Taken a gamble on the new daily

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This week we have exchanged our Mazda CX60 PHEV for an all electric ŠKODA Enyaq Sportline. It seems to fit the bill and meet our needs. I managed to find a car with a few thousand miles on it but registered before 01/04/25. So the road tax is £195 rather than the £620 that anything registered after the start of April attracts.
Initial impressions are good. It has all the toys and drives well. But I’m still a bit uneasy about range. The official range on the Enyaq is 335 miles but I guess it’s more likely to be about 280 miles which should be fine for us.
I’m interested to hear how others are getting on with their electric vehicles.🤨
 

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Hello Ian!

That looks really nice- I have looked before at the electric Skoda range and I think you’ll enjoy that!
 
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I’m interested to hear how others are getting on with their electric vehicles.
Noooooooo! :sleep:
Every other forum is people banging on about how they think they are saving the planet with their overpriced electric monstrosities and how much it costs at public charging stations, etc, etc.

Please discuss washing machines on domestic appliance forums only, thanks! :)
 
This week we have exchanged our Mazda CX60 PHEV for an all electric ŠKODA Enyaq Sportline.
And you say I change cars a lot. That's three (at least) in a couple of years for you and Angela, Ian.

It was a Maxi (sorry; big Mini), then a lightbulb, now a Czech VW. Next it will be a "Build Your Dreams" Sealion or some such nonsense. How could anyone buy a car called BYD with model names so stupid? And for Chinese junk they ain't very cheap.
 
You've moved to the dark side now Ian. :(

I've lost count of how many times you have changed your daily driver, but I hope it fits the bill for you. I prefer my cars to be a foot or so lower and have a petrol straight 6!
 
Car looks lovely, I looked at these too as it's essentially a model Y shape competitor copy. Didn't get one because I needed the extra 2 seats.

Leased a 7 seat model Y for the family. Absolutely love it probably the best car I've ever owned.

For a daily electric is fantastic, quiet, comfy tech is awesome and the driving aids I actually really like. Not had any issues with the range did Manchester to Brighton recently and we had to stop for the kids and dogs rather than range issues. Could have done the trip with two stops.

It is absolutely rapid too, it's faster than the Z4M. Drive it in chill mode because it's just a bit too quick for daily use. For a 2.5 tonne 7 seater its such a great all round car.

Just have to change perspective on what a car is and how it works and your habits. Once you do and get over the stigma they are just great cars and atm they are so cheap they just make a lot of sense.

Took it as a lease because of elec worries, whether we would like it, possibly battery issues. All stupid now weve had it nearly a year. The lease is less than the cost of fuel a month on our previous daily.

Also got a years free charging so cost us nothing yet. Also £1000 worth of credit and then a £500 referal so that £1500 should get us through the rest of the lease electricity wise.

Rough saving on fuel I was spending £5k a year on our old daily it really adds up £15k in 3 years. Add on top no servicing, tax it is really economical motoring.

Only downside is insurance is expensive!!

When charging it I often struggle to get a coffee and get back before it's done on the 20-80 rule. 20 mins max usually.

Good tip is not to park up to another car as it's usually twice the time if you can get your own bay it's very quick on the superchargers.

I suppose if we didn't have 2 kids and 2 dogs it might be different if I was doing 400 miles in one go but as a human I struggle to believe people can do 4-500 miles without a wee stop and by the time you've been, got a drink it's a 20 min stop anyway.

I charge it once a week on a Monday morning after the nursery run. Haven't needed to charge it at home yet. Usually after a week of nursery runs it's about 40ish percent. Go grab a coffee and it's done.

Little life improvements. It has a security system where all the cameras on the car record and save footage. All the wireless elements like no keys, updates if you forget to lock a door properly, heat and cool the car remotely. Dog mode is a game changer for me where the dogs can be in the car on a hot day the aircon keeps the car cool and can keep and eye on the dogs with the internal camera. Driver profiles that amend the seats automatically. Self driving... sounds gimmicky but in certain situations works really well!

