Stone chips
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Car gets stone chips when driven on roads shocker.
Kwality thread.
Kwality thread.
enuff_zed said:Smartbear said:enuff_zed said:
Not that you drive faster than her at all?
Rob
Oh yes, on the theory that any stones from the car in front will still be up in the air as I whizz underneath 8)
My F20 1 series was Melbourne Red and in 30K kms I put on the car, I hardly had any stone chips at all just one or two very tiny ones on the bumper but that was it. I thinks it's more to do with crap on the roads and keeping your distance away from other cars that may throw up crap in your direction.
Swiftly said:
All car manufacturers paints have become softer and not so durable since they went to water based. Hence why you can see so much orange peel on these newer BMWs the older cars like the E39 E46 and earlier the finish of the paint was way better and more durable being solvent based. I believe the E85 should be solvent based since it was made around the same era as the E46?
Attleborough, Norfolk
Silverstar said:enuff_zed said:Smartbear said:Not that you drive faster than her at all?
Rob
Oh yes, on the theory that any stones from the car in front will still be up in the air as I whizz underneath 8)
My F20 1 series was Melbourne Red and in 30K kms I put on the car, I hardly had any stone chips at all just one or two very tiny ones on the bumper but that was it. I thinks it's more to do with crap on the roads and keeping your distance away from other cars that may throw up crap in your direction.
Yup, I do keep a decent distance, but most of my commute is a twisty, narrow B-road and most of the stones I hear hitting the car come from cars I meet coming the other way. Evidenced by the 2 new windscreens and 2 repairs it's had in less 30k miles!! I do still think the paint is pretty soft though, compared with older models.
enuff_zed said:
Yep as per my other comment on this thread since car manufacturers were forced to go to water based paint, it just isn't a durable as the old solvent based paints.
Stone chips are a PITA, for sure. I too have a red Z4, 2020 M40i, only 1K miles, but it could be due to a number of things.
Certainly paint chips are an issue for any car, but if it's worse than usual, it could be the contrast between base coat and top coat is high, e.g. red on white. It could also be abnormally brittle paint, or poorly adhered paint. I'd hope the Materials Engineers at BMW would have minimized those issues, but maybe not. Sorry I can't actually help you, but I'm in the same boat.
What I was wondering about is mud flaps. I have always insisted on them, adding them myself, if they weren't factory available. Our Toyota Highlander and MINI Cooper both have them as stock features. I'm concerned about the Z4. The wheel well shapes aren't bad, but I expect tar and stones will leave their mark. Has anyone found them as aftermarket items? Of course, they need to be well done, to blend in, to look good. Thanks,
Dave King
Certainly paint chips are an issue for any car, but if it's worse than usual, it could be the contrast between base coat and top coat is high, e.g. red on white. It could also be abnormally brittle paint, or poorly adhered paint. I'd hope the Materials Engineers at BMW would have minimized those issues, but maybe not. Sorry I can't actually help you, but I'm in the same boat.
What I was wondering about is mud flaps. I have always insisted on them, adding them myself, if they weren't factory available. Our Toyota Highlander and MINI Cooper both have them as stock features. I'm concerned about the Z4. The wheel well shapes aren't bad, but I expect tar and stones will leave their mark. Has anyone found them as aftermarket items? Of course, they need to be well done, to blend in, to look good. Thanks,
Dave King
Thanks for the post daveking350z. That’s a nice looking Z4 you have there!
I’ve touched in the two stone chips and had PPF put on the bonnet, wings and front bumper. That will hopefully help.
Now things have lifted a little here, I’m hoping to head to Germany in mine later this year and can relax a little knowing it has that protection.
Mid flaps may well be a worthy option, if you can find some that fit. They aren’t the most pleasing aesthetically, but if it solves the issue then got to be worth a try.
I’ve touched in the two stone chips and had PPF put on the bonnet, wings and front bumper. That will hopefully help.
Now things have lifted a little here, I’m hoping to head to Germany in mine later this year and can relax a little knowing it has that protection.
Mid flaps may well be a worthy option, if you can find some that fit. They aren’t the most pleasing aesthetically, but if it solves the issue then got to be worth a try.
