The jab ..

Poll Poll Will you take the COVID jab

  • Of course

    Votes: 158 79.0%
  • Hell no

    Votes: 18 9.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 11 5.5%
  • After results of first round are known

    Votes: 13 6.5%

  • Total voters
    200
ronk said:
I’m totally lost off now - can someone summarise this for me please and as a simple phrase.

1 Pro jabbers want the jab because they want to avoid C19

2 Anti Jabbers do not want the jab why?
No. To summarize the reason in a simple phrase is akin to asking one to tell the whole history of the Earth in a single sentence.

Take the responsibility upon yourself and do some research. Please research in places other than just the main stream. A good place to start is, as I stated earlier, search for Doctor Carrie Madej. Sadly many of her videos have been scrubbed from the web or censored from the typical platforms most go to to view videos. Just the fact that a truth teller is censored should tell you something and set off alarms in your brain.

If your browser will allow you to go there, "stopworldcontrol-dot-com" has a great section under "Covid". You may find it difficult to get to the site, my virus software (Trend Micro) blocks the web site...even when you tell it to ignore the warning and go to the site. I can get there on my I-Pad without any problem. When people do not want you to have any and all info on any subject...one must be suspicious of the reason why.
 
Pbondar said:
Also there seems to be often a lack of deductive or connective logic.

Please point them out and explain why. I won't be offended.

Pbondar said:
Therefore I was asking, I thought politely, what the context of your recent extract and how did that relate to the issue of the merits of having a COVID vaccination

I a pro "it's your decision" for having a jab. I am actively encouraging my mother to have one. I won't be having one.

My point is that I am in a good age range (under 40) and have no medical conditions so I have more chance of killing myself than Covid killing me. That was my point. Sorry I thought it was clear hence why I thought you were on the windup. :thumbsup:
 
ronk said:
I’m totally lost off now - can someone summarise this for me please and as a simple phrase.

1 Pro jabbers want the jab because they want to avoid C19

2 Anti Jabbers do not want the jab why?
Firsty, I'm not telling anyone not to get vaccinated. Certainly, if you are in the frame for being the most affected then by all means, do what you think is right. I am just extremely wary of what is going on and very suspicious of how it's being presented. My main point is that open, fair, balanced discussions about vaccines have for a long time been difficult, and now it's almost impossible.
Things like Hydroxychloriquine, Ivermectin, Vitamin D and Zinc get passed over for the almighty jab, and presenting it as the only saviour to the issues, when as far as I can see there are safe and practical options to help get it in the first place. I mean, who ever has heard the BBC talk up vitamin D? I haven't. But all of a sudden it's being offered to the elderly seeing as it's less sunny now. Hang on, you never mention it, but now it's important?
Oh, here's an hour long video of why it's important.
https://youtu.be/ha2mLz-Xdpg
 
I have looked at the Dr Carrie M page and she summaries the vaccine as:-

It will reprogram our DNA and make us hybrids that are easier to control.

connect us to artificial intelligence through a digital vaccine ID, which will also open a whole new realm of control.

Really ???

I think she’s forgotten to tell us about flying pigs and that the Earth is indeed flat .
 
The simple answer to that is no one makes any real money from flogging you vitamins and minerals and advising you to eat healthy.

Pharma would rather sell you a jab and make it becomes a repeat prescription for the rest of your life.

All in on the bit D and zinc. Alot of the early studies (albeit most were on Asians) showed that alot of the cases were deficient in vitamin d.
 
inkey$ said:
I think Old Duckman just levelled the entire thread up few notches :lol:

David Icke is another one to look up if you like that sort of thing.
 
The jab ..
“Beware the ignorant. They’re the most dangerous enemy of all, because they are everywhere.”
 
mgrlane said:
"Things like Hydroxychloriquine, Ivermectin, Vitamin D and Zinc get passed over for the almighty jab, and presenting it as the only saviour to the issues, when as far as I can see there are safe and practical options to help get it in the first place. I mean, who ever has heard the BBC talk up vitamin D?"

The simple answer to that is no one makes any real money from flogging you vitamins and minerals and advising you to eat healthy.

Pharma would rather sell you a jab and make it becomes a repeat prescription for the rest of your life.

