Show the 2.0i some love

[Steve84N]

Straight sixes are smoother, it's the only inherently balanced engine configuration. However, a well sorted 4 cylinder is certainly smooth enough.

It might have 150bhp for a small part of the rev range but a six actually has at least 150bhp in the normal working range so it's much easier and more relaxing to make normal progress in a six. Of course you can keep up with normal traffic in a 2.0, everyone drives like Miss Daisy these days. There's still plenty of opportunities to enjoy 261bhp, I'd prefer 350-400bhp but I certainly wouldn't want just 150bhp as it just doesn't give you the same level of options for dispatching slow drivers.

It is true to say that more six pot Zs will have a higher spec than four pot Zs but there are clearly still plenty with good options too.

In other words there is truth in most of the posts written but ultimately the six has more to offer. If you don't feel you want that extra then a 2.0 will do just fine.

 

[MACK]

I am so sorry if you feel your being Cyber Bulled.

I'm not giving into cyber insults/bullying because someone doesn't like what I'm saying.

now you've got yourself a little cheerleader to revel in your 2.0 luvfest together. Hope you'll be very happy!

Seems you two definitely have a case of "small engine syndrome"

Your therapist will tell you "you know you wont be truly happy to you do!" Oh no wait, I forgot you've got that Audi R8 sorry I meant A1. #Billy BS

unlike you two clowns I'm clearly light years ahead in at least knowing something about what hell I'm talking about. Seriously posting MOT history as proof that a car hasn't had engine issues now WTF is that about, how ridiculous! As for ESP aka Mr Billy BS, enough said really!

A word of advice, if your going to talk BS and try to brag at least be good at it and don't get caught out lying! Change your signature Mr Audi A1 TFSI Sline!!!

If anything your ramblings just reinforce your clueless, or maybe you've got distracted from the actual point of all of this whilst curtain twitching at your imaginary R8!

Cant win the argue, then HUMILIATE YOURSELF as being a Billy BS.

WTF is that the best you can do! #Billy BS
I think you find I'm been the rationale honest one, your the one who's full of it, deluded

why dont you just admire your photos of your M badge, or your quad exhaust for that matter! Dont get too excited, wouldn't want you to have any little accidents
Or maybe you could post a piccie of your R8 " or at least the R8 badge your A1 is no doubt wearing!!!!
# Mr BS!!!

There's Talk and Banter, light hearted and argumentative chat,
and then there's YOU who doesn't seem to have a clue about how ignorant he is and quickly ignores other peoples posts, replies and opinions back at you. In my opinion (in reply to your many insults) your a very sad obnoxious person.

Do you think your attitude to other forum remembers is totally normal and inline with others? Your entitled to a opinion but only if you can respect other peoples! And dont expect everyone to agree with your's just because its what you say.

Its clear you totally ignore and brush over replies that point out where your not actually correct and just keep shouting about something else like a child throwing its toys out of the pram. The 3.0 isn't Smoother, nor the 4 pot 'un smooth' and on the whole Spec and options are swings and round about's on both models, 2.0 came with a 6 speed box for example, at least post face lift. Also the option from the factory to have M-Sport Seats & multi function Steering wheels, electric seats, sat nav..... etc etc there are high spec and low spec examples out there of ALL Z4's.

"Billy BS" lol, you throw that insult about but have managed to brush over the your error again shout about something else. Dont worry it doesnt actually bother me, just made me chuckle

You really can't leave it alone. You accuse me of all sorts when your guilty of all of the very things you firing at me. Conviently missing things like when i acknowledged ive been no saint in this. More than you have ever done. Anything I have said about the 2.0 engine is fact. If you knew anything about engines you would know that a 4 pot isn't as smooth as 6. Is a scientific fact, no argument. This all started with your post having a right go at folks and I asked you where your manners are and correct the other nonsense you'd writen. You didn't like someone doing that and threw your toys out and generally had a tantrum. You took this whole crapfest to where it ended up. I just followed, like I said no saint here but I certainly didn't start it!

You really need to look in the mirror mate your certainly no victim!quite frankly I might be an a hole, but as a holes go your the champ!

 

[ESP]

(Obviously i know nothing about engines, right?? (again, presuming, abusing, insulting, turning a debate into childish trash talk (that you cant back up))) Im not talking about statistic's read online, im saying in the real world

SMOOTHNESS

4 pot isn't as smooth as 6. Is a scientific fact, no argument.

Does it effect the driving experience, Nope.
Is it then a factor to consider when buying, NO its not in anyway.
Your making out this difference in resonation is a major drawback. Its just a very minor characteristic on a lab enviroment.
Is the 4 pot noticeable un'smooth? Its already been mention by several 3.0lt and a M owner that NO the 2.0 is not in anyway unsmooth.

Conviently missing things like when i acknowledged ive been no saint in this

I am still waiting for acknowledgement regards to that apparently im Billy Bull s**t and have a imaginary R8? You happily brought that up countless times, over and over, correct?
I choose to ignored it as not to be pretentious.

Acknowledged your wrong on what i drive
thats all, are you humble enough

 

[Machine monkey]

I guess my post didn’t stop the arguing then!!!

As Steve says a straight six will be more balanced by its nature and the combustion cycles. 4 pots v engines any other configuration will have to have added mechanical features to balance the engine. Some are done better than others. I personally don’t like 4 cylinder engines. No idea why i just don’t. But the 2.0 z4 i have driven didn’t seem bad.

 

[Savage]

I guess my post didn’t stop the arguing then!!!

As Steve says a straight six will be more balanced by its nature and the combustion cycles. 4 pots v engines any other configuration will have to have added mechanical features to balance the engine. Some are done better than others. I personally don’t like 4 cylinder engines. No idea why i just don’t. But the 2.0 z4 i have driven didn’t seem bad.