Robsterrob
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Just a bump on this....I am finding I'm getting stone chips on the inside of wheel arches (where the red paint meets the black plastic) and some road rash along the side of the car at the rear of the arches.
I plan to tocuh in the full thickness chips on the wheel arches and machine polish the road rash, and then apply PPF to the areas affected, but a decent looking (say carbon?) mud flap would stop the problem dead. Has anyone found any?
I plan to tocuh in the full thickness chips on the wheel arches and machine polish the road rash, and then apply PPF to the areas affected, but a decent looking (say carbon?) mud flap would stop the problem dead. Has anyone found any?
Half the problem is the fact the roads are disintegrating and its a low sports car.
Mines done 70k and needs the bumper, bonnet and wings doing. Ive just got aero skirts and they will need doing to so half the car really
Then you respray and another chip will appear
Also depends on the car I loved my silver grey M coupe because it showed almost nothing, couldn't even seen swirl marks and was so easy to look after.
Imola is a nightmare and especially the paint being so hard getting old swirls out is quite a task.
Imola is gorgeous tho.... its just something that we have to put up with. Honestly PPF is wonderful but as my M is probably worth 14-15k it will cost 10-20% of its value to have it done and just doesn't make sense.
Also not sure if the cars better off with original paint and chips or resprayed and not original paint...
Mines done 70k and needs the bumper, bonnet and wings doing. Ive just got aero skirts and they will need doing to so half the car really
Then you respray and another chip will appear
Also depends on the car I loved my silver grey M coupe because it showed almost nothing, couldn't even seen swirl marks and was so easy to look after.
Imola is a nightmare and especially the paint being so hard getting old swirls out is quite a task.
Imola is gorgeous tho.... its just something that we have to put up with. Honestly PPF is wonderful but as my M is probably worth 14-15k it will cost 10-20% of its value to have it done and just doesn't make sense.
Also not sure if the cars better off with original paint and chips or resprayed and not original paint...
Robsterrob
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I was only going to have PPF installed in the areas behind the wheel arches that are affected - I’ve had this done on previous cars, and it’s hardly noticeable. But quality looking flaps would really help...
I just checked again, for good mud flaps that would look good on our red 2020 Z4 M40i (Looks just like yours, Wyldie85). Her's a response I got,
"Hi Dave, thank you for your interest - unfortunately, BMW does not currently offer a set of mud flaps for your 2020 Z4 M40i.
Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Thank you,
Jason Reighard
Internet Parts Rockstar
getBMWparts.com "
"Hi Dave, thank you for your interest - unfortunately, BMW does not currently offer a set of mud flaps for your 2020 Z4 M40i.
Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Thank you,
Jason Reighard
Internet Parts Rockstar
getBMWparts.com "
Sludgepump
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Not able to offer any help on this I'm afraid.
It must be a paint issue.
My E85 hasn't got any stone chips anywhere on the car and it's done 70K. I would be interested in the experience of
other E85 owners.
My old Chimaera on the other hand, used to attract stonechips like flies.
It must be a paint issue.
My E85 hasn't got any stone chips anywhere on the car and it's done 70K. I would be interested in the experience of
other E85 owners.
My old Chimaera on the other hand, used to attract stonechips like flies.
Robsterrob
Member
I found these online https://performancem.co.uk/choose-your-car/bmw/2-series/m2-f87-2015-to-present/ap-design-front-carbon-arch-guards-mud-flaps-m2-f87/
They don’t make them for our Z4’s, but I am talking to a carbon fabricator about making some - anyone else interested?
They don’t make them for our Z4’s, but I am talking to a carbon fabricator about making some - anyone else interested?
Years ago I had a Lexus that was peppered with stone chips all over the front lower spoiler and bonnet. Since then I have had paint protection film (PPF) on my last 6 new cars and all have avoided damage. Plenty of stone hits, but no damage. Average cost of full frontal PPF up to door mirrors is £1000. Money well spent as far as I am concerned. I drive it as I like without worry and still have a car that looks as good as new at any time. Car 7 due for PPF on 15 April.