Sport button?
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GAZA62 said:
When I had my E30 M3 and used her as my daily drive I was constantly being asked the MPG I got. I always replied "Who Gives A Flip"
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And with the price of petrol at the moment we can, AND with up to 20p off at Tesco that could mean less that £1.00 per litre.
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Was just thinking if anyone had got to sub £1 per litre. I just filled up and reser all of the computer settings. 112.4 for Momentum with 4p (I think) off. Sub £1 is achievable. Although you will have to be an avid Tesco fan to do it.
Stevo
Was just thinking if anyone had got to sub £1 per litre. I just filled up and reser all of the computer settings. 112.4 for Momentum with 4p (I think) off. Sub £1 is achievable. Although you will have to be an avid Tesco fan to do it.
Stevo
OT Continued :wink: I shop at Tesco because I have a privilege card that allows me a 10% discountstevo///m3 said:
so with a maximum 20p off, with Momentum @ 112.9 that means 92.9 ppl [I remember when I'd pay less than that per Gallon.... those were the days....... :roll: ]
As soon as the car is started up the sport button get's pressed. Makes no odds if it's town driving, motorway or wet. This is not a magical button that gives you instant extra power just a sharper throttle so once you get used to driving with this I find it odd to drive with it off. Steering is much nicer too
Makes no odds if it's town driving, motorway or wet. This is not a magical button that gives you instant extra power just a sharper throttle so once you get used to driving with this I find it odd to drive with it off. Steering is much nicer too Paulwirral
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I think it's a bit of a waste of time , makes barely any real world difference , sharpens the throttle and steering a tiny bit and makes a slightly different exhaust note , but really , a sports car should be optimised from the factory to start with . 
Cars are made for the general public - some manufacturers add a bit on for drivers.Paulwirral said:I think it's a bit of a waste of time , makes barely any real world difference , sharpens the throttle and steering a tiny bit and makes a slightly different exhaust note , but really , a sports car should be optimised from the factory to start with .
Don't like it, don't knock it, don't buy it.
I hear Vauxhalls are okay
The throttle travel is too long for me without the sport button on - it stays on in our Zed. Easier heel and toeing and makes the Zed feel alive.
It's surprising that throttle control seems easier with the sport button on.
The other thing I've noticed is that the mpg is slightly better with the sport button on than off. . . . :?
It's surprising that throttle control seems easier with the sport button on.
The other thing I've noticed is that the mpg is slightly better with the sport button on than off. . . . :?
thepits said:
The throttle doesn't have to be pressed as far to match the engine speed when changing down - allows me to concentrate more on the amount of pressure being used on the brake at different parts of the approach to the corner. I find it means less twist needed at the ankle and then the angle of the sole of the shoe to brake pedal is less acute which for me leads to more sensitivity.
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) Do you not find the throttle travel too long on the standard setting?
paulgs1000 said:The throttle doesn't have to be pressed as far to match the engine speed when changing down - allows me to concentrate more on the amount of pressure being used on the brake at different parts of the approach to the corner. I find it means less twist needed at the ankle and then the angle of the sole of the shoe to brake pedal is less acute which for me leads to more sensitivity.
(Sounds like a condom advert
wow!1/ with synchromesh there is no need to heel & toe, it's a waste of time.
2/ you can change gear without a clutch, so
3/ left foot brake.
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Paulwirral said:I think it's a bit of a waste of time , makes barely any real world difference , sharpens the throttle and steering a tiny bit and makes a slightly different exhaust note , but really , a sports car should be optimised from the factory to start with .
Have to agree hardly makes any difference to throttle or steering and YES this sort of sports car should be optimised from the factory on this simply issue.
paulgs1000 said:thepits said:
The throttle doesn't have to be pressed as far to match the engine speed when changing down - allows me to concentrate more on the amount of pressure being used on the brake at different parts of the approach to the corner. I find it means less twist needed at the ankle and then the angle of the sole of the shoe to brake pedal is less acute which for me leads to more sensitivity.
(Sounds like a condom advert
Do you not find the throttle travel too long on the standard setting?
Hah, yep, no need perhaps but I enjoy the high revs and much prefer to match the engine revs rather than being solely dependent upon the synchro. I love the noise of the engine and it's a technique I've always enjoyed using. I think my mpg would probably improve without it
.I know nothing about left foot braking.
Again, do you not find the throttle travel too long on the standard setting?
1) is it? Don't you mean that there's no need to double de-clutch? Synchro or not, you still get destabilising engine braking if you don't rev match on a downshift.thepits said:paulgs1000 said:The throttle doesn't have to be pressed as far to match the engine speed when changing down - allows me to concentrate more on the amount of pressure being used on the brake at different parts of the approach to the corner. I find it means less twist needed at the ankle and then the angle of the sole of the shoe to brake pedal is less acute which for me leads to more sensitivity.
(Sounds like a condom advert
1/ with synchromesh there is no need to heel & toe, it's a waste of time.
2/ you can change gear without a clutch, so
3/ left foot brake.
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I also noticed that the mpg is higher with Sport on, but I think that's mainly because you get used to it and learn to not over-throttle.
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thepits said:Cars are made for the general public - some manufacturers add a bit on for drivers.Paulwirral said:I think it's a bit of a waste of time , makes barely any real world difference , sharpens the throttle and steering a tiny bit and makes a slightly different exhaust note , but really , a sports car should be optimised from the factory to start with .
Don't like it, don't knock it, don't buy it.
I hear Vauxhalls are okay
I think vauxhalls have a similar button
MrPT said:1) is it? Don't you mean that there's no need to double de-clutch? Synchro or not, you still get destabilising engine braking if you don't rev match on a downshift.thepits said:paulgs1000 said:The throttle doesn't have to be pressed as far to match the engine speed when changing down - allows me to concentrate more on the amount of pressure being used on the brake at different parts of the approach to the corner. I find it means less twist needed at the ankle and then the angle of the sole of the shoe to brake pedal is less acute which for me leads to more sensitivity.
(Sounds like a condom advert
1/ with synchromesh there is no need to heel & toe, it's a waste of time.
2/ you can change gear without a clutch, so
3/ left foot brake.
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I also noticed that the mpg is higher with Sport on, but I think that's mainly because you get used to it and learn to not over-throttle.
Absolutely - that's what was meant when I commented on using high revs - simply 'banging' it into second would destabilise the Zed at a crucial set up for a corner - it's not double de-clutching as you say - it's matching the engine revs to the speed to bring about a smooth change and keep the Zed balanced whilst still being able to brake.
I'm afraid I know nothing of left foot braking but imagine it would put a great deal of stress on drive line and brake components so I can't see any other method for smooth gear-changing that keeps the Zed balanced even with synchromesh in play. . . . I believe some modern auto gearboxes match engine revs on changedowns - that's what heel and toeing does in effect.
Interesting that you too find mpg is higher with the sport button on - I'd think it might be due to the shorter throw getting to the higher revs without a build up through a more relaxed build up of speed. It's that old question of does fast acceleration to speed beat a slow acceleration over a longer time to get to speed. . . .