The jab ..

[ronk]

I suspect you have been watching / listening / reading too much news

Are you serious about a 100% cut of the news?

From very early on I learned how to switch off the news streams and learn to be happy in my own skin.

However like you I’m looking forward to freedom of choice, seeing family and friends etc etc - The only thing that has brassed me off is not being able to go to my cousins funeral who died recently - not Covid but the other C .

 

[GAZA62]

Had my jab Friday in and out in 7 mins i was a bit light headed last night but only lasted around an hour and not enough to stop me having a couple of beers with my curry

 

[1000rr]

Had my jab yesterday... wasn’t on the list, but phoned the qwak to see when I can have it....she said I could have it next day. Only pushed it as I want to go abroad on hols...

Had Covid in Jan, no symptoms.

Had the jab yesterday, feels like I’ve been hit by a bus today and high temps all through the night.. Apparently, if you’ve had Covid, then having the vaccine will have side effects, immune system kicking in straight away. That’s according to NHS wife and NHS friends.

Oxford AstraZeneca.

 

[sw4nny]

Had my Jab today at 3pm (AZ) - so far so good was very impressed with the extremely efficient way in which people were managed and vaccines delivered. Despite there being queues around the block I was in and out in about 15-20mins.

This is a mirror image of my 3pm jab today.

 

[Pondy]

for some it's been life changing in how they might interact with others in the future, being out in public places, work places etc and will remain cautious.

That's me to a tee. I can't see me ever going to a pub again without having an anxiety attack.
I was not keen on 'people' before March 2020. The last year has proved to me that a significant number of the "Great British Public" are selfish, self-centred d*ckheads. I also find it embarrassing, as a (once) proud Englishman that we have embraced this disease and run with it when we had all the warnings. I would love to see how differently Australia and New Zealand dealt with this early on, because it looks like they did a far better job than us. Luckily our vaccine roll-out has been exceptional; because it is the only thing that is going to save us IMO.

 

[Deleted member 32480]

Had my jab yesterday... wasn’t on the list, but phoned the qwak to see when I can have it....she said I could have it next day. Only pushed it as I want to go abroad on hols...

Had Covid in Jan, no symptoms.

Had the jab yesterday, feels like I’ve been hit by a bus today and high temps all through the night.. Apparently, if you’ve had Covid, then having the vaccine will have side effects, immune system kicking in straight away. That’s according to NHS wife and NHS friends.

Oxford AstraZeneca.

I am interested and must ask- why have you had a vaccination for a virus you have had less than 50 days earlier?

 

[rdgreen]

That's me to a tee. I can't see me ever going to a pub again without having an anxiety attack.
I was not keen on 'people' before March 2020. The last year has proved to me that a significant number of the "Great British Public" are selfish, self-centred d*ckheads. I also find it embarrassing, as a (once) proud Englishman that we have embraced this disease and run with it when we had all the warnings. I would love to see how differently Australia and New Zealand dealt with this early on, because it looks like they did a far better job than us. Luckily our vaccine roll-out has been exceptional; because it is the only thing that is going to save us IMO.

Essentially they shut the place down early and enforced strict measures that weren't popular, but appear to have worked, including no international travel, unless returning home, isolation for 14 days on return in "medi hotels" or (if you 'knew' someone) in home quarantine.....and of course total panic by the politicians when they were forced to make a decision and isolated each state from one another. Of the 909 deaths, 820 were in Victoria (poor leadership) 54 in NSW (caused mainly by one cruise ship) and the rest in the other states (also mainly from the same cruise ship). No deaths since last October so the virus isn't in the community any longer but the politicians being what they are still haven't fully relinquished many of the restrictions that were introduced. QR codes were introduced at every shop/business in Australia so you had to log in every time you visited for traceability in the event of a further outbreak...the police are complaining but basically it's ignored now.

 

[1000rr]

You can have it 4 weeks after....

