Weekend car - roadster bought!
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Looks great, love the colour. We should meet in a McDonald's car park on a Friday night and do doughnuts together 
I quite like the de-badged look. I'd considered doing the same to mine until I discovered the front bumper badge has feet, so removing the it leaves holes to be filled. I've learned quite a bit in the six months or so that I've had mine, so feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions
I quite like the de-badged look. I'd considered doing the same to mine until I discovered the front bumper badge has feet, so removing the it leaves holes to be filled. I've learned quite a bit in the six months or so that I've had mine, so feel free to send me a PM if you have any questions
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I've nearly bought an S2K on several occasions .
Great bombproof engine , beat gearbox ever , ok handling ,looks great
Graat colour you've chosen and I'm sure you'll have much fun
Be careful on the limit and it has a tendency for the back end to step out all of a sudden of line Esepcially if it's even a bit wet .
Great bombproof engine , beat gearbox ever , ok handling ,looks great
Graat colour you've chosen and I'm sure you'll have much fun
Be careful on the limit and it has a tendency for the back end to step out all of a sudden of line Esepcially if it's even a bit wet .
south yorkshire
nice- amazed at the price these command
wantaz4m said:thanks for all the advice about the driving in the wet chaps...I am a bitabout it more dangerous then the tuscan!!
Still this car is a 2nd car, reserved in the main for weekend driving and also in the dry.....
I use mine as a DD and did so all of last winter without problems. It's not actually too much welly on a wet bend that will catch you out as I'm sure you're anticipating that from a RWD car anyway. What you won't expect is the little wriggle from the rear when you shift gears at full throttle even on a straight road. Try a couple of 9k rpm shifts from 1st to 2nd in the dry and you'll feel what I mean. The first time I did it on a slippery road I got pretty sideways without expecting it.
The LSD is much softer than that in the ///M, both when it starts to let go and when it grips. That means that slides are much easier to control and the lack of torque at low rpms lessens the chances of an inadvertent slide when driving normally.
BMWZ4MC said:wantaz4m said:thanks for all the advice about the driving in the wet chaps...I am a bit
Still this car is a 2nd car, reserved in the main for weekend driving and also in the dry.....
I use mine as a DD and did so all of last winter without problems. It's not actually too much welly on a wet bend that will catch you out as I'm sure you're anticipating that from a RWD car anyway. What you won't expect is the little wriggle from the rear when you shift gears at full throttle even on a straight road. Try a couple of 9k rpm shifts from 1st to 2nd in the dry and you'll feel what I mean. The first time I did it on a slippery road I got pretty sideways without expecting it.
The LSD is much softer than that in the ///M, both when it starts to let go and when it grips. That means that slides are much easier to control and the lack of torque at low rpms lessens the chances of an inadvertent slide when driving normally.
that is really useful to know....
I'll be sure to test it out on a track day...(it's one of those, where you're on your own) so I can have a bit more of a go.....
There was a good thread on TZ recently with plenty of of S2000 experience being expressed.
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?333510-Roadster-debate
Some useful bits (i’m having a slow day at work)
Earlier cars (pre-2004, distinguished by the separate front grille and blanked-off air intakes) had a more pronounced step in power delivery below the point at which Vtec kicks in (Yo!), and a stiffer rear suspension set-up, the combination of the two tending to catch out the unwary. Later cars, known as post-facelift (2005 onwards) used different engine mapping which gave a much flatter torque curve and makes the engine very tractable and useable lower in the rev range. I use mine for everyday driving in towns and around the New Forest, which has a 40mph speed limit, and there really isn't a down-side. You still get the manic kick in the back above 6800rpm, all the way to 9000, which I realise doesn't suit older drivers. The rear suspension was recalibrated, with slightly softer springs and anti-roll bars for the "facelift" cars, which tamed the rear end in extremis…..
...Alignment is hyper-critical on the S2000, and replacing siezed adjusters along with resetting the alignment (the S2000 has double wishbones all round, and there are 26 adjusters - three per wishbone and two for the front caster) is expensive. The adjusters were never lubricated when the car was built, and a combination of water corrosion and electrostatic arcing will corrode the bolts into the sleeves which run through the bushes, so it's a labour-intensive job…..
...The right tyres are also crucial and have a profound effect on the handling.
I did getting on for 100k in my 2 s2ks, and probably 20 track days between them and never spun once. I did a couple of car limits days and spun loads (and learnt loads too...)
A couple of points: people often over-correct and fishtail into the scenery. Actually if you ease back your inputs quite often the car will sort itself out. On a trackday with my wife I made a complete mess of a hairpin and let the car sort it out for me, she now thinks I'm a bit if a driving god! (Well not really but she did think it was quite well done...)
Secondly, I have a theory that the action of the diff sometimes make the car feel like it's over-steering when it isn't. For the unwary, cue opposite lock action with potentially disastrous consequences...
