What have you done to your car today?

[Marlon]

You can change on the move.

When you hit Sport with the throttle depressed to any degree there is no immediate change. When you next lift off the throttle on reapplication it will have changed to give more throttle opening for less pedal travel.

When you turn Sport off with the throttle depressed it immediately goes back to normal which can easily be felt on the motorway as the car slows down slightly.

For ages I drove around in Sport everywhere except town where 1st gear is annoyingly jumpy. It is great for heel and toe. Then I started using normal again and found the steering better and even more involvement as more control over the throttle and more input required to get the same effect.

To be frank, electric throttle is a right royal pain in the arse on any car I can recall. I miss a good old cable as it did what you asked, nothing more and nothing less. None of this damped or oversprung response BS.

Interesting observations.

I drive around in Sport mode all the time - every journey is ignition on and button pressed. I prefer the lighter more responsive throttle response, however, I cant really notice any difference in the steering.
My understanding it that the steering feel is supposed to change in Sport mode - tighten up / heavier?
Leaving aside the throttle response, are you saying that you prefer the feel of the steering when not in Sport mode?

I find the main difference in the steering between sport and comfort is when on the motorway. Sport gives a lot more positive response

Based on Steve84N's experience I've been driving around this weekend not in sport mode and am quite enjoying it

 

[Zoomer]

Got bored so thought I would look into why my rear drop door goes rat-ta -ta-tat when I open it. I think it the plastic bush moving out of it hole.

So removed it and taken door cover off to double check

Now just glued bush in place



Waiting till Sunday and will test fit it and open it a few times to test for failure.

 

[mr wilks]

Interesting observations.

I drive around in Sport mode all the time - every journey is ignition on and button pressed. I prefer the lighter more responsive throttle response, however, I cant really notice any difference in the steering.
My understanding it that the steering feel is supposed to change in Sport mode - tighten up / heavier?
Leaving aside the throttle response, are you saying that you prefer the feel of the steering when not in Sport mode?

I find the main difference in the steering between sport and comfort is when on the motorway. Sport gives a lot more positive response

Based on Steve84N's experience I've been driving around this weekend not in sport mode and am quite enjoying it

I think you are all comparing E85/86 sport mode settings with E89 :?

 

[AlienZed]

Car back from powder coaters, Wheels looking better than new
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Lookin gud Paul.
U gonna change the centre caps .
Carbon effect look gud.
But then i am biased.
Moz in Oz

New ones on Moz, prefer the standard blue. You still down under?

Due back wed Paul. Cant wait to feel the cold again :wink:
Then the search is on for a new Zed.
M

 

[Steve84N]

I think you are all comparing E85/86 sport mode settings with E89 :?

Why?

Everyone but Rob's post was from e85/e86 owners, plus he's had one too.

The comments are all valid and I'm baffled by yours... :?

Glad you're enjoying it Marlon, I was pleasantly surprised and sounds like you are too. There are still times when I used Sport, motorway was one as there no steering to be done really and you can use much smaller ankle movements. Ultimate laziness! :lol:

 

[mr wilks]

I think you are all comparing E85/86 sport mode settings with E89 :?

Why?


The comments are all valid and I'm baffled by yours... :?

So Nanu was referring to a E85 E86 was he ? :?

I found the sport button on Si E85 E86 had a different effect to the sport button on my 23i & 35i , that's why i offered the comment , i do apologise if that baffled you so much

 

[Steve84N]

So I missed the other E89 comment but the topic was raised from an e86 driver and there are far more replies from e85/e86 owners than e89. Hence, it's odd to imply we all have crossed wires.

Probably best we just agree to disagree as you often find little difference in the feel of things on a car compared to others.

 

[Truth]

Nope.

Nanu was definitely replying talking about his E89. People are getting their wires crossed as there has been responses to what he said about his e89 and comparing it to their e85/86. No need to get baffled.

 

[mr wilks]

So I missed the other E89 comment but the topic was raised from an e86 driver and there are far more replies from e85/e86 owners than e89. Hence, it's odd to imply we all have crossed wires.

Probably best we just agree to disagree as you often find little difference in the feel of things on a car compared to others.

So I missed the other E89 comment but the topic was raised from an e86 driver and there are far more replies from e85/e86 owners than e89. Hence, it's odd to imply we all have crossed wires.

Probably best we just agree to disagree as you often find little difference in the feel of things on a car compared to others.

I hadn't actually read the previous pages where it had been discussed , just saw Marlon / Nanu & yourself discussing .

As a car owner you would expect the sport button to perform the same across the whole Bmw range however that isn't the case .
Of the Zs ive owned Si E85 E86 (auto + 6spd ) ///M E85 + the 23i /35i i found varying affects to throttle , steering & exhaust tone dependent on model . Never experienced any affect to suspension :? but ive not had a car with adaptive ride

 

[Steve84N]

Car design moves on and so it's not really unexpected that it doesn't work in exactly the same way.

