nerves. I would do something about it if I could afford it and believed I could achieve something close the my 2.5.
You can wipe out pretty much all the understeer on this car easily, you can get rid of a large chunk with 15 quids worth of camber shims, you just need a tweaked alignment and a touch more - neg camber .[/quote]I will follow your advice blindly beedub, any links and alignment figures for me?
 
-Tom- said:
-Tom- said:
Ta[quote="Sim_Simma said:
Surprised there haven't been any negative/yobo comments yet! :rofl:

it would be bad on a public road but on private land with permission then its just big smiles
Exactly this ... Owner said go for it and it is your car so any yobbo comments would be wrong ! Bloody yob you are, those poor tyres ;-) haha. I have too much sympathy for my car, I don't know if I could ever bring myself to do it. But, that said that was a nice bit of driving, smooth exit too, I'd love to have a go in someone else's car!!

Tbh if you think about it, doing donuts put less stress on most components than cornering at speed which I'm sure you do regularly on a hoon!

Thanks for noticing the exit I was hoping more people would pick up on that as I was quite pleased with it :lol:[/quote]
Was there a split second of twitchy bun time just before you caught it ?? But yes smooth! Yes I know in reality what I do on a country lane stresses nearly everything more. Was it bouncing on the rev limiter to keep it out there?[/quote]
No not at all. The first time you do a donut, you will probably just release the throttle and come to a quick stop where you are. What I did there was during the donut, turn the steering to the opposite lock which brings you out of the donut in a slide the opposite way, and you can see I kept the throttle planted during that stage straightening the car just on the steering. Hard to explain but people who have tried it will be able to tell that was all intentional! Haha!
As for the rev limiter no it wasn't bouncing off it the whole time I wouldn't like to do that. Hit the limiter half way through the first one, backed off and might have hit it again briefly on the second one.
Also FYI the car was fully warmed up before hand which is the most important thing :)
 
-Tom-,

Just watched the vid again, if you watch wit the volume on, you can hear that I wasn't anywhere near the limiter on the second one, just for a second on the 1st one :)
 
Sim_Simma said:
-Tom-,

Just watched the vid again, if you watch wit the volume on, you can hear that I wasn't anywhere near the limiter on the second one, just for a second on the 1st one :)
Ah my phone speaker is pants. Right OK I thought you'd be having to wring its neck to keep it up. Cool, cheers.
 
sim.

cheap way to gain meaningful camber without the need for top mounts which can lead to added NVH. ( i run these as well as camber plates)



http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-424-front-camber-bolt-kit-e36-z3-z4-m-turner-motorsport.aspx


, combined with the stock scope for adjustment a decent -1.8ish is achievable, this combined with a tweaked alignment and some decent tyres will REALLY combat a decent amount of understeer that is naturally dialled in by bmw to keep the average joe safe, turn in will be improved also.


see.... cheap fix, and so easy to install yourself.

now get ordering, you can pick them up from CA automotive for around 20 quid.
 
Beedub said:
sim.

cheap way to gain meaningful camber without the need for top mounts which can lead to added NVH. ( i run these as well as camber plates)



http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-424-front-camber-bolt-kit-e36-z3-z4-m-turner-motorsport.aspx


, combined with the stock scope for adjustment a decent -1.8ish is achievable, this combined with a tweaked alignment and some decent tyres will REALLY combat a decent amount of understeer that is naturally dialled in by bmw to keep the average joe safe, turn in will be improved also.


see.... cheap fix, and so easy to install yourself.

now get ordering, you can pick them up from CA automotive for around 20 quid.

Excellent thank you mate. One question, how will the tyres fair in day to day driving with that much camber?
 
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