vaccine passports
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Not much i suppose but how many people would be willing to hand over their phone for the evening so their mate/relative can go out? I'm sure their will be a bit of abuse of the system but when isn't that the case for anything with some elements?
Out of curiosity, I downloaded the NHS App the day after my second jab and it was already recorded.
It would be easy to ask at check in, to show the two jabs on the App as it does not show any other personal data, just the dates of each jab and what vaccine you were given. Very impressed although it was a faff to download the App because of the security aspect of making sure you were who you claim to be.
I suspect however they will just issue everyone who has had both jabs with a bar code which is added the App. Simply scan the barcode the same way you scan a boarding pass and if the details of both match, bingo, you can fly, if not PCR test at circa £120 per shot and a 24 hour wait for the result.
It would be your choice and would not discriminate against anyone who did not or could not have the vaccine.
It would be easy to ask at check in, to show the two jabs on the App as it does not show any other personal data, just the dates of each jab and what vaccine you were given. Very impressed although it was a faff to download the App because of the security aspect of making sure you were who you claim to be.
I suspect however they will just issue everyone who has had both jabs with a bar code which is added the App. Simply scan the barcode the same way you scan a boarding pass and if the details of both match, bingo, you can fly, if not PCR test at circa £120 per shot and a 24 hour wait for the result.
It would be your choice and would not discriminate against anyone who did not or could not have the vaccine.
I have no issue with a Covid app or passport, we will have to buy visas to travel into Europe now and will have to show them before boarding flights, so no issues with a Covid app, for entry into pubs etc. again if you want to gain entry then you should have no issues in showing.
If you cant have the jab then I am sure the NHS can provide this data via the app so you want be discriminated against.
If you cant have the jab then I am sure the NHS can provide this data via the app so you want be discriminated against.
Discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen. A simply awful, authoritarian and Orwellian concept 
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:thumbsdown:gov said:
I'm sure there will be people able to exploit loopholes like that but I don't think we should let perfect be the enemy of the good. Not everyone will be comfortable with it but I think it was always inevitable. The world has changed and this could be an important tool in our fight against the virus.
ihadablackdog
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I support some form of vaccine passport for those that have had it, but not sure on the best way to do it.
What happens to people who can’t have the vaccine? It’s discriminatory against them.....but at the same time, it would mean allowing unvaccinated people to fly etc, which might be against the whole point.
What about the people that just don’t want it? Personally I say that if someone refuses the jab, then no passport is one of the consequences, but that opens a can of worms.
And it would need to apply to people flying here as well surely?
Just make it safe for me and Deb to fly to Florida
What happens to people who can’t have the vaccine? It’s discriminatory against them.....but at the same time, it would mean allowing unvaccinated people to fly etc, which might be against the whole point.
What about the people that just don’t want it? Personally I say that if someone refuses the jab, then no passport is one of the consequences, but that opens a can of worms.
And it would need to apply to people flying here as well surely?
Just make it safe for me and Deb to fly to Florida
Attleborough, Norfolk
All these authoritarian folk advocating preventing people that aren't vaccinated from flying.... surely if you are vaccinated you have nothing to worry about, isnt that the whole point? :?
Flyingfifer said:
I think the central point is that its not just about the vaccinated, but others who are yet to be vaccinated being put at risk by the unvaccinated flying about. Also worth remembering that the vaccine is not 100% effective but it does significantly reduce the liklihood of transmission. Therefore, for both reasons, the unvaccinated pose a greater risk and many countries are responding by introducing vaccine passports - makes perfect sense to me
Lots if throwing around of this vaccination and how it "significantly reduces the likelihood of transmission" not seen any evidence to that effect, what are you basing it on?
Someone who has had covid will also have the same protection as someone with a vaccine through natural immunity how will that be tracked?
Also how long will these immoral "passports" be valid? We have evidence that suggests that the vaccines are already losing their efficacy, will your "passport" need to be renewed every 4/6/8 or 12 months?
Someone who has had covid will also have the same protection as someone with a vaccine through natural immunity how will that be tracked?
Also how long will these immoral "passports" be valid? We have evidence that suggests that the vaccines are already losing their efficacy, will your "passport" need to be renewed every 4/6/8 or 12 months?
ihadablackdog
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Flyingfifer said:
No ones saying it’s perfect....nobody knows the long term effects of any of this, but, speaking for myself, I believe Covid is a real risk (there are plenty of people who disagree, I’m not saying you are one of those) and because I believe it is a risk, I want every chance available to me to avoid catching it, or if the best on offer is a way to hopefully reduce its effect if I do catch it, then I’m taking that with both hands.
No one knows if the vaccine reduces transmission or gives long term “protection” or will need boosters but I’m going with what’s currently available.
If people chose not to have the vaccine, then that is their choice, but I don’t agree that they should be allowed to continue to risk the transmission by going back to life as usual.
But, the more people that get vaccinated should mean it’s less prevalent and if a vaccinated person does catch it, then hopefully they won’t have the drastic effects that lots of people have had.
If someone declines the vaccine, should they get treatment if they get ill? (Fcuk, I’ve opened a can of worms now).
The only moral dilemma I have is for people who can’t have the vaccine (I don’t know the details on reasons). Technically my above comments about not going back to normal could apply to them also, but I agree that is grossly unfair on them.
Have you had the vaccine or will you have it when offered (if you can)?
We have had this argument before and there is no discrimination as the choice is yours. Nobody is being forced to have the jab. It's just like having your National Passport. You can have it or choose not to but by choosing not to have it you have self imposed restrictions like not being able to leave the UK. Can't recall anyone successfully suing anyone.Flyingfifer said:Discrimination lawsuit waiting to happen. A simply awful, authoritarian and Orwellian concept
You P****d a lot of people off in another post with your anti Vaccine theories. Why can't you just stick to that one.
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