UKPC - fined for parking over line ...

Just starting off on the same process with UKPC. Fortunately I already know the form and will ignore, ignore and ignore. Sick to death of the petty parking "rules" in the UK be it private or council. I also find it unreal how so many are prepared to pay a "fine" of a £100 for daring to park in contravention of some inconsequential dictate. Jeez why do we accept crap this nowadays! If it's a private company tell them to get stuffed! :evil:[/quote]

my ex boss ended up in court over somthing like this, the magistrate fined him £175 or summat like that as its the max they could[/quote]

Great, I'll see them in court, the T***ers screwed up the dates on all the letters they sent me so that none of it makes any sense. Is this the look of a worried man? :P Bring it on.
 
My friend is a police Sergent and he keeps getting letters from a similar company, he told me last week that they have no legal right to take any money from him, the wording in their correspondence to him says things like ' we may have to pass this onto our solicitors if you don't pay by........' I asked what he's going to do and he said ignore them, he's adamant they have no legal right to fine him.
 
Been through the exact same BS. Not worth the hassle, your fine will double when you decide you've had enough and want it to go away. Just pay the f&#king thing. :(
 
toolmanchris said:
Please be carefull. I had a similar thing with stopping on the service roads at the local airport. Was served with a "Fine" of £100 for parking but the latest advice is not to ignore these things.
Try searching on the MoneySavingExpert site as there is lots of information on there. I am currently appealing to the Parking companys trade association as apparently they are getting braver and actually taking some people to small claims court and sending baliff's etc
Dont want to be a scaremonger but please be sure of your facts before deciding to ignore :)
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Just got the decision back from the appeal and it has been upheld so nothing to pay. Hope you have managed to get it sorted :)
 
Still waiting, it is in the first stage of appealing against UKPC. They take their time to reject it, then I will have to go to step 2.
 
Geezah said:
What a fantastic country we live in! That's why everybody wants to come and live here! :D
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I'm pretty sure that Parking Eye will fall down when it comes to tracing Polish, Latvian, Bulgarian registered cars... So yeah, another plus for immigration, no parking fines to pay, ever :lol:
 
toolmanchris said:
toolmanchris said:
Please be carefull. I had a similar thing with stopping on the service roads at the local airport. Was served with a "Fine" of £100 for parking but the latest advice is not to ignore these things.
Try searching on the MoneySavingExpert site as there is lots of information on there. I am currently appealing to the Parking companys trade association as apparently they are getting braver and actually taking some people to small claims court and sending baliff's etc
Dont want to be a scaremonger but please be sure of your facts before deciding to ignore :)
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Just got the decision back from the appeal and it has been upheld so nothing to pay. Hope you have managed to get it sorted :)
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What was the main appeal reason which won it? My reading of those websites seems to boil down to the actual loss element.
 
"Soft" appeal to UKPC rejected (no surprises), so drafting the POPLA response now.

That costs UKPC £27 as well ...
 
ut745 said:
Some companies back off but others don't. Sometimes (depending on the amount of the fine) it's better to just pay it.

At the end of the day if you are in the wrong then just pay it. Some may say thats giving in to these bullies but I wouldn't want to deal with the hassle of bailiffs and potential court action over £50 or so (I know your fine is more significant at £100).

Having said that, I did previously ignore their threats and it went away but since the rules changed, my next ticket was harder to avoid paying with UKPC.

They had clear evidence that I didnt park in a proper bay (my fault obviously) so I just gave in and paid it. Easier than wasting my time searching around forums for excuses not to pay (it was only £35).

Whatever you do, good luck but don't stress yourself about it! :thumbsup:
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its like a game of poker, but you folded ! you cant say what would have happened if you fronted them out, dont pay these monkeys , just ignore them they will go away,eventually, in fact you will see that they start offering you reduced fines as a last resort before legal action, its all bollox i would never pay.
 
This link explains what options are open to you in most scenarios - may be of help .

Good Luck.



http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/search.htm?query=parking
 
These things are 'invoices' in law not 'fines' therefore we are talking about breach of contract if they chose to pursue you seriously. It's not fundamentally about proving a loss but more that a contract existed between the parties (ie the driver and the landowner) and then that the terms of that contract were breached. If they manage to get that far then it may be about demonstrable loss or at least proving the quantum claimed under the contract was reasonable under the circumstances, but for a contact to exist there has to be evidence of an offer and subsequent acceptance (ie you saw and read and understood the sign with the Ts and Cs and then chose to park rather than leave) so quite difficult for them to get this far in reality as before they can even begin the process they have to identify the driver they claim to have made the contract with.

I believe private landowners do have the legal right to obtain the registered keeper's details and request information relating to the driver at the time of the alleged breach of contract but the whole process can be costly and time consuming and most of these companies survive on the income raised from high volumes of automated threatening letters that they can knock out at little cost which many people chose to comply with out of ignorance or fear.

If you do chose to reply you could simply deny knowingly entering into any such contract with them and hence not recognise the invoice as lawful. You could then offer to correspond with them further on the matter should they so wish and state your terms for this service as say £60 per letter if they reply within 14 days or £100 per letter thereafter.

I'd rather eat out of bins than earn a living like them. :thumbsdown:
 
GreyZed said:
If you do chose to reply you could simply deny knowingly entering into any such contract with them and hence not recognise the invoice as lawful. You could then offer to correspond with them further on the matter should they so wish and state your terms for this service as say £60 per letter if they reply within 14 days or £100 per letter thereafter
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Brilliant :lol:
 
Paul,

As you know my daughters a lawyer and knows this stuff inside out. In fact did all the research through proper legal channels (not the web) and won an appeal for mrsCJ a couple of months back (only entered part registration is a pay machine, parked correctly and fully paid).

You're doing the right thing by going though appeals process, but if you lose pay it, which I know you will. Sadly much of the stuff posted in the thread above is historic or keyboard warrior comment and while well intended, just ends up creating a much bigger bill to pay.

They can, will and do take people to court these days. Win most of the time and just rack up the costs that you end up paying.
On a pragmatic note while I hate these companies, life's too short to end up in court trying to fight £100, which in effect is probably an hour's work - well for you :)
 
Nuke said:
If thats the case, how have the people on here that igonered the threats, then got away with it?
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Historic, prior to change of law, hardening of attitudes by parking companies, etc.
Lots of reasons
 
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