what an asswipe

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stuartinzg said:
Sadly ranski, rather than warn the members about this "bad deal", you've just embarrassed yourself to the whole community and now it's stored on the Internet until it's deleted by the moderators or the forum disappears.

Well done.

Not at all. Ranski is doing what good forums do and highlight things for the benefit of the majority of members. Members express their thoughts and feelings in different ways and to different levels.

Won't be getting deleted anytime soon and the forums been around a long time and likely to continue.
 
stuartinzg said:
Sadly ranski, rather than warn the members about this "bad deal", you've just embarrassed yourself to the whole community and now it's stored on the Internet until it's deleted by the moderators or the forum disappears.

Well done.

I dont think he has at all.
I think it's quite clear from this thread that people should check and look for hardtops that come with lock covers, and avoid those who split and sell seperately.
 
stuartinzg said:
sk93 said:
Moheddine said:
You don't need both items though - the covers are cosmetic, not functional. Not one of the three hardtops I've owned have come with the covers.

Never said you did. However, your definition of need may be different to others.
Some people probably wouldn't be happy with the inner workings being exposed inside their otherwise luxury interior, especially when it's obvious once you've got a hardtop that something should actually be covering those exposures as standard.

Doesn't justify the title and calling the guy and arsehole. Sorry- not appropriate.

and again, I never said it did.
However, this is an open forum, and he's welcome to say what he thinks.
I didn't see any threats or slanderous remarks (all actual points made in the original post appear to have been valid, disregarding the name calling, which is just opinion).

If you don't like it, the log out button's up there on the top.
 
sk93 said:
and again, I never said it did.
However, this is an open forum, and he's welcome to say what he thinks.
I didn't see any threats or slanderous remarks (all actual points made in the original post appear to have been valid, disregarding the name calling, which is just opinion).

If you don't like it, the log out button's up there on the top.
sk93 said:
I dont think he has at all.
I think it's quite clear from this thread that people should check and look for hardtops that come with lock covers, and avoid those who split and sell seperately.

Wow, just when you thought this thread was over - it's back with a $hitter follow up than Taken 3. This is like an intellectual gift that just keeps on giving.

Ranski's first post on this thread was commenting about the price of the item. It wasn't a friendly heads-up to other forum members that this hardtop came with covers originally.

Secondly, why should you avoid those that split and sell separately? Everyone knows that a hardtop with lock covers, stand etc sell for a premium - because of how scarce the lock covers are. So if somebody decides to buy this hardtop on it's own, at whatever price, that's their prerogative. Nobody is making anyone buy it, but comments like that could make people think that it is the norm for covers to be sold with hardtops, when in reality the opposite is more likely, ergo detracting potential buyers.

Coming out with insults just made him look like he had a an axe to grind, showed lack of maturity, and was simply not constructive. There is a time, and a rather humorous thread, on this forum to be immature in - this is not it.

Finally, I refer you to the classifieds policy:
"Section 3 - Conduct
Any person(s) found disrespecting other members' posts or products will be warned and their post promptly removed. If the individual(s) fail(s) to heed this warning, they will be banned."
This thread has clearly disrespected dperiera's products, yet hasn't been removed - let alone promptly. So actually, if you don't like it, you don't have to accept it and log out - these guidelines are in place so members shouldn't, and thankfully rarely, have to read such churlish tripe.
 
well well, stuartinzg and Moheddine are doing a double team and it seems have a shine for me... I've never felt so popular

I stand by what I said, by which its bad form to split items which should come as one, it just comes across as too delboy for me. Worth noting I didn't comment on the hardtop stand nor cover, so not sure why you two are waffling on about on that topic

PS stuartinzg, that remark you must have ferociously typed out the other evening, I quote

"embarrassed yourself to the whole community and now it's stored on the Internet until it's deleted by the moderators or the forum disappears.

Come on... i take it you haven't read other posts on this an other forums? Maybe have a wander over to the immigration post? you'll have a right jolly reading some of those comments.

Anyway... I will leave it there. If you do find you still have some anger to vent just discuss it with me over a coffee at the next Z4 meet :thumbsup:
 
Moheddine said:
Ranski's first post on this thread was commenting about the price of the item. It wasn't a friendly heads-up to other forum members that this hardtop came with covers originally.
Correct. third post explains that they should come together.
Moheddine said:
Everyone knows that a hardtop with lock covers, stand etc sell for a premium
Everyone HERE knows that, now.

Moheddine said:
comments like that could make people think that it is the norm for covers to be sold with hardtops, when in reality the opposite is more likely, ergo detracting potential buyers.
I didn't know that when I bought my hardtop (with covers and bag), for a non-premium price of around £500 last year.
Comments like that help to illustrate that people are deliberately separating a single item, to make much more money for it.

Moheddine said:
Finally, I refer you to the classifieds policy:
"Section 3 - Conduct
Any person(s) found disrespecting other members' posts or products will be warned and their post promptly removed. If the individual(s) fail(s) to heed this warning, they will be banned."

This thread isn't a classified thread for the item(s) though is it?
Those refer to someone posting on/about a classified ad listed on this site.
Ranski clearly links to an eBay ad, not a forum ad.
 
So the rest of the points are valid then?! :-P (joke, it really doesn't need a reply).

I guess we all have different ways of highlighting things - some more eloquently, less abrasive, and with more nous than others; so we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
Quip? Ummm... Yeah?! (If that's the answer you're looking for, otherwise no?! - whichever makes you happy! :-) )
 
Just to note, I may be one of a few forum members who bought his hardtop direct from BMW UK. I still have the invoice, and the covers were not bought separately. Nor was the bag/cover, the handbook or the tool - they all came as a single package (in a mahooosive packing case). The only addition I bought was the stand.

So, direct from the manufacturer, these items are not split.
 
to round off Markeg's above post and wrap up the thread, an FYI for all potential hardtop owners

This is what the side covers and fitting tool look like, which non controversially should come with any hardtop

Winter is coming...

WITHOUT THE COVERS :thumbsdown:
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WITH THE COVERS :thumbsup:
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CLOSEUP
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CLOSEUP
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The hardtop fitting tool
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Ranski, no one disagrees with your point - it does look a lot better. Thanks for taking the effort to show the before and after. But what seems to be difficult to get across to you is that there are better ways to articulate your point in a more "friendly" and "community" style. We're all Z owners here after all.

You don't need to call fellow forum members arsewipes and/or arseholes to give a clear explanation as you did above.
 
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