And because we travel a lot...if, and a big if, we can go away abroad....then we have had our jabs....plus I’ve just turned 50

 

[Flyingfifer]

Essentially they shut the place down early and enforced strict measures that weren't popular, but appear to have worked, including no international travel, unless returning home, isolation for 14 days on return in "medi hotels" or (if you 'knew' someone) in home quarantine.....and of course total panic by the politicians when they were forced to make a decision and isolated each state from one another. Of the 909 deaths, 820 were in Victoria (poor leadership) 54 in NSW (caused mainly by one cruise ship) and the rest in the other states (also mainly from the same cruise ship). No deaths since last October so the virus isn't in the community any longer but the politicians being what they are still haven't fully relinquished many of the restrictions that were introduced. QR codes were introduced at every shop/business in Australia so you had to log in every time you visited for traceability in the event of a further outbreak...the police are complaining but basically it's ignored now.

Wow, they basically turned Oz back into a prison colony :roll:

Absolutely insane wilfully surrendering your liberty and freedom out of absolute blind fear a terror of a virus that only really effects the over 60s, mind blowing.

 

[rdgreen]

Wow, they basically turned Oz back into a prison colony :roll:

Absolutely insane wilfully surrendering your liberty and freedom out of absolute blind fear a terror of a virus that only really effects the over 60s, mind blowing.

909 dead compared to 130,000+ for a bit of temporary inconvenience. I'm prepared to pay that price after seeing the mess Europe, the UK and the USA made of it. Keep on trolling though.

 

[Mr Tidy]

Wow, they basically turned Oz back into a prison colony

Absolutely insane wilfully surrendering your liberty and freedom out of absolute blind fear a terror of a virus that only really effects the over 60s, mind blowing.

Maybe you'd have a different opinion if you were over 60 (and may be affected, as opposed to being effected).

 

[enzed4]

a virus that only really effects the over 60s, mind blowing.

What do people hope to gain by coming to this forum perpetuating lies and misinformation about this virus? "only really effects the over 60's"
I am under 60, and my chances of dying from Covid-19 are 400 times more likely than someone aged 5-17 years. Let me say that again:
400 TIMES (source: CDC, feb 18, 2021). I'd rather not take those chances thanks, and am glad we had the loss of 'liberty & freedom' to bring about some control over the virus when we did. Happy to change my opinion if you could actually quote a single reliable source (ie, not another discredited Dr. with an anti-vax, conspiracy theory agenda), but I don't think that's likely.

 

[Deleted member 32480]

You can have it 4 weeks after....

And because we travel a lot...if, and a big if, we can go away abroad....then we have had our jabs....plus I’ve just turned 50

Ah right,

I read that the chances of reinfection are very slim and even if you do then it's such a lower dose/effects than the 1st time.

I hope you feel better soon.

 

[Deleted member 32480]

a virus that only really effects the over 60s, mind blowing.

What do people hope to gain by coming to this forum perpetuating lies and misinformation about this virus? "only really effects the over 60's"
I am under 60, and my chances of dying from Covid-19 are 400 times more likely than someone aged 5-17 years. Let me say that again:
400 TIMES (source: CDC, feb 18, 2021). I'd rather not take those chances thanks, and am glad we had the loss of 'liberty & freedom' to bring about some control over the virus when we did. Happy to change my opinion if you could actually quote a single reliable source (ie, not another discredited Dr. with an anti-vax, conspiracy theory agenda), but I don't think that's likely.

If you can prove to me that there is not a disproportionate effect of the virus to the over 60's and those with pre-existing medical conditions I will have the jab at the next available opportunity.

Happy to change my opinion if you could actually quote a single reliable source. (your words not mine)

PS.
In answer to your question please see the attached picture and link to the official statics can be found here:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

PPS.
I have a lot greater chance of death from Covid than say a 12 year old. But for context 400 times f*ck all is still f*ck all.

 

[Deleted member 32480]

Maybe you'd have a different opinion if you were over 60 (and may be affected, as opposed to being effected).

My guess is naturally he would.

I would also guess that you would have a different opinion if you were just setting out in life in your mid 20's?

 

[TitanTim]

Aren't they saying they are seeing alot more younger people with no underlying health issues secumbing to the new variants emerging in Europe. What I've been thinking all along with this virus is it's so unpredictable mutating away that's it's foolish to think you're totally immune because you fall into a younger age bracket.

