Z4.... One of the 10 worst designs !!!

I love the Z4 design. Everyone I know who sees the Zed says the same and loves it. Bewildered at how it can be in the top ten worst designs!
 
WTF?! :rofl:

I know a lot of car designers and they all agree that the Z4 (E85/6) is a great design and has aged incredibly well. In fact, 5 of them have Z4 coupes! I think that says it all!
 
beanie said:
WTF?! :rofl:

I know a lot of car designers and they all agree that the Z4 (E85/6) is a great design and has aged incredibly well. In fact, 5 of them have Z4 coupes! I think that says it all!
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Did you mean hair designers ? :? :P
 
Bing said:
Did you mean hair designers ? :? :P
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Everyone seems to want to big-up their job titles these days...

If hairdressers are now 'hair designers' does that mean that sh1t shovellers are now 'Operators of vertically-bladed ordure-moving implements'?
 
Considering the Z4 shares a lot of characteristics with the e-type (and that's considered as one of the best cars ever) I'm surprised the journalist hasn't been fired!
 
Roof down the roadster wins, roof up the coupe wins. Just like every other coup/cab combo I can think of. It's strange the e85 would end up in a article like this, if anything it's got better with age for me. Back around circa 2004 when the z4 was just launched I much preferred the looks of the 987 boxster and particularly the Audi TT. I really thought the TT was the best looking car south of a £100k so much so I bought 2 back to back! these days to me the TT has aged considerably more than the others. Even the interior of the TT which is still nice but it has aged as much as the exterior. The boxster I would place second, still looks nice on the outside although a little dated, but the interior has faired far worse. Very dated for me. That leaves the z4, still looks fresh on the outside, maybe be not 2017 brand new out of the box fresh. But certainly not like the last one rolled of a production line 8 years ago. The interior, particularly the ones with out the sat nav binnacle still look pretty decent too, especially when compared to the other two.
 
To me the E85 has all the makings of a modern classic.

In 40 years time people will be looking at them with the same admiration given to E-types .... in my humble opinion.

Of course, by then, in order to drive them we will have had to rip out the engine and fill the space with batteries! :cry:
 
ok so to be clear....

top 10 designer low points...... but Jesus look at what they've placed it with.....

how can they put it in with the likes of the hyundai matrix!!! literally shocked me.... genuinely the first time I've read anything like that about the z4 platform...
 

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Interesting. The nature of this feature would actually appear to be the worst designs of each of those designers. I have to say on that basis I would be inclined to disagree. Wouldn't the Z4 be the design that made him a household name? (in some households at least!)
Certainly the Z4 is the car that set the tone for BMW 's new model range and whilst at the time is was difficult to appreciate it has subsequently become normal. I just stumbled across this by Chris Harris where he basically says looking back Chris Bangle was right and we were wrong: http://jalopnik.com/we-were-all-wrong-chris-bangle-was-a-prophet-1664079107
Specifically of the Z4
Go and look at a first generation Bangle-BMW Z4, then spy the previous Z3 and tell me how the hell he managed to get that past the suits. He must have spiked a few drinks. Like so many Bangle shapes, it's looking really quite good now.
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newbers....... maybe i read it wrong but jeezzzz..... still a very odd view, however, after reading that other article.. i guess just an opinion.

The bangle era at bmw produced imo some of their best designs , the z4 to me still looks utterly ace, especially with a few cosmetic enhancements.
 
Beedub. We're on the same page. I know we're all biased and would I'm sure acknowledge that not every aspect of the Z4 styling is perfect but when you look at the 9 monsters on that page it really doesn't belong there.

Chris Bangle was very brave and created a design that was hard for many to appreciate for a while but you can't deny that it's a very complete design with consistent styling that sits together very well as a car. It also became the cornerstone styling wise for the whole range.

Admittedly some of the designers of the other cars were very constrained (Cayenne - take this VW and make it look different) but there are lines that have absolutely nothing appealing about them.
 
Funny opinion, considering the VW beetle still sells, and the Porsche Cayenne is also a good seller. I heard the Cayenne got Porsche out of financial crap back when it was first released, so can't be that bad!


As for the Z4, it does show it's age, but it is 13/14 years old. Not bad. 8)
 
No accounting for taste.

Colour has a lot to do with how a cars shape is perceived.

A car in a certain colour can look cheap, yet in another colour look stylish and expensive.

Lots of clinical research on the effect colour has on our psyche.

Then again I wasn't that bowled over with the Z4 when I first saw it. After a while the original 2003 model grew on me. It has it all there.
Others prefer the following models for their aesthetics.

Some people simply hate z4 like I loath range rovers.
 
I thought it was ugly, particularly at the rear, when it came out. Reminded me of the Marcos with that too-high boot line and that too tall spoiler sticking up and out of proportion to the boot.

However, time has allowed me to appreciate the classic shape more and I now think it is a lovely, classic big bonneted rear wheel drive sports car. Boot still a bit ugly, but it makes the car very usable!

I hate these 'ugly' lists anyway. Pointless, as beauty is in the eye of beholder.
 
Paulr said:
I thought it was ugly, particularly at the rear, when it came out. Reminded me of the Marcos with that too-high boot line and that too tall spoiler sticking up and out of proportion to the boot.

However, time has allowed me to appreciate the classic shape more and I now think it is a lovely, classic big bonneted rear wheel drive sports car. Boot still a bit ugly, but it makes the car very usable!

I hate these 'ugly' lists anyway. Pointless, as beauty is in the eye of beholder.
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your right beauty is in the eye of beholder, I think the boot is bloody gorgeous along with the rest of the car :D
 
Thanks for putting up the article Beedub. :thumbsup:

I'm a bit happier now seeing as they list the E85 - so the E86 and E98 aren't on it! :P :fuelfire:

But I still don't see the E85 as fitting in that list of mingers, or the Alfa 166 to be fair!

How did they miss the SsangYong Rhodius, first generation Citroen Picasso, Megane Scenic, and similar horrors? Or are they what Car journos drive these days? :cry:
 
Nope still don't see it being a bad car especially with that list, but to be fair, they're just reporters not track users, designers, engineers nor style gurus just gimps that like top gear guys know sod all about cars yet pretend to, but people buy into it
 
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