Warning to a Z4 Prat!

[Grizzly9]

I can imagine the other guy's story had he chose to post .

"Going along a dual carriageway today with some prat on a motorbike hogging the outside lane. He wont move over and won't go above 60mph, like it's his responsibility to make everyone else adhere to the limit .
it's not as if he even seems interested in overtaking, I had no choice but to undertake to get past him, and then I was able to overtake the car in front.... yes there was that much room... why do they give these people a licence"

Every story has two sides.
might not be how it happened but he could have posted that first and the views would have been different.

I don't think you have read my post properly. If I'm doing 60mph and he's passed me and swerved in and around a car on the right hand lane, are you assuming I am also hogging the right hand lane? Not me son.

'Had no choice but to undertake to get past him' is gonna get laughed at in court, lane hogger or not.


Oh you're right, every story has two sides but only one set of facts.

 

[ben g]

i don't strictly undertake, but sit in the inside lane for miles due to idiots sitting in the middle (and outside) lanes of a local A road (3 lanes).

you wouldn't believe the times i've finished a night shift and done the whole journey (10 miles) in the inside lane, going past copius amounts of people sitting in the middle and outside lanes, trying to bully each other out of the way.

 

[Toe-side]

Its strange. Just back from the states where I would say the general level of concentration whilst driving is not as good as the UK (mandatory to drive while on a mobile!) However lane changing, undertaking etc. is executed fast, well and without agro . Its a funny old world :?
The roads are wider though :rofl:

 

[RubyBlueZ4MC]

I dislike lane 2 and 3 hoggers. Really I do. Especially lane 3 - so ridiculous.

 

[Toe-side]

Yes its a real frustration. Staying in the outside lane for longer than you need should be Banned!

 

[original guvnor]

Driving back from Leicester the other night on the M1 I saw more lane hoggers. This included one sitting in Lane 4 and several in Lane 3 on the 4 lane section between J25 and J29. There was hardly any traffic on the road. They drove for mile upon mile in their lane. I'm sorry but I'm not going to sit behind those prats for miles waiting for them to show some courtesy.

Having said all that, the type of driving the OP is describing is totally out of order. If traffic is heavy and people undertake and then weave in and weave out of lanes to gain a car or two then they deserve the flashing blue light in their rear view mirror.

 

[maxman]

Undertakers will eventually end up at the undertaker ,the trouble is the will take someone with them.
If you can't be bothered to move over to the overtaking lane you should not be driving. :evil:
If they don't move over,a quick blast on the horn or a light flash does the trick most of the time.

 

[original guvnor]

If you can't be bothered to move over to the overtaking lane you should not be driving. :evil:
If they don't move over,a quick blast on the horn or a light flash does the trick most of the time.

But it doesn't. The sort of prat who sits there in Lane 4 knows full well they are an arsehole. Hooting and flashing them is liable to make them drive even more like an arsehole. I undertook in Lane 1 when he was in Lane 4. I don't consider that dangerous at all. Driving behind him and flashing lights and horn is far more dangerous.

 

[Toe-side]

I think its a cultural thing peculiar to the UK

 

[ZedFourM]

The Highway Code is very explicit about driving on a multi-lane carriageway (https://www.gov.uk/general-rules-all-drivers-riders-103-to-158/multilane-carriageways-133-to-143):

137
On a two-lane dual carriageway you should stay in the left-hand lane. Use the right-hand lane for overtaking or turning right. After overtaking, move back to the left-hand lane when it is safe to do so.
138
On a three-lane dual carriageway, you may use the middle lane or the right-hand lane to overtake but return to the middle and then the left-hand lane when it is safe.

If people obeyed this and/or the police enforced it, then there would be no incentive or need for anybody to undertake!

 

[maxman]

If you can't be bothered to move over to the overtaking lane you should not be driving. :evil:
If they don't move over,a quick blast on the horn or a light flash does the trick most of the time.