Wish I'd done it sooner.

Still a petrol head but my daily is defined by what makes sense financially and comparing other diesel 7 seat cars with fuel, insurance, tax, loan and interest similar car were £1500 a month like a new disco. The model y worked out about a 1/3 the cost it's also 0% too nothing could really touch it as a new vehicle as all the others were 6-7%.

Probs going to get heat from this post but really really like it. Just have to get over the fact it's a Tesla and it's a fantastic product 😂

Just wish it was bigger, hopefully better deals on the Kia EV9s next time as we seriously considered one and loved it. Similar money total wise, but no deals they were considerably more expensive without the benefits. They are in a league of their own there is no elec equivalent.
 
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Noooooooo! :sleep:
Every other forum is people banging on about how they think they are saving the planet with their overpriced electric monstrosities and how much it costs at public charging stations, etc, etc.

Please discuss washing machines on domestic appliance forums only, thanks! :)
My abject apologies if your sensibilities have been offended. I can assure you that my reasons for making the change were not at all altruistic. We already have a charging point and this car will cost me a lot less to run than the Mazda. Annual road tax is £405 cheaper, my service plan now costs £12 as opposed to the £30 I was paying. Overnight charging is at cheaper rates etc etc. I saved over £10000 price on the new price. But most importantly I really enjoyed my test drive and I like something different for a change. That’s probably why I got on with you.😇👍😉😀
 
Tom it probably works because it fits your lifestyle, but wouldn't fit mine.

99% of the time it's only me in my car so I don't need 7 seats, don't want a 2+ tonne monster that needs the use of steps to wash the roof and have no coffee addiction, so I can do a pit-stop and refuel in 10 minutes!

Would be quicker in my 330i as I can get well over 400 miles from a tank.
 
Thanks for the observations/comments guys. Some things I would never have thought about, Tom. We have two dogs but the notion of leaving them in the car with aircon on would never have entered our minds.
Initial impressions are good. The car is quite quick and very smooth to drive. It’s a bit less bulky on the road than the Mazda was and it’s not black, which was a swine to keep clean. So we’ll see how things go.
 
Tom it probably works because it fits your lifestyle, but wouldn't fit mine.

99% of the time it's only me in my car so I don't need 7 seats, don't want a 2+ tonne monster that needs the use of steps to wash the roof and have no coffee addiction, so I can do a pit-stop and refuel in 10 minutes!

Would be quicker in my 330i as I can get well over 400 miles from a tank.
You're right — this is a thread about EVs, and I’m just sharing my real-world experience owning one.

The thing you're missing is that I’m only using Superchargers because it’s free with my car. Normally, you’d just charge at home overnight. Most cars sit parked 90% of the time, and EVs are designed to stay plugged in — they’re ready to go when you are. That 20-minute charge time people love to debate really only matters on long trips, which most people rarely do.

Range anxiety is blown way out of proportion. The average UK car journey is 8 miles. Realistically, how often do you drive 400+ miles in one go? My longest recent trip was Manchester to Brighton — around 200 miles in a single stint. Even if I drove to John O’Groats, that’s 358 miles and a 9-hour journey — and I’d want to stop at least once. You’re not driving coast-to-coast like in the US. Even at 70mph, 400 miles takes about 6–7 hours — by then, you need food, rest, a toilet break. The car will be done charging before you are.

And Tesla has idle fees — if you leave your car charged on a Supercharger for more than 5 minutes, they charge you £1 a minute — to move you on..

I still love jumping in the Z at the weekend — it's fun, raw, and feels special. But for daily use? I’d 100% go electric again. Petrol/diesel doesn’t appeal to me anymore. Running and buying costs are high, no insentives and new petrol/diesel cars are mostly underwhelming. Emissions regulations have ruined most of them — DPFs on diesels clog with short trips, AdBlue, Euro 5/6 complexity, etc. The whole generation has been plagued with issues.

