Where would you/did you go from an M?
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Paulwirral
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The ones that haven't driven a slk 55 amg and have dismissed it as an old ladies car , try one , or try a gtr if you need to go fast , there really isn't much quicker point to point without training , and if you take training you'll know the real worth of an mx5 
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Paulwirral
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JayEmm said:
I couldn't agree more , I'm on here from a modded z3m coupe , it just seems that reading this thread that every one on here is a millionaire or just airing a wish list .
No offence to all the better off than me , I'm sure most on here are very well heeled .
Paulwirral said:
Not at all Paul. Everyone's personal circumstances are different although we're all generally linked by an appreciation of one of Munich (well, Spartanburg)'s most interesting cars.
The intention of the thread, which has gone pleasantly sideways and brought up many interesting points, is that in the Z4 - especially the M variant - BMW have created quite a stunning car that seems to be somewhat underappreciated.
I am incredibly lucky that, in the recent past, I was part-owner and custodian of both a 993 and a 996 911. Although the general consensus is that the 996 is a piece of dog dribble with a chocolate engine and the 993 is God's own wheels, actually I think the 996 was a much better car in every conceivable way and I enjoyed it that much more.
By the same token I was lucky enough to have a F355 for a few days earlier this year, after spending a long time trying to get into one for some proper driving. It was a glorious thing for sure. More special than the Z4 M.... I think so. Faster than the Z4 M? I don't think so. Better overall? Tough call really.... certainly not £50k difference between them IMHO. But I'm lucky and I've driven a couple of Ferraris, many Porsches, etc.... I consider myself incredibly fortunate in that regard.
We can all dream, can't we?
Easy to drive quicker because they are less skittish. But a good sus set up and a bit of camber helps no end my Z4M coupe drove a treat.
Ye this is a list of wants... Whether they come to fruition is another thing but we all dream right... f40 would be my dream car but that's never going to happen.
Ye this is a list of wants... Whether they come to fruition is another thing but we all dream right... f40 would be my dream car but that's never going to happen.
Paulwirral
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JayEmm said:
Your right on every point , 996 is a much better car than 993 , it's the absolute bargain at the moment , turbos are now on the way back up .
Never tried ferraris , my family was always biased towards German cars and I'll give it less than a year before z4ms start appreciating properly .
My brother was always the porsche man , I was the poor relation with 2nd hand bmws
tomscott said:
Agreed. Had both at some point in stock form (well M3cs) and on the limit the M3 is a more pleasant place to be. I would say the Z is at the end of the day quicker (as it should be weighing less), but requires slightly more thought, not necessarily a bad thing?
M3 is a lovely car assuming you get your head around the image has in certain parts of this country.
I ended up turning mine into some kind of CSL rep with manual box (can not buy a car to DRIVE in without manual myself, though I'd maybe take a 458 as is ~dreaming~ )
Totally agree about a eunos/mx5 being a fantastic steer, spent a lot of time with one of those track prepped on track, amazing chassis. As for it being a poseurs car, erm no, general 'consensus' as I understand it is you look like a wally. Couldn't give a crap myself.
Also spent a couple of weeks with an SL55AMG when it was new, I was a lot younger :roll: but it felt pretty incredible back then. Big and heavy yes but some pretty impressive active suspension (heinously expensive also I hear to service) doing a good job of masking the bulk. The motor was and I guess still is MEGA! Spent some time in a boggo SL500, nothing like the AMG in feel or performance. I also spent some time in an SL65 AMG (yes i knew someone at merc :wink: ), good god that was fast, totally ludicrous car.
Textbook I know but I think the only thing I'd move to is the cayman s/r. I'd be looking for a similar type of vehicle (i.e. sports car that can be used all the time and on track occasionally). Justifying the extra $ would be hard though. I have the S54 with the CSL airbox and that alone is just incredibly difficult to replace at any price point, imo all s54's should have come with that box, it just makes such an incredible noise.
Tom do you have a dyno prinout from your car, do you know what power it is making? Do the Shrick cams make it a bit peakier?
Pretty much the only thing I really enjoyed about the 993 was the step-change in power around 3,000-3,500 rpm when it came on cam - it wasn't exactly fast even then but it felt like a big change. VANOS etc... does a great job of making very fast cars feel rather slow
Pretty much the only thing I really enjoyed about the 993 was the step-change in power around 3,000-3,500 rpm when it came on cam - it wasn't exactly fast even then but it felt like a big change. VANOS etc... does a great job of making very fast cars feel rather slow
Paulwirral said:The ones that haven't driven a slk 55 amg and have dismissed it as an old ladies car , try one , or try a gtr if you need to go fast , there really isn't much quicker point to point without training , and if you take training you'll know the real worth of an mx5
Ref my comments on the SLK, it wasn't about whether it's a good car (my missus test drove a 350 and said it was surprisingly very good)....it's more the market Mercedes play to with it (slightly middle ageing women) and the social stigma of driving a car like that. There are two very nice 55's in my gym carpark, both driven by the slightly older lady. Wonder what total % of buyers are women 95%...?
Ref the Black series, that's just a marketing exercise by Mercedes. Who really bought one ?Happy to be flamed about it, but I'm surely not the only one on here who wouldn't even consider buying one....???
Angelus666 said:Paulwirral said:The ones that haven't driven a slk 55 amg and have dismissed it as an old ladies car , try one , or try a gtr if you need to go fast , there really isn't much quicker point to point without training , and if you take training you'll know the real worth of an mx5
Ref my comments on the SLK,(slightly middle ageing women)
Yup I have an SLK 350!
Stark aka Nicola
JayEmm said:
Don't think it makes it less peaky. The CSL after all had a little more torque. If you go on the Schrick website it actually says that mid-range is improved with the CSL spec. Can you tell I've been thinking about it?!!
