Simon 3.2M
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There some to be some aluminium “framed” ones on eBay that seem a reasonable alternative?
MrPT said:Doubt I'd be able to tell the difference as a driver, but I know that my struts towers are in a slightly different place when the car is jacked up vs when it's on the ground. That's enough for me.
RedUn said:For the M? I seem to remember some block access to the oil filter
Yeah I think that's right, I'm easily confusedsrhutch said:RedUn said:For the M? I seem to remember some block access to the oil filter
Only aware of this on the non ///M N52 engines.
nickw6666 said:'BMW engineers gave the Z4M a trianglated brace for the shock towers by tying in the fender rail and the firewall with the diagonal brace. Far superior to a bent bar going over the engine. So a strut bar will do nothing"
So which one is better? They're for underhood bling. Which one do you like the look of?
Thoughts?
Argenta said:nickw6666 said:'BMW engineers gave the Z4M a trianglated brace for the shock towers by tying in the fender rail and the firewall with the diagonal brace. Far superior to a bent bar going over the engine. So a strut bar will do nothing"
So which one is better? They're for underhood bling. Which one do you like the look of?
Thoughts?
Well, this dude is not an engineer - clearly.
IF you brace an area that was previously PLAIN AIR - you WILL have an effect. It's just a question of how much & if you will notice it as a driver.
Don't listen to fools.![]()
Argenta said:Well, this dude is not an engineer - clearly.
IF you brace an area that was previously PLAIN AIR - you WILL have an effect. It's just a question of how much & if you will notice it as a driver.
Don't listen to fools.
nickw6666 said:Argenta said:Well, this dude is not an engineer - clearly.
IF you brace an area that was previously PLAIN AIR - you WILL have an effect. It's just a question of how much & if you will notice it as a driver.
Don't listen to fools.
I don't really understand what you're saying here. :?
From what I understand, the quoted statement is that BMW have provided the required bracing with the standard diagonal brace set up. We know the chassis is already very stiff.
So I don't know the answer to this but I'm reading into this that BMW M Engineers felt the level of bracing was correct for the cars application. Now of course you can continue to stiffen, but the question would be would that improve things or actually detract from the handling set up?
I would think a strut brace would be a low cost item for BMW to fit if they thought they needed it, but then would it the case that the standard set up is fine for road use but if you are tracking the car regularly or want the extra bracing to sharpen the front even more at the expense of some compliance then you add a brace aftermarket etc?
Argenta said:Correct.
And, BMW themselves sold the brace as OEM accessory.
It just wasn't vital enough to put on every car they made, they saved that cost (not negligable).
mmm-five said:BMW also considered Contisport M3 tyres suitable for the Z4M as they’d been fine on the M3.
But they never seemed to work as well on the Z4.
They also signed off the terrible suspension.
Shows they don’t know everything.