The jab ..

Poll Poll Will you take the COVID jab

  • Of course

    Votes: 158 79.0%

  • Hell no

    Votes: 18 9.0%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 11 5.5%

  • After results of first round are known

    Votes: 13 6.5%
  • Total voters
    200
ronk said:
No matter if it was legal or not, it was seen as a breech of the rules and signalled the wrong message to the masses.
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It was seen as a breach yes, by the media and those that read the media. Not by those who knew what actually happened. For example, how many actually knew his 4 year old child was autistic and needed the care of someone who he could relate to rather than just a family friend in London? It was certainly not seen as a breach by the Police who interviewed and took statements from those involved
 
Believe me, I'm rarin' to take up my life where I left off. I'll be out in my Go-karts as soon as I can. I don't blame the government for any of it: the pandemic is a natural disaster the likes of which none of us have seen before in our lifetimes. I just think that coping with lockdown is "attitudinal" and I take "Fletch's" point of view in "Porridge": just bide your time. Getting upset and angry is a futile and self-destructive way of handling the situation, just chill and find relaxing ways of passing the time. :thumbsup:

[/quote]Wise words that everyone should take heed of no matter what your politics. No Govt could have handled this any better or worse. We are in unprecedented times learning as we go. If only we all had the gift of hindsight we could have rode out all this without a problem.

I remember a saying of one of my previous bosses (Who I did not get on with particularly) his favourite saying was, "We are where we are, deal with it" Wise words I have always followed.
 
mgrlane said:
exdos said:
As I see it, we are all in this together and as such I will share the lockdown with those whom are in a much less fortunate position than me.
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So when will you see your Grandchildren? What has to happen for you to be able to do so? Is it safe when all the over 60's have had their jab or do you think it needs to be all 66million?

Also,

What happens when (like the flu) a slightly different variant appears (keep in mind there are over 200 versions already)?

Do you go back to full lockdowns again and repeat the process? Do you have an acceptable level of risk that sit's with you or do you just trust what the powers that be say?
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I think you will find the number of variants runs into thousands not hundreds. Viruses want a host so they do not want to kill the host just infect and spread. That's why the mutate. many variants won't even need a vaccine as they will die naturally, many will succumb to the vaccine and others will be controlled like the flu with only a minor tweak to the vaccine. Once you achieve herd immunity all that is needed is to maintain it
 
I have not seen any statistics yet on the number of vaccinated people who still got COVID. I would expected that when they update the daily figures that they would have the tally of those who have had a vaccine but still got the virus.

It would be a good publicity if there were 10000 new cases on a day, and only 2 were vaccinated people. With a data set of 15 million people it should be available.
 
pvr said:
I have not seen any statistics yet on the number of vaccinated people who still got COVID. I would expected that when they update the daily figures that they would have the tally of those who have had a vaccine but still got the virus.

It would be a good publicity if there were 10000 new cases on a day, and only 2 were vaccinated people. With a data set of 15 million people it should be available.
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Can’t see that happening, it can take weeks after the jab before the vaccine builds protection & there’s always going to be people that get the virus in this interim period :?
Rob
 
I had my jab last Friday, was given the Oxford version no side effects what so ever and the wife and her mother both had the pfizer jab also with no side effects so hopefully the majority will be the same
 
Smartbear said:
Can’t see that happening, it can take weeks after the jab before the vaccine builds protection & there’s always going to be people that get the virus in this interim period :?
Rob
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There is one reason and one reason only not to track and release that data, it goes against the messiah vaccine narrative
 
At the place where I work we have just had thousands of track and trace test kits dropped off for people to pick up and use at home to test themselves.
Apparently these kits will be dropped off on a fortnightly basis.
Nobody has asked for these kits and its on a voluntary basis that people can sign up to use them.
They have no idea how many people are going to do this so how can they work out how many they will need or how often to drop off a new supply?
This is where our money is being spent and how the rich get richer in our corrupt country.
 
Flyingfifer said:
Smartbear said:
Can’t see that happening, it can take weeks after the jab before the vaccine builds protection & there’s always going to be people that get the virus in this interim period :?
Rob
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There is one reason and one reason only not to track and release that data, it goes against the messiah vaccine narrative
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Apparently there is already some hugely encouraging data on this from Israel (who are somewhat further along in their rollout programme than us). The CMO has said that they have been tracking it in the UK and when the data is more mature (he mentioned a few weeks) it would be released into the public domain. I think it's clear that will happen regardless of whether it goes with or against any "messiah vaccine narrative" For now it's looking more and more like a much needed success story.
 