Petrol cars now are either tiny-engine turbos or mild hybrids. Anything truly interesting is niche and £100k+. I had a JCW Clubman — 230hp, struggled to hit 35mpg on a motorway run, and by 80k miles it was facing expensive repairs (turbos, timing chain, etc.). Could’ve spent £5k keeping it alive — on a car worth £8k. Progress?

Even the fun stuff like an M3 Touring is now £100k+ once specced. And it's not even that big. I wanted something more spacious — even the old 340i Touring was £70k with a few options. Big estates? The new M5 is a hybrid.

Daily driving is mostly traffic, potholes, and school runs. For me, a daily just needs to get me from A to B with all our stuff, comfortably and reliably. That’s why I kept my Z4M for weekends and bought the Model Y for everything else.

Most people would be quietly impressed if they gave one a go. My dad was totally against EVs — until he drove mine. He was genuinely blown away. It’s not even the performance model — just the Long Range — but the instant torque is something else. I’ve owned plenty of fast 6-cylinder cars, and I daily’d my Z4MC for a year when I was 23, but I wouldn’t want to now. I still love the S54.

What makes the Model Y great is that it was designed from the ground up as a pure EV. Big frunk that fits a buggy, no transmission tunnel so loads of legroom, and a massive underboot. Even with all 7 seats up, I can fit two 20kg suitcases vertically and another buggy below. The rear seats also separate the dogs from the kids — no worries about loose animals in a crash. Most EVs built on petrol platforms can’t match that space.

Boot space? 850L with seats up, 2,000L seats down. And you can lease one for around £299/month — same money as something like a Vauxhall Corsa EV.

The BMW iX is another proper EV build, but it’s physically larger and still only has a 500L boot. The packaging of the Model Y just makes more sense.

If I had one complaint, it’s that it’s not the most luxurious — BMW still does interiors better. But in terms of practicality, safety, and ease of use, it’s ideal. Isofix, airbags everywhere, and great crash safety. With the size of modern SUVs — think 3-tonne Range Rovers, Discos, EV9s — I don’t want to be in a 20-year-old car if something goes wrong. That’s a big reason families move to SUVs. Safety matters.

Driving the Z now can actually feel a bit intimidating — it’s tiny compared to what’s on the road today. I can’t even take my son in it until he’s six because there’s no Isofix or airbag deactivation. Sometimes I wonder if I even want to anymore.

Bottom line: The government has made it very difficult and manufacturers aren't making appealing ICE cars. SUVs are the perfect candidate because they are taller more boot floor for battery's and more suitable especially if you’ve got a family. I'd still love to buy something like an E39 540i Touring brand new if I could, but those days are gone. Roads, laws, and priorities have changed.

EVs aren’t perfect, but once you drive one rather than repeating online opinion, its so easy to see they’re actually fantastic cars for everyday life.
 
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I get it.. it's like the old vinyl vs CD (and onto digital consumption) debate... there is something about vinyl that some people appreciate but not enough people to support the platform long term... same went for manual vs auto and now ICE vs electric. There will always be something special about a real engine in a car, but unfortunately they aren't going to last. I drive a 2013 3.0 A6 Avant diesel... it's been a trooper and am loathed to let it go, but I certainly would look at an electric for my next daily... my mileage is fairly low so I don't think I'd benefit massively from that, but I do like the idea of not having to fill up.
 
but I do like the idea of not having to fill up.
You do have to fill up if you go anywhere more than 100 miles in one go, though.
And 'filling up' with electrickery when out in the wild is an absolute rip-off. Per kW/h is around 3-5 times more expensive than using it at home.

EVs are great if you don't do long journeys (and like the idea of total silence with no character). Long journeys are expensive and take ages, as charging takes forever. I bet Starbucks' profits are soaring (even more) the more the unwashed masses get into cars with washing machine motors.
 
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@tomscott
Have you ever considered posting anything that wasn't as long as a novel?

