Tyranny in Aus

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Old-Duckman said:
I have listened to various people in charge in Australia making what I would consider tyrannical remarks. Of course biden has said and done similar. The whole world is in turmoil...mostly one that has been planned for some time now and once an opportune moment arrived (also planned) their devious plans are now able to be instituted.

Hold on brothers...the ride is only going to get wilder from now on. Stash food, ammo and firearms (if your location allows such)...and Hold on!!

Seriously, you need some professional help if that’s what you’re thinking.
Rob
 
Smartbear said:
Old-Duckman said:
I have listened to various people in charge in Australia making what I would consider tyrannical remarks. Of course biden has said and done similar. The whole world is in turmoil...mostly one that has been planned for some time now and once an opportune moment arrived (also planned) their devious plans are now able to be instituted.

Hold on brothers...the ride is only going to get wilder from now on. Stash food, ammo and firearms (if your location allows such)...and Hold on!!

Seriously, you need some professional help if that’s what you’re thinking.
Rob

No, no Rob, he's right!
He should immediately climb down into his bunker, lock the door and STAY THERE! :rofl:
 
Stevo1987 said:
Nanu said:
I have a friend living in Sydney who says he is being treated like prisoners. Police helicopters flying over parks and beaches telling those out exercising to go home or be fined. Police checking if coffee cups actually have coffee in them when people are removing their masks sitting on a park bench with a drink. Doesn't sound like somewhere I want to live anymore.
Sounds like a police state......ah, well they are used that being mostly being decedents of convicts.

Isn’t it still a penal colony then :D
 
Old-Duckman said:
I know that most of you have been jabbed. I will reuse to the death to do so.

You going to keep reusing the syringe once empty? :rofl:

Did you give up your car when seat belts became mandatory?
 
rdgreen said:
ROFLMAO. That's original....never heard that one before.....and it's decendants not decedents. Just as well you can't be transported for spelling.

The irony is strong in this one :rofl:

Could we borrow some of your cops for the M25 protesters please?
 
Well I did vote for Trump but I am not bitter. Biden is a puppet and who knows who is pulling his strings. He seems to be doing everything thing he can to destroy our country.

As to my mental stability...oh well think whatever you wish. Frankly I don’t care what you think about me but as I have said in more than one post, time will tell.

I’m sure that I watch and read videos and articles that few of you do. Hold on tight then because here is what I have seen, read and quite frankly believe.

This whole Covid thing is a plandemic and has multiple purposes two of which are to gain control of the world population and secondly to decrease the population. The “vaccine” also destroys your immune system, one reason that never ending boosters will be needed. Sounds crazy, sure, but withhold judgment and see what happens this winter (flu season). Supposedly death rates will skyrocket and will, of course, be blamed on the unvaccinated. Hopefully that will not be the case, I would love for the people I listen to, to be wrong. But,once again, time will tell.

As to hiding out in a bunker...Well our glorious CDC has documents detailing how “green zones “ are to be run and have placed ads for people to man such places. The stated purpose of these facilities is to quarantine citizens when local quarantines are inadequate. Sounds totally innocent, right? Many believe that martial law is not too far from becoming reality. Vaccine passports, scanning QR codes to enter an establishment, mask mandates etc. Are these really for protecting citizens health or are they more about control. Fear has been used since time immemorial to control people, this is no different and nothing new.

Yesterday the FDA recommended allowing 5 to 11 year old children be vaccinated. Children have powerful immune systems and have virtually a100% recovery rate from Covid symptoms, yet they want to jab them...You call me insane...? Vaccinating children that young for a disease that they would in all probability survive, now that IS insane. If long term studies had been conducted and the vaccine was actually proven safe and effective, well okay maybe. But in reality, the children, and all of the vaccinated, are part of the largest experiment ever conducted on humans. I refuse to be a subject for Big Pharma.

There are drugs that are effective for prevention and treatment of Covid symptoms yet our government has demonized and restricted these. Why?

Again I sincerely wish you all well and good health. I’m sure that you think you are taking steps to ensure you health...as am I.
 
[ref]Old-Duckman[/ref], It's hard to know where to start with the above, really it is.

However I think this pretty much covers your thought processes.

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enuff_zed said:
Old-Duckman said:
I’m sure that I watch and read videos and articles that few of you do.
There's probably a very good reason why that is so. :roll:

I think this quote from another forum where we have the UK equivalent of [ref]Old-Duckman[/ref], sums it up rather well.

"I read this post on the internet and it reinforces my bigoted views... So it must be true..."
 
mgrlane said:
Interesting to hear another perspective [ref]rdgreen[/ref],

You are right in the sense that I don't know any born Australians but I do have a number of friends from University who have made their way over there (and now have permanent residency) and a number of former workmates who made the move over there within the last 10 years or so.

I don't know anyone in South Australia nor Adelaide (which by the way looks a lovely place). Majority of my mates are in NSW in either Sydney or Melbourne.

They paint a slightly different picture to what you do. I am not going to get into the politics (which I think is as bad as the brutality) but here is a perspective that you may not have seen.