This is the e85/e86 discussion area so the only confused people are the e89 owners. The discussion we were having we each knew what we were replying to.

 

[mjennings23]

Done some research, and it seems there's an issue with the design of the Meyle HD rear top mounts. Now, these symptoms sound identical to my slight knock since changing the suspension, so have ordered a pair of Lemforder parts to try next weekend and see if it was in fact faulty designed parts.

 

[Steve84N]

I wouldn't be surprised if knocking was coming from rear top mounts either.

I tried some Turner ones and they came off shortly afterwards only to find the inner metal sleeve was bent. I believe they have a flawed design where the metal tube isn't long enough compared to the rubber part so it didn't clamp together properly.

I replaced them with Meyle HD and it was much better but after a while there was still some knocking which wasn't there on the original mounts...

 

[mjennings23]

It's more the irritation that I changed everything and that created noises that weren't there previously! Especially if a new part is indeed causing the issue. Bolts are as tight as they can be when I installed, and the noise started almost immediately.

 

[Steve84N]

I know the feeling...

They say the OEM part is a weak point but to be honest it was fine when I took it off. The front top mount had split though.

 

[mjennings23]

Anyway, oem parts are incoming this week so can at least see if this has been the bane of my car!

 

[MACK]

I used the lemforder ones when I did mine after reading about the design flaws with the Meyle HD and others. They've been fine with no noises etc but then again they have only been on about a month. The originals were still fine though after twelve years and could really have gone back on. Unlike the shocks that were well and truly fubarred!

 

[mjennings23]

I've used plenty of other Meyle parts and they've been spot on, so it didn't occur to me that they might be a bad part. Anyway, you live and learn, and if it costs £25 to sort out this damned rattle then I'm happy to pay it...

 

[MACK]

I've used plenty of other Meyle parts and they've been spot on, so it didn't occur to me that they might be a bad part. Anyway, you live and learn, and if it costs £25 to sort out this damned rattle then I'm happy to pay it...

I've used plenty of other Meyle parts and they've been spot on, so it didn't occur to me that they might be a bad part. Anyway, you live and learn, and if it costs £25 to sort out this damned rattle then I'm happy to pay it...

I used Meyle HD stuff for years too and its on the front of my zed and it's been fine. Luckily I spotted the posts regarding the issues with their rear top mounts on here and other forums so went lemforder instead. Have to say I was surprised there were issues with the Meyle stuff too, normally you can swear by them. The irony here seems to be that the oem ones are lemforder anyway but the oem have a bad rap yet virtually everyone seem to say theyre old ones were fine.

 

[mjennings23]

I've used plenty of other Meyle parts and they've been spot on, so it didn't occur to me that they might be a bad part. Anyway, you live and learn, and if it costs £25 to sort out this damned rattle then I'm happy to pay it...

I've used plenty of other Meyle parts and they've been spot on, so it didn't occur to me that they might be a bad part. Anyway, you live and learn, and if it costs £25 to sort out this damned rattle then I'm happy to pay it...

I used Meyle HD stuff for years too and its on the front of my zed and it's been fine. Luckily I spotted the posts regarding the issues with their rear top mounts on here and other forums so went lemforder instead. Have to say I was surprised there were issues with the Meyle stuff too, normally you can swear by them. The irony here seems to be that the oem ones are lemforder anyway but the oem have a bad rap yet virtually everyone seem to say theyre old ones were fine.

Far as I'm aware my oem ones had managed 100k without issues, I just changed them as the strut was being changed anyway, seemed sensible and as you say, no issues with any Meyle parts previously.

Of course, if I'm wrong and this isn't the cause then I'm going to give up on the damn thing!

 

[jamie_z4]

I've used plenty of other Meyle parts and they've been spot on, so it didn't occur to me that they might be a bad part. Anyway, you live and learn, and if it costs £25 to sort out this damned rattle then I'm happy to pay it...

I've used plenty of other Meyle parts and they've been spot on, so it didn't occur to me that they might be a bad part. Anyway, you live and learn, and if it costs £25 to sort out this damned rattle then I'm happy to pay it...

I used Meyle HD stuff for years too and its on the front of my zed and it's been fine. Luckily I spotted the posts regarding the issues with their rear top mounts on here and other forums so went lemforder instead. Have to say I was surprised there were issues with the Meyle stuff too, normally you can swear by them. The irony here seems to be that the oem ones are lemforder anyway but the oem have a bad rap yet virtually everyone seem to say theyre old ones were fine.

Far as I'm aware my oem ones had managed 100k without issues, I just changed them as the strut was being changed anyway, seemed sensible and as you say, no issues with any Meyle parts previously.

Of course, if I'm wrong and this isn't the cause then I'm going to give up on the damn thing!

i have to admit I dropped a bollock this weekend, fitted new Meyle ones , and forgot to refit the disc that sits underneath the top mount, reassembled went for a drive and both shocks shot through the floor into the boot :lol: lesson learned an all that