They must be looking at figures for those who have had the jab and still catch Covid or are exposed to it. I received a TXT today asking if I wanted to take part in such a survey. Download an App and answer a few questions. Says I will be contacted again every few days
 
Nanu said:
They must be looking at figures for those who have had the jab and still catch Covid or are exposed to it. I received a TXT today asking if I wanted to take part in such a survey. Download an App and answer a few questions. Says I will be contacted again every few days
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Interesting, I would be stunned if they werent gathering that data it has significant scientific value imo
 
Nanu said:
mgrlane said:
Nanu said:
Patients were sent back to care homes yes. They were sent to those which had the facility to quarantine them from the rest of the care home community and these were given additional funding. The issue was as you say was with staff, in particular nurses, who bounced from one car home to another. It is a legal duty for these places to have a qualified nurse on duty at all times. This was often fulfilled by NHS nurses working additional shifts or agency staff covering more than one home. I suspect that when we have the inevitable enquiry into Covid, the one main outcome will be that our wonderful NHS staff were all not quite as wonderful as we are led to believe.
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In my opinion if they have the power to close all business then they have the power to close off care homes.

I can just about forgive them for sending old folk home at the peak of 1st lockdown. A big part of why we are locked up is to protect these people and it's smashing its way through the care homes.

Does not sit right to me. Pay people to live on site and test people before they visit.

Family member is going into a carehome this week. She will have to quarrenteen for a week but a care assistant can just walk on in and pass out death sentences. It is rather concerning.
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Got it in one. The source of the majority of the issues in Care Homes which is still happening in Scotland. Add to that the fact that tests are not 100% accurate and.........
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Surprise, Surprise.

3 weeks? into going into care we have received an email to say that two people in the carehome have contracted Covid.

The grandmother hasn't got it but it's worrying none the less.
 
Would You take the COVID jab?

Yes - had mine yesterday - Shout out to the RAF Coningsby "volunteers" for their marshalling skills and the banter!

Side effects of this jab - YES
Protects me from the self righteos flat earth ant vaxers who will become the only source of bug mutations in the future.

Keeps me out of hospital
Will hopefully allow me to get away at the earliest on a holiday away from the Smug, Arrogant, Negative Media we have to put up with.
In the Z4 in a return trip to Bormio to give it a good thrashing up and down the Stelvio as well as few other Alpine passes - this time in the SI with bigger brakes and paddle shift!
 
Rucky said:
Side effects of this jab - YES
Protects me from the self righteos flat earth ant vaxers who will become the only source of bug mutations in the future.
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They have even started to vaccinate the Formicidae now days? Gosh big Pharma will do anything for buck. :rofl:
 
Rucky said:
Would You take the COVID jab?

Yes - had mine yesterday - Shout out to the RAF Coningsby "volunteers" for their marshalling skills and the banter!

Side effects of this jab - YES
Protects me from the self righteos flat earth ant vaxers who will become the only source of bug mutations in the future.

Keeps me out of hospital
Will hopefully allow me to get away at the earliest on a holiday away from the Smug, Arrogant, Negative Media we have to put up with.
In the Z4 in a return trip to Bormio to give it a good thrashing up and down the Stelvio as well as few other Alpine passes - this time in the SI with bigger brakes and paddle shift!
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:rofl: :rofl: That made me laugh first thing in the morning :thumbsup:

I’m also in the process of planning a very similar trip via the Route de Grande Alpes and am now considering adding an extra few days and heading down towards Rome too. :driving:
 
Rucky said:
Side effects of this jab - YES
Protects me from the self righteos flat earth ant vaxers who will become the only source of bug mutations in the future.
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Lmao, fingers crossed there aren't any unknown side effects to come out in 10 years or so plus thats maybe 90 - 120days of protection you have there buddy... hardly a magic bullet :slaphead:
 
Flyingfifer said:
Lmao, fingers crossed there aren't any unknown side effects to come out in 10 years or so plus thats maybe 90 - 120days of protection you have there buddy... hardly a magic bullet
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I thought it was longer than 120 days? It must be surely?
 
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