Thieves around.
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DPG said:halifaxbantam said:Evening Redline & welcome - I think the measures you have already taken are sufficient to deter the opportunist thief.
You can never say never, but as a retired cop take it from me even the organised car thief will always go for an easier option.
Your home security is clearly not an easy option - enjoy the car
We're you a copper in Bradford Mark?
If so you'd have probably come across the scrote that did my house over and nicked my GTI
Yes mate -apart from 11 years on the Firearms Team I spent most of my service working the Bradford area - Joy
Out of interest fellas, has anyone or does anybody know anyone who has had a Z nicked?
I can only remember one being nicked from Harrogate with the keys which was later found parked up in an old peoples complex, waiting to be sold on.
I can only remember one being nicked from Harrogate with the keys which was later found parked up in an old peoples complex, waiting to be sold on.
ronk said:
It was a mare.....
It was at the time when hot hatches had a boom and cars where so easy to pinch..... I had mine chained to the tree's,concreted posts into floor etc... They still got them away...
My next door neighbour had similar if not more stolen too...
I also worked on the police rota for recovering stolen vehicles in the early 90's... I worked A-D division in central Manchester,needless to say we where very busy!
Z4M-2006 said:Google doesnt also cover everywhere....
When i lived in Central Manchester i would estimate i had 6 cars stolen,and many more broken into over the years. Fingers crossed we dont get any problems now we live in the sticks....
This is our security...
Wow, where in Manchester was that? Area wise...
Sk93 on here had his Zed stolen earlier in 2014 but it was recovered thankfully. That's about the only one I can remember in my 5 years on here.
Good news, the two guys who broke into our house to try and get the keys have been caught and are currently in jail awaiting court in March. CID say they've been all over the midlands causing trouble. Forensics have tied them to a lot of car theft/break ins. Police were really informative and did a great job, lets just hope the justice system does the same.
Regards David
Regards David
Unfortunately David it's the justice system that lets the side down. Sentencing guidelines & weak magistrates lead to lenient sentences.
Someone sentenced to a four year custodial sentence will often serve little more than 18 months - it's a joke.
Someone sentenced to a four year custodial sentence will often serve little more than 18 months - it's a joke.
Z4M-2006 said:
Absolutely - don't drop that soap
Tough one this. As someone who is ex Police, the advice that is given is to make it easier for the thieves, then you aren't hurt yourself. It is easy to let the insurance company take up the slack and this if anything just encourages the thieves. Halifax Bantam hit the nail on the head for me.
We had our 6 month old Toyota Celica nicked a few years ago and they came into the house for the keys. We didn't have an alarm and our two dogs did nothing to alert us. Since we have got an alarm and beefed up the locks and windows, we have never had another problem, touch wood. We do take the keys up stairs but leave them on the landing window sill to avoid entry into any of the bedrooms.
I have a vast array of objects that can double as weapons should anyone come in and the alarm / pressure sirens not stop them. If you to thump someone around the head with a baseball bat, you need to have a ball and glove hanging around to show that what you did to the burglar / car thief was not pre meditated and spare of the moment, self defence. Maybe nipping out with your kids for a bit of practice once in a while may also add to your defence.
I have a putter, a cup and two balls in my wardrobe.
H.
We had our 6 month old Toyota Celica nicked a few years ago and they came into the house for the keys. We didn't have an alarm and our two dogs did nothing to alert us. Since we have got an alarm and beefed up the locks and windows, we have never had another problem, touch wood. We do take the keys up stairs but leave them on the landing window sill to avoid entry into any of the bedrooms.
I have a vast array of objects that can double as weapons should anyone come in and the alarm / pressure sirens not stop them. If you to thump someone around the head with a baseball bat, you need to have a ball and glove hanging around to show that what you did to the burglar / car thief was not pre meditated and spare of the moment, self defence. Maybe nipping out with your kids for a bit of practice once in a while may also add to your defence.
I have a putter, a cup and two balls in my wardrobe.
H.
Might be slightly off-topic, but I would have thought in hand to hand with a burglar, likely in the dark, a hammer would be more effective. Unless you are trained how to wield a long weapon (yes, I spotted the obvious joke!) the chances are you would be disarmed fairly quickly and likely on the receiving end of it.
Personally I leave the keys downstairs... couldn't give a stuff if the car went to be honest, that's what insurance is for... would leave them a £20 for some petrol and a mars bar in case their hungry if I thought it would remove them from the house quicker!
Personally I leave the keys downstairs... couldn't give a stuff if the car went to be honest, that's what insurance is for... would leave them a £20 for some petrol and a mars bar in case their hungry if I thought it would remove them from the house quicker!
sp3ctre said:
SOME MORE THOUGHTS
No one can predict how they are going to react when confronting an intruder, I hope none of the forum members ever have to experience such an event.
But remember it is likely you will be disorientated, have little in the way of night vision, & will not know how many intruders you have.
I attended many, many burglaries during my career & I lost count of the number of proper 'handy lads' who were honest enough to admit they were relieved they didn't wake & have to confront them.
Sp3ctre - You are quite right, ultimately its a machine, & if they get in, take the keys & then the car so be it. Ultimately You and any family are safe.
I know for some my "home is my castle" - and would therefore, if woken, have a go.
Despite being an ex-cop with training (Ex firearms/Close Protection Officer) I fall into the category, right or wrong it's the way I'm made.
SOME MORE THOUGHTS
No one can predict how they are going to react when confronting an intruder, I hope none of the forum members ever have to experience such an event.
But remember it is likely you will be disorientated, have little in the way of night vision, & will not know how many intruders you have.
I attended many, many burglaries during my career & I lost count of the number of proper 'handy lads' who were honest enough to admit they were relieved they didn't wake & have to confront them.
Sp3ctre - You are quite right, ultimately its a machine, & if they get in, take the keys & then the car so be it. Ultimately You and any family are safe.
I know for some my "home is my castle" - and would therefore, if woken, would have a go.
Despite being an ex-cop with training (Ex firearms/Close Protection Officer) I fall into the category, right or wrong it's the way I'm made.[/quote]
I agree, and correct me if I am wrong but how you would react in that sort of situation is largely dependent on having previous experience of being in threatening situations, be that in the Martial Arts arena, Police training, Army etc... I'd pretty much say the average guy, however confident he may be, is going to come off worse going head to head (likely in his underpants) with an intruder (or several). I've seen guys who "talk the talk" get in fights and simply freeze and flail their arms, who you would expect to be pretty tough.
Agree re the above. I'm not looking to encourage whatever adrenalin pumped thief and mates into coming upstairs to find the keys. He can have the car rather than stick a screwdriver into me. He'd have to get the Zed out of the garage and past the Jag 
Decent locks, alarm system, security lights and that's it. If they want to get in they will.
Incidentally in the Sutton area (which is where this post started and I live) there have been a spate of high performance saloon car thefts. Been a couple of XF's within shouting distance of my house and that had me concerned as the Jags 10x value of the Zed...
Decent locks, alarm system, security lights and that's it. If they want to get in they will.
Incidentally in the Sutton area (which is where this post started and I live) there have been a spate of high performance saloon car thefts. Been a couple of XF's within shouting distance of my house and that had me concerned as the Jags 10x value of the Zed...
You are right, for some the last 'angry man' they came up against was Jonny in the playground who had just nicked their Sherbet Dip.
If that is the case, then I am pleased they have never been involved in such an unpleasant scenario since
If that is the case, then I am pleased they have never been involved in such an unpleasant scenario since