All in on the bit D and zinc. Alot of the early studies (albeit most were on Asians) showed that alot of the cases were deficient in vitamin d.
I didn't say that, please edit your post. Thanks.
 
ronk said:
Probably best to stay away from 5G masts as well :rofl:
Funny you mention that:
https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
But don't worry, everything will be fine.......
 
ronk said:
I have looked at the Dr Carrie M page and she summaries the vaccine as:-

It will reprogram our DNA and make us hybrids that are easier to control.

connect us to artificial intelligence through a digital vaccine ID, which will also open a whole new realm of control.

Really ???

I think she’s forgotten to tell us about flying pigs and that the Earth is indeed flat .
You are correct, she does say exactly what you have written.

Does it sound crazy, yes it does. But then again, so do self-driving cars, and a device you can keep in your pocket without any wires that allows you talk to anyone in the world at any time as long as they have one of these devices in their pocket too. And just about any other technology that only a short while ago would have been laughed at.

As Z4C_er said, get the vaccine if you wish it is surely your choice, However shouldn't I be allowed to not take it without any repercussions and/or government mandated restrictions imposed because I decided to exercise my free will.

As conspiratorial as it may sound, there are people in power who want to control everything, including every person on the Earth. Population control has been a desire of the "elite" for decades. Abortion and never ending war has helped but imagine "forcing" the entire population of the world into getting a series of vaccines (I have heard them say they don't know just how many you will have to get to obtain immunity. Right now it is two. I think that is the Phizer vaccine, if I'm not mistaken.) through which we could gain control of everyone. Research, if you haven't already, the "Georgia Guidestones". Basically the 10 commandments of the New World Order. #1 "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."

Hmmmm, now how could they possibly do that? Let your imagination take hold of how to accomplish that.

In conclusion, by the master vaccinator himself: “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent.” Bill Gates 2010. But, but, but that was taken out of context. OK.
 
mgrlane said:
inkey$ said:
I think Old Duckman just levelled the entire thread up few notches :lol:

David Icke is another one to look up if you like that sort of thing.

I know I shouldn't be surprised but I am. I know I should probably say it's a valid and balanced opinion....but its not and I won't.

When you start referencing the dark web or websites you might not be able to access on through you ISP it's time to call it out for what it is. Dangerous bullshit. Evangelical spittle, designed and aimed towards those who quite rightly and understandably have legitimate worries about their health and the health of their friends and families.
 
mgrlane said:
The simple answer to that is no one makes any real money from flogging you vitamins and minerals and advising you to eat healthy.

Pharma would rather sell you a jab and make it becomes a repeat prescription for the rest of your life.

All in on the bit D and zinc. Alot of the early studies (albeit most were on Asians) showed that a lot of the cases were deficient in vitamin d.
Follow the money trail....
 
Wow. There are plenty of sites for nutters to have these discussions, surely Z4 forum isn't it?

PLEASE SOMEONE CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!
 
inkey$ said:
mgrlane said:
inkey$ said:
I think Old Duckman just levelled the entire thread up few notches :lol:

David Icke is another one to look up if you like that sort of thing.

I know I shouldn't be surprised but I am. I know I should probably say it's a valid and balanced opinion....but its not and I won't.

When you start referencing the dark web or websites you might not be able to access on through you ISP it's time to call it out for what it is. Dangerous bullshit. Evangelical spittle, designed and aimed towards those who quite rightly and understandably have legitimate worries about their health and the health of their friends and families.
I've heard this before. The thing is, it follows a standard pattern. Someone presents facts, or an alternative viewpoint, and the best you get back is a flurry of standard words like "rubbish", "trash", "you have no clue", "don't be an idiot", "flat earther".... etc....

...but no actual counter-argument.

If you put 2 and 2 together, you will see that these alternate websites exist, because big industry has driven them away from your standard ISP fare. The fact that you have to search for alternate view should be ringing serious alarm bells.

But it doesn't, does it. You'd prefer just to name-call, to mock, to discount out-of-hand.

I don't subscribe to name calling, but this saying comes to mind:

Definition of a FOOL: Knowing the truth, seeing the truth, but still believing the lies.
 
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