The M3 & M4

[RedUn]

Trying too hard, bloody awful looking! Not as bad as the new 2 series though, it looks like an A class! :thumbsdown:

 

[john-e89]

And folk criticise the new Z4...... :lol:

Hideous

 

[R60BBA]

All i6’s sound s**t , even the fabled S54

I have never heard a Z4M and thought, “ oh yes, that sounds great”

Have I done that with a C63, V10 Audi or even some old Anerican muscle ?
Most definitely

Need to get your ears checked pal.

S54 is one of the best and unique sounding straight six’s out there.

 

[R60BBA]

The 4 door always looks better I think. The squared off rear emphasises the arch flare.

Really hate the coupes the rears look stretched out and the lights also just don't look right. They haven't got it right since the E46 imo but the 4 doors have that same design essence.

Unfortunately for the design evolution of the E92 was for a successful American market and because it appealed to the Americans the Chinese jumped on it and now these grill designs are aimed squarely at those markets.

But then people buy it.... there are thousands of current M3/M4s in Manchester two a penny and they all sound like lawn mowers.

Agreed on the aesthetics point of the saloon being better proportioned than the coupe but not so much on the sound comment. Imo they only sound like lawnmowers on YouTube.

The standard non Comp Pack cars don’t sound great but the exhaust that came on Comp Pack cars rectified this somewhat.

Also by simply swapping out the OE system for a good quality aftermarket exhaust system can make them sound pretty good. Have heard a few, but the Akrapovic under load at full chat sounds mental on S55 cars. The only drawback to this is the cost...but can be more feasible if bought used (and sold on for same money) than bought new.

 

[Z4M-2006]

All i6’s sound s**t , even the fabled S54

I have never heard a Z4M and thought, “ oh yes, that sounds great”


Have I done that with a C63, V10 Audi or even some old Anerican muscle ?
Most definitely

Need to get your ears checked pal.

S54 is one of the best and unique sounding straight six’s out there.

Why,whats great about it....?

 

[Flyingfifer]

Why,whats great about it....?

Whats great about the C63, V10 Audi or even some old American muscle?

 

[kinger]

M3 & M4 are both bad.......but if you have to come down to the West Country...theyre both better that the A303 on a Friday evening

 

[pvr]

I want an E46 M3. That is the last one I liked and still like now.

Project car is either an E46 or an E85 when I have a garage sorted

 

[Silverstar]

I am going to be different from the herd and say I like them even that divisive front end. Are they elegant the way our E89s are or the E46 is? nope but they are still interesting none the less.

On film or in photos the new 4 series face doesn't look so good but I have now seen a couple in the flesh and they definitely look way better in reality also the grill is better integrated into the bumper on the M3 and M4 than it is on the standard 4 series. If I was in the market for that category of cars, I would take the M3 in Cayman Green (I think that's what it is called) with tan seats and gold wheels and carbon fiber pack without hesitation.

 

[Silverstar]

Oh and add those gorgeous carbon fiber seats to my imaginary build!

 

[Z4M-2006]

Why,whats great about it....?

Whats great about the C63, V10 Audi or even some old American muscle?

Sound great,charasmatic,Fast......

If you would take how an i6 sounds over a V8 or V10 then there is no hope for you.

 

[Flyingfifer]

Sound great,charasmatic,Fast......

If you would take how an i6 sounds over a V8 or V10 then there is no hope for you.

You miss my point entirely....

Personally as a passionate car enthusiast I appreciate the unique sound of most engines, the I6 has an undeniable charm that I will always associate with sporty performance cars, RB26, 2JZ, XK, S54 and M88 to name a few.
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Does a V10 or V8 sound "better" depends on how you define better and the car in question, for example...
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[AndyBeech]

All i6’s sound s**t , even the fabled S54

I have never heard a Z4M and thought, “ oh yes, that sounds great”

Have I done that with a C63, V10 Audi or even some old Anerican muscle ?
Most definitely

You’ve never heard one with a carbon air box then? Can’t believe anyone would say they don’t sound pretty special / unique in that guise.

 

[Z4M-2006]

Aren’t we getting a bit mixed up here with what an engine sounds like as opposed to what carburettors and throttle bodies sound like

 

[RedUn]

I think the point is, everyone has a different idea of what they think sounds nice...

 

[Alpina 98]

The new BMW front grilles seem the be aimed at the Chinese market.
They are pig ugly to my eyes

 

[Pondy]

I also really like the green colour

Only British cars should be green. Period.
New BM's are getting to look just like new Audreys; and Mercs, and Fords and everything blo*ody else IMO

 

[Pondy]

And lol at the last option.

The last option is in second place! Shows how childish you lot are (I voted that one too)

 

[BeeEmm]

The current facelift 5 Series managed to avoid the large grill update.

 

[Argyll Andy]

look just like new Audreys

What’s a new Audrey look like? I know an older one but not a new one