To good to be True? Why is 3.0si more ££ than M?

tomscott said:
Well I have the best of both worlds then rite... live in a beautiful place, have a really nice sandstone victorian semi with a separate garage, have the best driving roads and the car to exploit it.

Reading things like this makes me want to move north and get some value for money
 
If you want reliability, you'd be better with a 3.0se as the M54 engine has fewer reliability issues than the N52 in the 3.0si.

Given the number Z3m, Z4m and M3s with the S54 engine, I'd say yhe lump is well proven. There are hundreds of M3s out there with 70-80k on them. So me, with my measly 23k, has a ways to go before I start worrying.

I do wish it had a better gearbox though. It occasionally pisses me right off.
 
D6GMB said:
One of the mods should close this discussion,so fecking boring :!: :roll: .

I think everyone should get back to the fecking point of the OP starting this thread rather than waving their willies around...
 
Dreamer said:
The 3.0si wasnt 'designed' for people that didnt want a hardcore drivers machine, it came before the M. They didnt down-design the M. The M was a later project to cater for that small market and to generate brand image primarily. M's arent there bread and butter as we all know.

3.0si and ///M were released at the same time, both being facelift models. :wink:
 
They are very different cars. I'm a big fan of the N52 engine, but the S54 is on another planet. The M really is SO much better to hussle along, much stiffer body, decent throttle response.

TBH, I didn't drive an M until last year, having been put off by earlier experiences of the 3ltr (both engines), and especially the Alpina. I didn't find any of them fun to punt along a twisty road.

Whilst not for everyone, the M is pretty special. Frickin bargain at the moment :driving:
 
I think we are on topic helping the op to decide.
Yummy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj1Zf0rPhAA&nomobile=1
 
We all been on the angry juice today???

At present all Z4s seem pretty good value for money. THe 'M's in particular due to the additional running costs.

Buying one with an 'M' on the boot ( or hatchback :poke: ) is really an emotional decision. You're a petrolhead, it's your hobby and interest, you bore others with tales of BHP, brakes, ring times, 0-60 blah blah... It's an iconic badge on premium brand, very fast, great looking and if you get the chance to own one you should take it. :)
 
This :

srhutch said:
These things happen once in a while, the boss will sort them out.

Followed by this :

Wondermike said:
Dreamer said:
I'll send you a pic of my girlfriends t1ts to see if they're bigger than your birds :poke: .
In the interests of moderating the forum, please CC me in on both submissions :P

dgm said:
What's happening to this forum?
Just a rare off-day :thumbsup:

= classic :thumbsup:

Can't wait till we have at least one discussion like this in the Lakes - do you think we'd end up with Handbags at Dawn, or a proper punch-up ?
 
flimper said:
tomscott said:
Well I have the best of both worlds then rite... live in a beautiful place, have a really nice sandstone victorian semi with a separate garage, have the best driving roads and the car to exploit it.

Reading things like this makes me want to move north and get some value for money

Sarcasm from me... from the previous bs comment. Sorry to all parties and to degrade the convo, but sometimes you have to stand up for yourself :thumbsup:
 
Thanks for all your replies chaps. As someone asked earlier I've come from MX-5 to S2000 to Boxster S. The MX-5 is great although underpowered, s2000 I liked but WAY to peaky, I found almost all of the power unusable most of the time). Boxster S is as good as it gets, the chassis could easily handle another 40bhp but is sublime. My only issue with it was it was just too easy to drive. I know lots of people say it but it's true, it doesn't ever feel dangerous even when pushing it because the car is simply too composed. The M is the only car I have found in terms speed/noise/handling that thrilled me in the same way as a TVR (almost). The 3.0si roadster I drove was nice, smooth, powerful etc but the runflats are unforgivably awful and the electronic steering is worse still, steering which gets lighter the faster you go...hmm wrong way round maybe! My problem with the Si is its a nice car but it's only advantage over the Boxster/Cayman is the price and rarity...oh and the fact that the Z4 coupe is one of the prettiest cars I've seen :)! The M felt special, I was full of adrenaline getting out of it...that didn't happen with the Si or the Boxster S for that matter!

Could I ask a favour from members? I'm on my phone at present and can't attach photos. The M I'm looking at is a bargain! 56 plate, 32,000 miles from BMW dealer with 1 years warranty. Almost new tyres and brakes and Inspection II not due for another 2 years...all for £13250 and they have offered to pay my travelling expenses to Scotland and back! 800 mile round trip! My only issue is the colour. It's Black with light bronze sepang interior but the hood is dark beige! Never seen one before and although I quite like it I'm concerned resale will be a nightmate! Any chance I could get some e-mail addresses to send you all some pics for your opinions? If half like then at least there's a market for the colour!!

Cheers all.
 
That's the car but they've also sent me some high resolution pics just in case people wanted a better picture as its tricky to tell sometimes. I've seen cars I thought id love until I saw it in the flesh!

What colour is Light Sepang Bronze and what are people's thought on it?

What's your opinion on the hood/black colour combo? Something you'd consider or is there a reason they are desperate to flog?
 
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