What's your gaming history?

19Tb of storage... you do know you can just use a VPN to access p*rnhub don't you....? No need to download the whole thing!
That's only the internal storage on the gaming PC.

There's also about the same externally for my Mac 'work' stuff - via Thunderbolt multi-bay enclosures and external SSDs.

I don't trust streaming - they can take your 'purchases' off you at any time ;)
 
ZX81 when I was 11, it was my Dads but he let me lose on it.
Spectrum
BBC at school
Commodore 64
Amiga 500 & 600
Sega Saturn
PS1
XBox
PS2
PS3
PS4
PS5
I’m now 55 and still spend stupid amounts of time playing video games. I’ve put 204 hours in this years F1 and over 500 hours into Grand Prix Turismo 7.
 
It just means I've got a 'last gen' high-end gaming PC ;)
Yes but what matters is it looks cool. :cool: So you can have it in the living room. MrsG made me buy the pretty one, with the transparent panel and the internal lights. I just wanted a basic internet machine.
 
Yes but what matters is it looks cool. :cool: So you can have it in the living room. MrsG made me buy the pretty one, with the transparent panel and the internal lights. I just wanted a basic internet machine.
For discrete installs you can just get a mini-PC / NUC / MacMini and run games via cloud streaming.

My 'portable' work 2019 iMac has the same i7 8700 too, but with the Radeon Pro Vega 20 GPU (wrong GPU choice by me, as it was £400 more expensive for ultimately worse performance). I've hacked it to run W11 instead of MacOS as the later MacOSes didn't feel as snappy anymore.
 
ZX81 when I was 11, it was my Dads but he let me lose on it.
Spectrum
BBC at school
Commodore 64
Amiga 500 & 600
Sega Saturn
PS1
XBox
PS2
PS3
PS4
PS5
I’m now 55 and still spend stupid amounts of time playing video games. I’ve put 204 hours in this years F1 and over 500 hours into Grand Prix Turismo 7.
You had a computer at school. :eek: I spent 4 1/2 years training in the navy after school and we were still using slide rules and log tables. In fact I went out and bought a high end calculator in the lunch hour before one particular exam. Lots of polar to rectangular conversions needed. I could do them fine on paper. But the calculator was so much faster.
 
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Realised I didn't add my computer history (not all gaming though).

From the school computer / science club:​

  • Commodore PET
  • BBC Micro-A/B
  • Commodore VIC-20

Home/office computers:​

  • Atari 2600
  • Atari 5200 or maybe 7800
  • Sinclair ZX-81
  • Sinclair ZX-Spectrum
  • Sinclair ZX-Spectrum 128
  • NES
  • Amstrad CPC464 / 128
  • Apple SE/30 (work PC provided by client, but used at home as well)
  • Apple II CX (work PC)
  • Apple II VX (work PC)
  • Apple LC II (work PC)
  • Apple LC III (work PC)
  • Super Nintendo
  • Apple Centris 610 (work PC)
  • Apple Quadra 660AV
  • Apple Quadra 840AV (work PC)
  • Apple PowerMac 8100 (work PC)
  • Apple PowerMac G3
  • Apple PowerMac G4 (work PC)
  • Apple PowerMac G5 (work PC)
  • Apple MacPro 1,1
  • Apple MacPro 4,1
  • Apple iMac G5 20" PowerPC 970
  • N64
  • Apple iMac 21.5" Core 2 Duo
  • Gamecube
  • Xbox
  • Apple iMac 5k 27" i7 4790K
  • Xbox 360
  • Xbox One
  • Apple iMac 4k 21.5" i7 8700
  • Xbox One X
  • Intel NUC i5-8259U
  • Windows gaming PC (5800X + 3080)
  • Apple Mac Studio M1 Max
  • Windows gaming PC (7800X3D + 4090)
  • Apple Mac Studio M4 Max
  • Apple MacMini M4
 
Anyone know what sort of clock speed the latest CPU's and data busses run at? Been a while since I built a new PC.
 
