Pondrew said:
Wonder what will happen when the first person finds out they have lost out on a job as they have not been vaccinated - then watch the no win / no fee crowd latch onto that one.
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Wonder what will happen when the first person finds out they have lost out on a job as they have not been vaccinated - then watch the no win / no fee crowd latch onto that one.
Ole gits rule said:
Quite right as well, especially considering that it could be due to an underlying condition or allergy or pregnancy or religion or a host of other reasons. Discriminating against people because of that is absolutely appalling and I would hope that they would be dealt with very severely.
Those that disagree I would only ask how long before we require those not vaccinated to wear gold stars and board trains against their will....
No one seems to mind wearing a lanyard to say they cant wear a mask, therefore I think those who have a genuine reason to not be vaccinated should carry something to say so, they should not be discriminated against for certain and everyone else would carry a passport, and I would have no issue with a "vaccine passport"
Employers will be frightened that they employ someone who could possibly infect their workforce and suddenly their place is shut down, what happens if someone then passes away due to the person employed.
This is a total nightmare from all sides.
Employers will be frightened that they employ someone who could possibly infect their workforce and suddenly their place is shut down, what happens if someone then passes away due to the person employed.
This is a total nightmare from all sides.
ronk said:Flyingfifer said:
Now you're calling us Nazi's!
I didnt use that classification but ultimately that is the sort of people that you would be in the same ballpark of if you believe that people should be ostracised from society because of their immutable characteristics/non criminal personal beliefs :idunno:
We dont do that to people who dont take other vaccines... why start now
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Flyingfifer said:
You fought the Nazi's didn't you Ronk?
mgrlane said:
ronk said:Just had the call to book No 2 jab for Monday 12th April
Good stuff, that should almost replenish your resistance back up to the circa 70-80% range
Interesting that they have stopped Astra for the <30s
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Yet stated this morning that the clot risk is the same as a long haul flight.................Flyingfifer said:ronk said:Just had the call to book No 2 jab for Monday 12th April
Good stuff, that should almost replenish your resistance back up to the circa 70-80% range
Interesting that they have stopped Astra for the <30s
I wonder if they would still have stopped it if the Moderna wasn't arriving just in time to fill the gap?
enuff_zed said:
The risk does seem to be minuscule but I also think there is some fudging of figures going on, all the %s seem based on the entire total # of recipients (regardless of age so includes everyone together) rather that specifically the young, its possible that the risk for <30s is actually higher and that risk % is therefore higher. That's entirely speculation on my part, but I am suspicious of nebulous numbers converted into %s without a clear definition of where they came from and what the content of the figures are.
for example 79 cases out of 20,000,000 jabs but were 50 of those cases from under 40s of which there were only 10,000 jabs?
It does appear that younger women are most at risk with 2/3 of the cases being in that demographic
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Looking through all the figures today and was trying my best to find out what the definition of a "pre-existing medial condition" is when it comes to Covid.
Thought I would share.
Google was not really any help but duckduckgo turned out a few results.
BBC:
-chronic (long-term) respiratory diseases, such as asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or bronchitis
-chronic heart disease, such as heart failure
-chronic kidney disease
-chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis
-chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy
-diabetes
-problems with your spleen - for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed
a weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medicines such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy
-being seriously overweight (a BMI of 40 or above)
-those who are pregnant
And the ONS:
We define a pre-existing condition as the last health condition mentioned on the first part of the death certificate when it came before the coronavirus (COVID-19), or was an independent contributory factor in the death, mentioned in part II. Where only COVID-19 was recorded on the death certificate, or COVID-19 and subsequent conditions caused by COVID-19 were recorded, we refer to these deaths as having "No pre-existing conditions".
Refs:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51703892
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathswithandwithoutpreexistingconditions
Thought I would share.
Google was not really any help but duckduckgo turned out a few results.
BBC:
-chronic (long-term) respiratory diseases, such as asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or bronchitis
-chronic heart disease, such as heart failure
-chronic kidney disease
-chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis
-chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy
-diabetes
-problems with your spleen - for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed
a weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medicines such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy
-being seriously overweight (a BMI of 40 or above)
-those who are pregnant
And the ONS:
We define a pre-existing condition as the last health condition mentioned on the first part of the death certificate when it came before the coronavirus (COVID-19), or was an independent contributory factor in the death, mentioned in part II. Where only COVID-19 was recorded on the death certificate, or COVID-19 and subsequent conditions caused by COVID-19 were recorded, we refer to these deaths as having "No pre-existing conditions".
Refs:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51703892
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathswithandwithoutpreexistingconditions
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Nictrix said:First pic of vaccine passport that will allow you into pubs
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Do you have proper notes up there then?
I was given one of your notes a couple of years ago as change from a bar. I asked for a real one back
I was going to put on a Scottish note but most on here would not know what to do with it :lol:mgrlane said:Nictrix said:First pic of vaccine passport that will allow you into pubs
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Do you have proper notes up there then?
I was given one of your notes a couple of years ago as change from a bar. I asked for a real one back
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Nictrix said:I was going to put on a Scottish note but most on here would not know what to do with it :lol:mgrlane said:Nictrix said:First pic of vaccine passport that will allow you into pubs
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Do you have proper notes up there then?
I was given one of your notes a couple of years ago as change from a bar. I asked for a real one back
Put it in the bin?
They are about as useful down here as a £50 note. No body wants to take them.
mgrlane said:Put it in the bin?
They are about as useful down here as a £50 note. No body wants to take them.
Racists