The M3 & M4

Poll Poll Do you like the new M3 & M4 face?

  • Yes, Both

    Votes: 10 16.9%

  • No to both

    Votes: 39 66.1%

  • Yes, M3 only

    Votes: 6 10.2%

  • Yes, M4 only

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • Dont like M3

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Dont like M4

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Help I'm being held hostage by my wife/gf/husband/bf/SO during lockdown and need assistance

    Votes: 13 22.0%
  • Total voters
    59
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Flyingfifer

Senior member
 Fife, Scotland
Admittedly I'm surprised there isnt a thread for this already and I swear to god I searched! :rofl:

The new M3 and M4 face.... thoughts?

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The faces are pretty similar, it’s the rear arch treatment that seems to be dividing opinion.

And lol at the last option. :lol:
 
MrPT said:
The faces are pretty similar, it’s the rear arch treatment that seems to be dividing opinion.

And lol at the last option. :lol:
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You know what scares me..... its growing on me :sick2:
The rear arch? I know that the M4 has a weird split shoulder line that really disrupts the flow of the design, what the beef with the rear arch?

:sos:
 
Flyingfifer said:
MrPT said:
The faces are pretty similar, it’s the rear arch treatment that seems to be dividing opinion.

And lol at the last option. :lol:
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You know what scares me..... its growing on me :sick2:
The rear arch? I know that the M4 has a weird split shoulder line that really disrupts the flow of the design, what the beef with the rear arch?

:sos:
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Just looks really lazy - like they didn't want to produce a different door panel for the M.

Think I'm getting used to the front too. The M440i in black that's been doing the UK review circuit looks quite good (plus 60 in under 4 seconds!).
 
As Baboons Ars#s go they both look a tad OTT from the front. Then descend into mediocrity as you move your eye rear ward. :)

Thank goodness for Number plates. :wink:

Love the Green too very AML. :thumbsup:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSj1Nj2rTc8

I'm not against the idea of the large grille, i dont HATE the look - but it's just getting a bit rediculous now, so fussy. Both BMW + Audi's modern design language is basically 'how many random uncorrelated creases and lines can we throw at a design'. It's low budget lazy design imho, when you see how the E46 M3 looks and compare it to the latest stuff (my m135i included).
 
jimmybell said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSj1Nj2rTc8

I'm not against the idea of the large grille, i dont HATE the look - but it's just getting a bit rediculous now, so fussy. Both BMW + Audi's modern design language is basically 'how many random uncorrelated creases and lines can we throw at a design'. It's low budget lazy design imho, when you see how the E46 M3 looks and compare it to the latest stuff (my m135i included).
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I follow that guy on YT designer of the Mini and X5 iirc, his takes are always quite insightful :thumbsup:

Gotta agree though, I think my issue is the "I've covered it in glue and drove it through the halfords ripspeed warehouse" look that really makes me wince :sick2:
I will say though that the Audi grille I dont mind, its kinda just Audi now and thats fine but the BMW kidney is iconic (yes i know they used to be tall!) and this is just smashing that to bits, same with I think the 7 series, the grille is just offensive, its garish :thumbsdown:
 
BMW have a long history of ‘decisive’ styling changes that have pissed of the faithful..

Despite my love for my E89 and I really love the E85s I’m not a fan of most of BMWs ‘design languages’..

Mercedes amazes me...their move from man with hat and overcoat owner to more ‘yoofful’ owners and styling has worked well for them...

To me BMW seems to just shadow others and then has the odd design brain fart for no obvious reasons..

So I guess that’s a no.. :rofl:
 
The only thing that bothers me about the new M3/M4 is the weight...with the RWD versions weighing circa 160kg heavier than their predecessors. Who knows what the AWD cars will be like...
 
Flyingfifer said:
jimmybell said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSj1Nj2rTc8

I'm not against the idea of the large grille, i dont HATE the look - but it's just getting a bit rediculous now, so fussy. Both BMW + Audi's modern design language is basically 'how many random uncorrelated creases and lines can we throw at a design'. It's low budget lazy design imho, when you see how the E46 M3 looks and compare it to the latest stuff (my m135i included).
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I follow that guy on YT designer of the Mini and X5 iirc, his takes are always quite insightful :thumbsup:

Gotta agree though, I think my issue is the "I've covered it in glue and drove it through the halfords ripspeed warehouse" look that really makes me wince :sick2:
I will say though that the Audi grille I dont mind, its kinda just Audi now and thats fine but the BMW kidney is iconic (yes i know they used to be tall!) and this is just smashing that to bits, same with I think the 7 series, the grille is just offensive, its garish :thumbsdown:
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Hah yeah - more famously known for the MC12, F430, McLaren P1 etc :D interesting insights.
 
As said above all BMW cars these days are just way to fussy at the front end and another vote on the Green
 
The 4 door always looks better I think. The squared off rear emphasises the arch flare.

Really hate the coupes the rears look stretched out and the lights also just don't look right. They haven't got it right since the E46 imo but the 4 doors have that same design essence.

Unfortunately for the design evolution of the E92 was for a successful American market and because it appealed to the Americans the Chinese jumped on it and now these grill designs are aimed squarely at those markets.

But then people buy it.... there are thousands of current M3/M4s in Manchester two a penny and they all sound like lawn mowers.
 
All i6’s sound s**t , even the fabled S54

I have never heard a Z4M and thought, “ oh yes, that sounds great”

Have I done that with a C63, V10 Audi or even some old Anerican muscle ?
Most definitely
 
I didn't like the grilles at first,but like others, they have grown on me.
Still not 100%,tbh.

The larger 7 series has a terrible grilleway too big,and why copy Audi?
 
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