Anyone know what sort of clock speed the latest CPU's and data busses run at? Been a while since I built a new PC.
Base clocks around 3000MHz, boost clocks upto 6000MHz (unless it's an Intel efficiency core, in which case it won't go above 5000MHz).

Best value/performance DDR5 RAM speeds on AM5 (i.e. Ryzen 7xxxx/9xxx CPUs) is 2 sticks of 6000MHz/MTs - but that's technically 'overclocked' and you just have to check what speeds are supported on the motherboards via the manufacturers' QVL lists. Due to limited memory controller/bandwidth on most AM5 motherboards, they can't handle more than about 5200MHz/MTs with 4 sticks.

Intel is a little different as their memory controllers are a bit better, and 7000MHz/MTs speeds are fairly standard...but they need that speed, and the extra boost clock frequency to keep up with the more efficient AM5 CPUs (that offer the same/better performance at about 1/3-1/2 of the power consumption).

PCIe 5.0 is now the norm, so most (non-office / non-budget) motherboards will have at least one 5.0x16 GPU slot and one 5.0x4/5.0x8 m.2 slot - along with 2-4 PCIe 4 and/or PCIe 3 m.2 / PCIe slots. Even the current generation RTX5090 GPU will not saturate a 5.0x16 PCIe slot (nor a 4.0x16 slot), so there's plenty of headroom for probably 10 years of GPU upgrades.

Latest motherboards also have more USB-C and USB4/Thunderbolt headers, and at least Wifi 6E (most have Wifi 7).
 
I started on an Atari 2600... had several of the kit that's been mentioned in this thread. Nice memories of them all.

Currently running a Ryzen 9 7900X3D, 96GB Corsair Vengeance 6000MHz, Nvidia 5090FE, 8TB Samsung 9100 M.2 SSD, (2) 4TB Samsung 990 M.2 SSD, (2) 10TB WD Purple HD, Samsung M9 32" 4K OLED smart monitor, TRYX Panorama SE 360 AIO cooler.

It doesn't suck, especially the M9 OLED monitor just added. Breathtaking. Less time on games, more on AI diffusion lately.
 
I truly don’t mean to be judgemental or whatever but do guys at 50+ really play video games…? 🧐
And sexist :p I'm currently playing Ghost of Tsushima on Steam Deck, it is the most beautiful piece of gaming creation and a fabulous story that you can participate in. Unfortunately, I do not have enough free time to dedicate to play it properly.

@mmm-five, oh your rig is a thing of beauty.
 
I truly don’t mean to be judgemental or whatever but do guys at 50+ really play video games…? 🧐
Didn’t have a lot of time to do so when I was younger as I worked away from home most of the time (for 1-4 weeks at a time)…and was too knackered most weekends to do anything but sleep due to 60-100 hour weeks.

It’s only really been the last 6 or 7 years that I’ve bought a gaming PC for more in depth, longer gaming sessions…and the consoles were all for casual gaming where I only had an hour or so to jump in.
 
Base clocks around 3000MHz, boost clocks upto 6000MHz (unless it's an Intel efficiency core, in which case it won't go above 5000MHz).

Best value/performance DDR5 RAM speeds on AM5 (i.e. Ryzen 7xxxx/9xxx CPUs) is 2 sticks of 6000MHz/MTs - but that's technically 'overclocked' and you just have to check what speeds are supported on the motherboards via the manufacturers' QVL lists. Due to limited memory controller/bandwidth on most AM5 motherboards, they can't handle more than about 5200MHz/MTs with 4 sticks.

Intel is a little different as their memory controllers are a bit better, and 7000MHz/MTs speeds are fairly standard...but they need that speed, and the extra boost clock frequency to keep up with the more efficient AM5 CPUs (that offer the same/better performance at about 1/3-1/2 of the power consumption).