Without spending more that 10 minutes on this I will put a couple of links below to show you why perhaps people outside of your circle think that things might night be right over there- and perhaps you could forgive us from thinking it's tyranny- I would love to get your view point and on face value if you think they are acceptable behaviour?

PLEASE NOTE---- SOME OF THESE LINK ARE UNPLEASENT AND THERE IS POLICE VIOLENCE----- RONK - do not open them with your grandchildren on your lap.

Assault of a Woman
https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1441500070222782467?s=20

Heavy handed on an unarmed chap who is not resisting:
https://twitter.com/NowMediaScott/status/1443610095057780737?s=20

Kicking people when they are down
https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1441298238997340160?s=20

Attacking a man from behind- body slamming his head into the floor:
https://twitter.com/Bhabanisankar02/status/1441000573038252033?s=20

Pushing a 77 year old women to the ground where the back of her head hits the floor and pepper spraying her:
https://twitter.com/charles_haig01/status/1439335234860814336?s=20

Running a guy over and kicking him in the back of the head
https://twitter.com/Terrence_STR/status/1305687216933527552?s=20

This was just a quick search but honestly there is loads more incidents of cruel and oppressive government.... And we haven't even brought up the on going ICAC investigations out there.

Let me be clear...I'm no fan of the police, unfortunately they are a necessary evil. I would agree, that on the face of it, excessive force appears to have been used in a number of those circumstances. Then again what was the lead up to the video that caused such violence to be used? Hopefully, when the dust settles, there will be a reckoning of what has happened. Unfortunately police violence is not confined to any one country and You Tube is full of video's displaying police violence from the UK as well, and clearly the UK is not under any sort of tyrannical regime, so lets keep it in perspective. Unfortunately when you train police in military procedures, give them access to firearms and dress them in "combat" gear there is potential for some of them to act accordingly.
 
rdgreen said:
Stevo1987 said:
Nanu said:
I have a friend living in Sydney who says he is being treated like prisoners. Police helicopters flying over parks and beaches telling those out exercising to go home or be fined. Police checking if coffee cups actually have coffee in them when people are removing their masks sitting on a park bench with a drink. Doesn't sound like somewhere I want to live anymore.
Sounds like a police state......ah, well they are used that being mostly being decedents of convicts.

ROFLMAO. That's original....never heard that one before.....and it's decendants not decedents. Just as well you can't be transported for spelling. :P
My niece lives within 20 metres of the PM's home in Sydney and most of what your friend says is true.....when 30-40 "friends" get together for a "coffee", when crowds are specifically not allowed in a pandemic, the cops get stroppy.
Sorry, I meant to do this...... :poke: Aussies never let you down when you mention convicts. :D Anyway, it is "descendants" so we both can't spell. :driving:
 
rdgreen said:
Let me be clear...I'm no fan of the police, unfortunately they are a necessary evil. I would agree, that on the face of it, excessive force appears to have been used in a number of those circumstances. Then again what was the lead up to the video that caused such violence to be used? Hopefully, when the dust settles, there will be a reckoning of what has happened. Unfortunately police violence is not confined to any one country and You Tube is full of video's displaying police violence from the UK as well, and clearly the UK is not under any sort of tyrannical regime, so lets keep it in perspective. Unfortunately when you train police in military procedures, give them access to firearms and dress them in "combat" gear there is potential for some of them to act accordingly.

Fair play Mr Green.

You think the above is ok and normal- I would suggest that most of the Western world has a different view of it. I think I have seen various bits and bobs of abuse of power in the UK but nothing comparable to all of the links I put on here happened in the last two months!

Even in the last 24 hours Dan Andrews is trying to rush through legislation unscrutinised- you really can't make this stuff up.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/daniel-andrews-defends-pandemic-laws-as-polls-show-labors-primary-vote-has-dropped/news-story/61d0a54fa2d3b6aa0b4f3b89e966ce46

What is your opinion on the above? Could you comprehend why people outside of your circle in Adelaide might be questioning what the "F" is going on over there?
 
rdgreen said:
Stevo1987 said:
Nanu said:
I have a friend living in Sydney who says he is being treated like prisoners. Police helicopters flying over parks and beaches telling those out exercising to go home or be fined. Police checking if coffee cups actually have coffee in them when people are removing their masks sitting on a park bench with a drink. Doesn't sound like somewhere I want to live anymore.
Sounds like a police state......ah, well they are used that being mostly being decedents of convicts.

ROFLMAO. That's original....never heard that one before.....and it's decendants not decedents. Just as well you can't be transported for spelling. :P
My niece lives within 20 metres of the PM's home in Sydney and most of what your friend says is true.....when 30-40 "friends" get together for a "coffee", when crowds are specifically not allowed in a pandemic, the cops get stroppy.

