Toyota GT86

I think this thing in the U.S. is a scion. It's not terrible looking but it's starting price is cheap, like under 23000 dollars. So I can see where the interior is cheap.
I paid a guys loan off on a new scion tc after he was booted from the navy. That car was terrible and was sold off quickly.
 
I believe you're correct it's called the Scion FR-S in the US. At $23K then it would be a bargain in the UK as that's only £14.5K at today's exchange rate.
 
So the conclusion appears to be that this car makes sense in nearly every country apart from the UK where it is priced to sit with cars that are simply better in every department. Unfortunate.
 
Not sure I get you Adamski. Aren't Golf GTi's stupidly expensive? I know the mk5 was.

I just checked the lease prices on the Toyota. Around £500 per month with 6 months up front. They are clearly expecting pretty heavy depreciation.
 
Mowflow said:
Not sure I get you Adamski. Aren't Golf GTi's stupidly expensive? I know the mk5 was.

I just checked the lease prices on the Toyota. Around £500 per month with 6 months up front. They are clearly expecting pretty heavy depreciation.

That's not a very good lease deal for that price of car. As you say, the accountants must have a very pessimistic view of the re-sale values in three years.
 
Has anyone actually seen one of these in the metal? they're actually pretty striking and much better than pics would suggest.

If anything reliability is pretty much guaranteed :)

Tim.
 
TitanTim said:
Has anyone actually seen one of these in the metal? they're actually pretty striking and much better than pics would suggest.

If anything reliability is pretty much guaranteed :)

Tim.

Yep seen several.

One in red parked locally, one in white with black stripes driving outside my office, and one at the Toyota dealership I visited yesterday.

I like the styling personally.
 
Mowflow said:
Not sure I get you Adamski. Aren't Golf GTi's stupidly expensive? I know the mk5 was.

I just checked the lease prices on the Toyota. Around £500 per month with 6 months up front. They are clearly expecting pretty heavy depreciation.

£20k starting price... which is a lot, but still £7k cheaper than the GT86, and quicker too
 
Here's my grizzle. Kia used to make cars that at a glance would confuse you with a Mercedes c or e class circa 2000-2003. But they're all ratty junky cars.
The frs looks like the Lexus jfa but will obviously disappoint. I personally wouldn't want to drive a car with alligator mouth and humming bird ass.
 
Golf GTI has a starting price £25,650 for 3 door manual on VW's website. Cars are getting more expensive. Yes Golf's are a bit boring (had 6 of them, but I'm an accountant!), but as a direct price comparison to the Toyota I'd be boring again and choose the Golf
 
Resudual's on the GT86 are pretty high,it is expected to have a strong following on the 2nd hand market in 2/3 years time.Don't forget,it's design brief was to be light and nimble.It is, I've driven one around Donington, it was great to drive.Plenty of usable power, strong brakes and lovely steering.It's not all about bhp.How anyone can compare it to the Peugeot thing is amazing, that's front wheel drive for a start, pretty,but still fwd. Go take a decent test drive, you'll see what the journo's are on about.
 
there is one parked outside my local gym by Toyota

absolute pile of shíte, i think it already looks 5 years old
 
It's always a tough one ,selling a new car to car enthusiasts.As a breed we want the biggest bang for our buck so we'll look at a £ 30k new car and immediately look at what we could get on the second hand market for that money. We tend to have champagne tastes with beer incomes when it comes to our motors,we always want that piece of exotica we can't afford, so lust after it on the 2nd hand market. I'd love a really nice 911 Turbo,BUT, I'd need the mother of all bank loans to afford it and realistically couldn't afford to run it either.Doesn't stop me talking about them of wanting them.On the track, the GT86 was matching my Z4 speeds down craner curves and wasn't anywhere near as much of a handful as it did it either.Also, I don't think it's expensive, look how much you can spec a RR evoque to , @£50k, and that's only a freelander in a posh frock.Think, nearly 200 break, very low weight, lower COG than a Boxter,4 seats,ideal weight distribution, very sweet handling,even sweeter steering,perfect driving position,40 mpg if you don't boot it too much,5 year warranty,affordable servicing,good resuduals,guranteed reliability,good dealer network,PLUS a load of factory approved ( Toyota Racing Developments) goodies coming to a dealer soon to make it look really sexy. Trying to persuade Mrs bigshurv to have one instead of her Yaris.Would keep the Z though.
 
Reminds me of a 350z!... but not as nice.

Personal preference of course but I dislike the styling and find the interior shameful.

These specs aren't anything special either and lacks 40bhp!

Fuel consumption (urban) 27.2 mpg
Fuel consumption (extra urban) 44.1 mpg
Fuel consumption (combined) 36.2 mpg
0 - 62 mph 7.6 seconds
Top speed 140 mph
Cylinders 4
Valves 16 v
Engine power 200 bhp
Engine torque 151 lbs/ft

Rant over.
 
Well I've just taken a test drive in a GT86. Forget styling or interior plastic etc. This car really made me smile therefore purpose fulfilled.

Great torque (surprisingly), more than enough speed, very very light chassis, comfortable while still handles, but the sound is awesome. Just lovely.

Very impressed.

They have a limited edition TRD too with body kit and individually stitched leather interior, looks lovely.

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Maniac said:
Well I've just taken a test drive in a GT86. Forget styling or interior plastic etc. This car really made me smile therefore purpose fulfilled.

Great torque (surprisingly), more than enough speed, very very light chassis, comfortable while still handles, but the sound is awesome. Just lovely.

Very impressed.

They have a limited edition TRD too with body kit and individually stitched leather interior, looks lovely.

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Glad you liked it :thumbsup: I have read a lot of things about the engine being very ordinary & it not having much torque...just goes to show its not worth reading about cars it's better to just get behind the wheel to see for yourself, I must admit when I look at the specs it doesn't really get my juices flowing, but respect it as a RWD fun car :)
 
Craigza said:
These specs aren't anything special either and lacks 40bhp!

That's the whole point of this car, to show that you don't always need loads of power to create an enjoyable, and thrill delivering drive.
 
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