I also think some people are just mad thinking they can forge ahead booking holidays abroad at the moment A great way of bringing some mutant variant back into the country that might make the current vaccine redundant.

Tim.

 

[Deleted member 32480]

Aren't they saying they are seeing alot more younger people with no underlying health issues secumbing to the new variants emerging in Europe. What I've been thinking all along with this virus is it's so unpredictable mutating away that's it's foolish to think you're totally immune because you fall into a younger age bracket.

I also think some people are just mad thinking they can forge ahead booking holidays abroad at the moment A great way of bringing some mutant variant back into the country that might make the current vaccine redundant.

Tim.

Can you put some info on here? It would be good to see who "they" are and take a look at it.

I don't think I am "totally immune"- I was just simplifying the point to make my point. I don't want to catch the virus. Equally so I don't want to catch the flu. But if I do I for sure know that it's statistically not going to be as bad a you merchants of doom on here portray it as!

Only one of my peers has suffered from it- Diabetic, overweight, smoker and excessive drinker. For context I think he would suffer recovering from any form of illness the way he treats his body.

 

[enzed4]

a virus that only really effects the over 60s, mind blowing.

What do people hope to gain by coming to this forum perpetuating lies and misinformation about this virus? "only really effects the over 60's"
I am under 60, and my chances of dying from Covid-19 are 400 times more likely than someone aged 5-17 years. Let me say that again:
400 TIMES (source: CDC, feb 18, 2021). I'd rather not take those chances thanks, and am glad we had the loss of 'liberty & freedom' to bring about some control over the virus when we did. Happy to change my opinion if you could actually quote a single reliable source (ie, not another discredited Dr. with an anti-vax, conspiracy theory agenda), but I don't think that's likely.

If you can prove to me that there is not a disproportionate effect of the virus to the over 60's and those with pre-existing medical conditions I will have the jab at the next available opportunity.

Happy to change my opinion if you could actually quote a single reliable source. (your words not mine)

PS.
In answer to your question please see the attached picture and link to the official statics can be found here:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

PPS.
I have a lot greater chance of death from Covid than say a 12 year old. But for context 400 times f*ck all is still f*ck all.

Thank you for at least trying to answer with actual science, I see where you're coming from and can't argue with that statistic.
Am I wrong in assuming that you're saying you're okay with taking the risk of catching the virus and won't be vaccinated? And that if you do get it, you're not worried about spreading it to anyone else who may not have been vaccinated yet, e.g. all those with pre-existing medical conditions who you may come into contact with while incubating the virus? I don't understand why you'd do this.
I don't want to argue, just understand your motivation(s).

 

[Deleted member 32480]

Thank you for at least trying to answer with actual science, I see where you're coming from and can't argue with that statistic.
Am I wrong in assuming that you're saying you're okay with taking the risk of catching the virus and won't be vaccinated?

My personal choice is not to take the vaccine for another 3+ years (when the data for the current trials is in, its analysed and it's approved for non emergency use). I shall make a decision then. My decision would be different if I had any medical conditions, If I was seriously ill (lets say I was fighting cancer) or I was in my late 60's.

you're not worried about spreading it to anyone else who may not have been vaccinated yet, e.g. all those with pre-existing medical conditions who you may come into contact with while incubating the virus?

Please see the attached document of the "at risk groups". The good news is 99% of the deaths in the UK are coming from that group and they have all had at least one vaccination. I suggest perhaps for their protection they should shield if they have any concerns over their safety so the majority can get back to a normal life.

I don't want to bring bad news to you but having had the jab you will still have the ability to catch or pass on the virus.

 

[ronk]

Wow, they basically turned Oz back into a prison colony :roll:

Absolutely insane wilfully surrendering your liberty and freedom out of absolute blind fear a terror of a virus that only really effects the over 60s, mind blowing.

909 dead compared to 130,000+ for a bit of temporary inconvenience. I'm prepared to pay that price after seeing the mess Europe, the UK and the USA made of it. Keep on trolling though.

Question Mr Fifer,

How have you been keeping yourself safe from Covid this last year - Have you been observing the rules like the rest of us? Are you working from home etc?