But it doesn't. The sort of prat who sits there in Lane 4 knows full well they are an arsehole. Hooting and flashing them is liable to make them drive even more like an arsehole. I undertook in Lane 1 when he was in Lane 4. I don't consider that dangerous at all. Driving behind him and flashing lights and horn is far more dangerous.

I did not aim the comment at your post,it was meant for undertakers in lane one,instead of using either lane three or four

 

[original guvnor]

The Highway Code is very explicit about driving on a multi-lane carriageway (https://www.gov.uk/general-rules-all-drivers-riders-103-to-158/multilane-carriageways-133-to-143):

137
On a two-lane dual carriageway you should stay in the left-hand lane. Use the right-hand lane for overtaking or turning right. After overtaking, move back to the left-hand lane when it is safe to do so.
138
On a three-lane dual carriageway, you may use the middle lane or the right-hand lane to overtake but return to the middle and then the left-hand lane when it is safe.

If people obeyed this and/or the police enforced it, then there would be no incentive or need for anybody to undertake!

Agree with that 100%.

 

[Wondermike]

In urban areas and dual carriageways with plenty junctions, roundabouts and 40/50 speed limits then it's usually a free for all. You often get someone in the right hand lane because they are turning right in 5 miles time - sigh. But for me it's reasonable to use both lanes.

On the motorway or 60/70 limit, as others have said, *generally* if you can be undertaken then you haven't moved over to the left quick enough.

 

[Toe-side]

Spot on!

 

[Grizzly9]

were abouts do you live, im in merrow and drive a 2004 sterling gray

My g/f lives at the end of Kingfisher drive, Merrow Hill or Bushy Hill or Bushy Merrow????? `I actually live near Portsmouth.

 

[sars]

Driving back from Leicester the other night on the M1 I saw more lane hoggers. This included one sitting in Lane 4 and several in Lane 3 on the 4 lane section between J25 and J29. There was hardly any traffic on the road. They drove for mile upon mile in their lane. I'm sorry but I'm not going to sit behind those prats for miles waiting for them to show some courtesy.

Having said all that, the type of driving the OP is describing is totally out of order. If traffic is heavy and people undertake and then weave in and weave out of lanes to gain a car or two then they deserve the flashing blue light in their rear view mirror.

I do this stretch every week, it's unbelievable how many drivers sit in lane 3 & 4 when 1 & 2 are empty. As for undertaking I do it a lot, mainly because I'm sick and tired of doing the 1-3-1 routine, it's done though on one proviso, that there is a lane to my left.

As for the legality, once had a chat with a senior traffic officer about this very thing, his response was that its not actually illegal to pass on the left, however weaving in and out of traffic can be classed as dangerous driving.

 

[the cueball]

Undertakers will eventually end up at the undertaker

Wooooo... Hate to break this to you, but everyone ends up at the undertakers...

Rest of you post was utter nonsense too....

 

[nightyard]

This is funny...thread complaining about an undertaker because some cunttend is sat in a lane they should not be in.....
:headbang:

Really bothers me when people sit in the middle lane...if it were safe to do so id flash constantly and beep my horn at them and then middle finger them as I have to undertake them.....BUT as I am a safe road user...I just swear at them to myself and go from lane 1 to 3 to go around the cretins

 

[Quadracer]

I think it depends on the situation and the amount of traffic. Flashing lights or a blast on the horn is the legal thing to do but can encourage road rage from the lane hogger. I also disagree with tailgating. This can annoy the driver too and they'll just stay there longer. Just buy a yellow car and they all move out of the way anyway

 

[jonnyfive]

I pretty much drive in the fast lane on the speed limit when it's busy and If anyone comes up behind me I just move over for them because as like a lot of knobs on the motor way I check my mirrors regularly , but if very quiet I drive in the slow lane just makes sence to me . It's just good driving , middle lane sleepers do my head in .