PCIe 5.0 is now the norm, so most (non-office / non-budget) motherboards will have at least one 5.0x16 GPU slot and one 5.0x4/5.0x8 m.2 slot - along with 2-4 PCIe 4 and/or PCIe 3 m.2 / PCIe slots. Even the current generation RTX5090 GPU will not saturate a 5.0x16 PCIe slot (nor a 4.0x16 slot), so there's plenty of headroom for probably 10 years of GPU upgrades.

Latest motherboards also have more USB-C and USB4/Thunderbolt headers, and at least Wifi 6E (most have Wifi 7).
Not moved on as much as I was expecting. One day they will get past the heat and limitations of RF and into light frequencies. That will be a whole new world of performance. Until then we will need a lot of water and cooling fins.
 
Didn’t have a lot of time to do so when I was younger as I worked away from home most of the time (for 1-4 weeks at a time)…and was too knackered most weekends to do anything but sleep due to 60-100 hour weeks.

It’s only really been the last 6 or 7 years that I’ve bought a gaming PC for more in depth, longer gaming sessions…and the consoles were all for casual gaming where I only had an hour or so to jump in.
Sounds like I’m missing something Tony…🧐

It’ll stay that way though, got two cars as shells to rebuild that have been waiting for a couple of years already so….🫣
 
Not moved on as much as I was expecting. One day they will get past the heat and limitations of RF and into light frequencies. That will be a whole new world of performance. Until then we will need a lot of water and cooling fins.
That's because you've lived through the megahertz wars, where every CPU had to have higher clock speeds to be 'better'.

It's all about IPC (instructions per cycle) now. So if a CPU can do 10,000MHz but 1 instruction per cycle, it will have 10,000 instructions per second. If a more efficient CPU only does 5000MHz, but can do 3 instructions per cycle, then it can do 15,000 instructions per second.

So the latter, more efficient one (in this case AMD the more modern AM4/AM5 CPUs) do more for the same power/clock.
 
Best value/performance DDR5 RAM speeds on AM5 (i.e. Ryzen 7xxxx/9xxx CPUs) is 2 sticks of 6000MHz/MTs - but that's technically 'overclocked' and you just have to check what speeds are supported on the motherboards via the manufacturers' QVL lists. Due to limited memory controller/bandwidth on most AM5 motherboards, they can't handle more than about 5200MHz/MTs with 4 sticks.

I've two sticks of 48GB at 6000MHz, but I'm eating it up working with AI. I'll have to go to four sticks before I consider changing platforms to a Threadripper and potentially an RTX Pro 6000.
 
Really is stunning how resource hungry AI is, even with half precision models (FP16). When I first started building this rig, I thought I had future proofed with 4TB NVMe SSD and 96GB... I knew I would use 64GB, but 96GB... tons of headroom. not. At the beginning of the year, I had picked up an RTX 5080 OC (Asus) during the scalpers paradise just to work with something functional. But that card at 16GB VRAM is neutered heavily -- they really should have never made it. It should have had at least 24GB of VRAM to be useful. I'm certain the 'super' variant will resolve that.

So, I upped to an Nvidia RTX 5090 FE to get the 32GB of VRAM and the 2x CUDA cores. I still run out of VRAM if I'm not effectively unloading models during workflow stages. The 8TB NVME (PCI 5) is specifically dedicated to the AI models -- my working library and several engines have exceeded 4TB and the speeds for loading and unloading are good. Sequential reads at almost 15GB/second really help in large file model loads.

But it's funny -- once you have a fast rig -- you find yourself hitting its limitations, just like a car! So, while I'm certainly looking at an RTX Pro 6000 -- there's not a wife acceptance factor for the cost. The extra two sticks of 48GB Vengeance would be easier to sneak in.

Oh yes -- games also rock. Plays everything at EPIC across the board. Matched with an OLED 4K monitor, it's a religious experience. I recommend to anyone as irresponsible as me. :D
 
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