We live about 1km from the PM’s official residence and we’ve seen almost no policing of the health orders since March of 2020. Large groups of people without masks gathered in our local parks throughout the lockdown and went unchallenged.
The areas of Sydney that saw an increased police presence and where a curfew was enforced are the poorest areas with the most deprived members of society and the largest non-English speaking refugee populations.
The NSW state government were extremely tardy in their response to the delta variant and mismanaged many aspects of the ensuing crisis. However, I saw very little evidence of tyranny, rather plenty of political gamesmanship by a government seeking to curry favour with big business. Perhaps if I lived in South West Sydney, spoke little English and had fled tyranny in another country I might have a different perspective.
 
mgrlane said:
Interesting to hear another perspective [ref]rdgreen[/ref],

You are right in the sense that I don't know any born Australians but I do have a number of friends from University who have made their way over there (and now have permanent residency) and a number of former workmates who made the move over there within the last 10 years or so.

I don't know anyone in South Australia nor Adelaide (which by the way looks a lovely place). Majority of my mates are in NSW in either Sydney or Melbourne.

They paint a slightly different picture to what you do. I am not going to get into the politics (which I think is as bad as the brutality) but here is a perspective that you may not have seen.

Without spending more that 10 minutes on this I will put a couple of links below to show you why perhaps people outside of your circle think that things might night be right over there- and perhaps you could forgive us from thinking it's tyranny- I would love to get your view point and on face value if you think they are acceptable behaviour?

PLEASE NOTE---- SOME OF THESE LINK ARE UNPLEASENT AND THERE IS POLICE VIOLENCE----- RONK - do not open them with your grandchildren on your lap.

Assault of a Woman
https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1441500070222782467?s=20

Heavy handed on an unarmed chap who is not resisting:
https://twitter.com/NowMediaScott/status/1443610095057780737?s=20

Kicking people when they are down
https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1441298238997340160?s=20

Attacking a man from behind- body slamming his head into the floor:
https://twitter.com/Bhabanisankar02/status/1441000573038252033?s=20

Pushing a 77 year old women to the ground where the back of her head hits the floor and pepper spraying her:
https://twitter.com/charles_haig01/status/1439335234860814336?s=20

Running a guy over and kicking him in the back of the head
https://twitter.com/Terrence_STR/status/1305687216933527552?s=20

This was just a quick search but honestly there is loads more incidents of cruel and oppressive government.... And we haven't even brought up the on going ICAC investigations out there.

The NSW Police are extremely aggressive as a default, and brutal in how they control perceived criminals. The examples shown all related to breaches of COVID health orders, but similar behaviour is often reported during almost any confrontation between police and the public. There seems to be little accountability here, especially when compared with how the British police force is regulated.
 
enuff_zed said:
On the brighter side, it seems Pennsylvanian bunkers aren't connected to the internet. :thumbsup: :D

Yet. Probably the fault of the darned govment stealing the wifi out of the air for big pharma to use in mind control implants.
 
BMWZ4MC said:
The NSW Police are extremely aggressive as a default, and brutal in how they control perceived criminals. The examples shown all related to breaches of COVID health orders, but similar behaviour is often reported during almost any confrontation between police and the public. There seems to be little accountability here, especially when compared with how the British police force is regulated.

Is that just how they are out there buddy? Have they always been like it? I assumed that it was a new direction that Dictator Dan had taken them recently in.

It amazing how desensitised you Ozzies are to them kicking over someones Grandma and spraying her in the face and dumping another human on his face un-provoked whilst tackling him from behind.

I don't particularly begrudge a few punches when tackling someone to the ground (my dad was a copper- I get what it's like). But pre-pandemic I thought you guys were chill as fcuk. The picture that you have painted (collective and not the individual) is the realities are you are much closer to your Chinese cousins both in land mass and values.
 
mgrlane said:
BMWZ4MC said:
The NSW Police are extremely aggressive as a default, and brutal in how they control perceived criminals. The examples shown all related to breaches of COVID health orders, but similar behaviour is often reported during almost any confrontation between police and the public. There seems to be little accountability here, especially when compared with how the British police force is regulated.

Is that just how they are out there buddy? Have they always been like it? I assumed that it was a new direction that Dictator Dan had taken them recently in.

It amazing how desensitised you Ozzies are to them kicking over someones Grandma and spraying her in the face and dumping another human on his face un-provoked whilst tackling him from behind.

I don't particularly begrudge a few punches when tackling someone to the ground (my dad was a copper- I get what it's like). But pre-pandemic I thought you guys were chill as fcuk. The picture that you have painted (collective and not the individual) is the realities are you are much closer to your Chinese cousins both in land mass and values.
I’m not an Aussie, I’m English, and I am far from desensitised. I think it’s utterly disgraceful that a civilised country allows its public servants to behave in such a fashion unchecked, regardless of the perceived guilt of the person being arrested. Getting a little roughed up if you resist arrest is very different from an aggressive, unilateral assault sanctioned by a uniform.
A friend of mine grew up in Slovakia during the aftermath of communist rule. She has lived and worked in dozens of countries around the world and has immersed herself in the local society in each. She works for an international bank and is not a criminal. She lived in Sydney for two years and left in 2018 because the “Australian police state” reminded her too much of the land of her childhood. The Australian state is far from “chill as fcuk” and that attitude extends beyond just the police and government.
 
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