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?333510-Roadster-debate
Some useful bits (i’m having a slow day at work)
Earlier cars (pre-2004, distinguished by the separate front grille and blanked-off air intakes) had a more pronounced step in power delivery below the point at which Vtec kicks in (Yo!), and a stiffer rear suspension set-up, the combination of the two tending to catch out the unwary. Later cars, known as post-facelift (2005 onwards) used different engine mapping which gave a much flatter torque curve and makes the engine very tractable and useable lower in the rev range. I use mine for everyday driving in towns and around the New Forest, which has a 40mph speed limit, and there really isn't a down-side. You still get the manic kick in the back above 6800rpm, all the way to 9000, which I realise doesn't suit older drivers. The rear suspension was recalibrated, with slightly softer springs and anti-roll bars for the "facelift" cars, which tamed the rear end in extremis…..
...Alignment is hyper-critical on the S2000, and replacing siezed adjusters along with resetting the alignment (the S2000 has double wishbones all round, and there are 26 adjusters - three per wishbone and two for the front caster) is expensive. The adjusters were never lubricated when the car was built, and a combination of water corrosion and electrostatic arcing will corrode the bolts into the sleeves which run through the bushes, so it's a labour-intensive job…..
...The right tyres are also crucial and have a profound effect on the handling.
I did getting on for 100k in my 2 s2ks, and probably 20 track days between them and never spun once. I did a couple of car limits days and spun loads (and learnt loads too...)
A couple of points: people often over-correct and fishtail into the scenery. Actually if you ease back your inputs quite often the car will sort itself out. On a trackday with my wife I made a complete mess of a hairpin and let the car sort it out for me, she now thinks I'm a bit if a driving god! (Well not really but she did think it was quite well done...)
Secondly, I have a theory that the action of the diff sometimes make the car feel like it's over-steering when it isn't. For the unwary, cue opposite lock action with potentially disastrous consequences...
The F20C was hand built adapting technology from Honda's race car engines using forged aluminium pistons, an aluminium block with fibre reinforced cylinder liners and titanium con rods. Everything was designed with high rpm in mind - even the camshafts are hollow to reduce weight - and Honda fitted a high flow cat and shortened intake plenum as standard. VTEC kicks in (yo!) at 6000rpm on both exhaust and intake cams giving max power of 240hp at 8300rpm and max torque of 207Nm at 7500rpm. It's the only car I've driven in which the rate of acceleration increases as you approach the red line. It's only 1997cc but has a power output of 125hp per litre, unmatched by any production car until the Ferrari 458. It does produce 93db of engine noise at full chat though, and that's measured inside the cabin!Beedub said:
http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/1119826-rotrexd-s2000-496bhp/
£15k for a 500hp supercharged S2K :evil:
If I hadn't bought one already, I'd have this in my garage![/quote]
goo lord have jesus I'm guessing that performs WELL into the supercar territory.... how the hell can a 2.0l withstand that?? these engines are impressive to say the least.[/quote]
The F20C was hand built adapting technology from Honda's race car engines using forged aluminium pistons, an aluminium block with fibre reinforced cylinder liners and titanium con rods. Everything was designed with high rpm in mind - even the camshafts are hollow to reduce weight - and Honda fitted a high flow cat and shortened intake plenum as standard. VTEC kicks in (yo!) at 6000rpm on both exhaust and intake cams giving max power of 240hp at 8300rpm and max torque of 207Nm at 7500rpm. It's the only car I've driven in which the rate of acceleration increases as you approach the red line. It's only 1997cc but has a power output of 125hp per litre, unmatched by any production car until the Ferrari 458. It does produce 93db of engine noise at full chat though, and that's measured inside the cabin![/quote]
how the hell does a car that light perform with 500hp.... that must be nuts.
£15k for a 500hp supercharged S2K :evil:
If I hadn't bought one already, I'd have this in my garage![/quote]
goo lord have jesus I'm guessing that performs WELL into the supercar territory.... how the hell can a 2.0l withstand that?? these engines are impressive to say the least.[/quote]
The F20C was hand built adapting technology from Honda's race car engines using forged aluminium pistons, an aluminium block with fibre reinforced cylinder liners and titanium con rods. Everything was designed with high rpm in mind - even the camshafts are hollow to reduce weight - and Honda fitted a high flow cat and shortened intake plenum as standard. VTEC kicks in (yo!) at 6000rpm on both exhaust and intake cams giving max power of 240hp at 8300rpm and max torque of 207Nm at 7500rpm. It's the only car I've driven in which the rate of acceleration increases as you approach the red line. It's only 1997cc but has a power output of 125hp per litre, unmatched by any production car until the Ferrari 458. It does produce 93db of engine noise at full chat though, and that's measured inside the cabin![/quote]
how the hell does a car that light perform with 500hp.... that must be nuts.