I get bored after the first paragraph TBH. So whatever you said, I didn't read (not that it is very interesting usually). ;) :)
 
For me an electric car would make complete sense as most of my driving these days is local and like the idea of something silent running and more refined, I'm warming to likes of the Renault 5 or Hyundai Inster that are compact with a reasonable range.

The big if is I don't want a charger at home and I simply don't want to wait an hour somewhere to charge up.

Having said that BYD are now introducing their own network chargers that will charge at 1 megawatt or 1000kw so 5 minutes of charge will effectively give 400km of range and one charger can charge 2 cars at once. Now that is a game changer.

Tim.
 
For me an electric car would make complete sense as most of my driving these days is local and like the idea of something silent running and more refined, I'm warming to likes of the Renault 5 or Hyundai Inster that are compact with a reasonable range.

The big if is I don't want a charger at home and I simply don't want to wait an hour somewhere to charge up.

Having said that BYD are now introducing their own network chargers that will charge at 1 megawatt or 1000kw so 5 minutes of charge will effectively give 400km of range and one charger can charge 2 cars at once. Now that is a game changer.

Tim.
Most modern EVs can charge from 20% to 80% in around 20 minutes, but that’s starting to look slow compared to newer technology. For example, the new BMW iX3 (rated at 400kW) can add up to 230 miles of range in just 10 minutes of charging.
👉 BMW iX3 details

That said, finding a charger that can actually deliver those speeds is another story. Tesla Superchargers are among the fastest and most reliable, offering up to 250kW, but even then, speeds can vary.

As I mentioned earlier, if a station is busy, charging speeds can drop significantly. If you're parked between two other charging cars, the output may be shared and the session could take twice as long.

In the year I’ve owned my EV, I haven’t had any major issues, but having a home charger makes things a lot easier. Charging overnight using off-peak rates (around 7p/kWh) is far more economical than using public chargers, which can cost around 55p/kWh. At that point, petrol can actually be cheaper — especially considering that 1kWh translates to about 4 miles of range, depending on the car’s efficiency.

Its changing perception of how you use the car, if it is stationary, plug it in. Like a phone rather than a car. Slow charging is also much better for longevity.

One of the main reasons I went with a Tesla was the charging network — it's extensive, fast, and often comes with perks like discounted or even free charging for the first year.

Keep in mind, fast charging can put more strain on the battery, but there’s plenty of real-world data showing Teslas with 100,000+ miles still retaining over 80% battery health. In fact, there are countless stories of Teslas being used as taxis for hundreds of thousands of miles with minimal maintenance and excellent longevity.
 
I love the sound of an internal combustion engine, the tactile vibrations, the smells and how they change when a car is driven hard. A perfectly rev-matched, heel-and-toe downshift whilst braking hard into a corner, clipping the apex and then accelerating out at the limit of grip is always a joy. Unburnt fuel popping and banging in the exhaust on the over run when it has been earned, not mapped is its own reward. The quiet tick of cooling brakes is hypnotic in the silence after chaos has ended. I commute in my Exige until my ears are bleeding, then I use my Zed.
My wife recently replaced her Mercedes E Class coupe with a Taycan 4S and far from being soulless, it’s absolutely phenomenal. The handling is nuanced, the steering is talkative and the power delivery is comparable to a large-capacity, naturally aspirated engine.
It lacks any mechanical sound, but has an electronically generated sound that gives a very good sci-fi approximation of how the sound of an ICE changes with acceleration. It lacks the vibrations of an internal combustion engine, but offers a palpable downshift at full throttle. It’s still possible to generate the smell of hot rubber and even hotter brakes, just without the myriad smells of an engine worked hard.
It doesn’t give me everything I want from a car, but it reassures me that Porsche know how to make incredible drivers’ cars and with that I’m optimistic that I’ll still want to drive their cars in an electric future…..



……as long as I can commute in a 991.2 GT3 RS Clubsport😁
 
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