A 3 pot is probably the easiest/cheapest to "smooth"

I'm new here, is there a "naughty corner" someone could put the children in while the grown-ups talk sensibly?

Also - and I have learnt this over years and years of managing an exclusively "Alpha" environment - give people a common enemy and they bind together.

So, you're BOTH being incredibly childish, irrespective of "who started it" one of you needs to man up and stop it. I strongly suspect it would never have gone this far had we all been in a room together - for one things someone would have banged your heads together and bought you an ice cream to distract you..

 

[paulgs1000]

Crikey . . . .

And to think I was delighted to see this thread when I saw it posted up . . .

Amongst other things, I'm now made aware I've got 'small engine syndrome' . . . 8)

but I loved my little err. . . . engine.

Thinking about it, that could explain why I like to wang my big M about :wink:

Never mind the 2 litre, I think there's a few folk on here need to be shown some love . . . . :thumbsdown:

 

[Savage]

I like to wang my big M about :wink:

Yes, but I understand the restraining order should stop you from doing that in future

 

[paulgs1000]

I like to wang my big M about :wink:

Yes, but I understand the restraining order should stop you from doing that in future

:lol:

 

[andyfanshawe]

I still love my 2.0i
i suppose i am in a unique position here....I build big capacity V8 american engines and american custom cars. Minimum size of 5.7 litres. max size 10 litres. Beautiful engines, smooth and very very torquey.
i also drive customers 3.0 z4's, 2.5 z4's and my humble 4 banger 2.0.
And to be perfectly honest, the difference in smoothness between all of them is very small.

Andy.

 

[MACK]

(Obviously i know nothing about engines, right?? (again, presuming, abusing, insulting, turning a debate into childish trash talk (that you cant back up))) Im not talking about statistic's read online, im saying in the real world

SMOOTHNESS

4 pot isn't as smooth as 6. Is a scientific fact, no argument.

Does it effect the driving experience, Nope.
Is it then a factor to consider when buying, NO its not in anyway.
Your making out this difference in resonation is a major drawback. Its just a very minor characteristic on a lab enviroment.
Is the 4 pot noticeable un'smooth? Its already been mention by several 3.0lt and a M owner that NO the 2.0 is not in anyway unsmooth.

Conviently missing things like when i acknowledged ive been no saint in this

I am still waiting for acknowledgement regards to that apparently im Billy Bull s**t and have a imaginary R8? You happily brought that up countless times, over and over, correct?
I choose to ignored it as not to be pretentious.

Acknowledged your wrong on what i drive
thats all, are you humble enough

Oh Ok, so now your resorting to cyber shouting at me as well as everything else you thrown at me. All in some pathetic attempt to get your way! You clearly too stupid to realize this, so I will have to tell you, your just proving all me points , tantrums, bullying, trolling because I refuse to see it your way, oh dear! Get you head out of the sand!
Fact number 1, the 4 pot isn't as smooth as the 6's, stop whinging on about it!
Fact number 2, the smoothness is noticeable when you drive cars with both engines to the vast majority of drivers. Yes of course some wouldn't notice, but that says more about them than it does about the engines.
Fact number 3, Pretentious is exactly what you are. YOUR the one that tried to argue that because you own/owned this or that car (including an R8 that YOU BROUGHT UP!) then that somehow means your the best qualified to comment and therefore win the argument by default! WTF, I said it before but applying your logic that makes every premiership footballer a motoring Oracle then!

Just give up mate, your not going to convince me of anything, in fact the longer this crap goes on the less knowledge/insight I think you actually have and the more immaturity!
Bottom line is I know I'm right, you think your right (despite being so clearly wrong in so many ways !) We're never going to agree and shouting me down and be abusive,(the very thing YOU STARTED right back at the beginning of the other thread) isn't going to change a damn thing, the facts are the facts. I'm not anti 2.0 but as a buyer today why buy a 2.0 when you can have a more powerful, smoother and more reliable engine in the same car, with a high standard spec for the same sort of money?! :? :? :? I just cant understand why people aren't be honest about this. If you put two cars in front of most buyers at similar money and assume MPG and insurance aren't critical, ones got and engine thats PROVEN itself to be unreliable and the other is much better in this respect then who's going to buy the one that more likely to let you down and cost you a lot of money? That's before you consider the other factors I've mentioned over and over! Honestly I think despite everything you have said that even you would buy something other than a 2.0 if buying today, given the above.
Nothings change for me, nothing will change when it comes to my opinion on the subject end of! I'm not out to get at 2.0 owners, like I have said a million times the initial thread was about buying today and what they should go for.

Seriously at this point if I did start to agree with you on anything I would be now be thinking "what the hell is wrong with me and where's the nearest shrink!"

 

[Smartbear]

I'm really glad bmw never made a 1.6litre zed, somebody would have been shot by now!
Rob

 

[Machine monkey]

I'm really glad bmw never made a 1.6litre zed, somebody would have been shot by now!
Rob

 

[Ewazix]

How about fitting a turbo to the 2.0? :scratchhead:



:wink:

 

[Machine monkey]

How about fitting a turbo to the 2.0? :scratchhead:
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Good god don’t start poking that hornets nest!!!

 

[Smartbear]

How about fitting a turbo to the 2.0? :scratchhead:
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:wink:

My 2.0 already has one :wink:
Rob

 

[Artful-Bodger]

How about fitting a turbo to the 2.0? :scratchhead:
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:wink:

I would seriously consider a Sprintex supercharger on the 2.0 for a track car, keep the weight down and the balance, of course if you were competing in Sprints and Hillclimbs that would put you in the over 2000cc class.

What would be interesting is stripping a 2.0 down, get rid of the crap like aircon and cd players, ABS, the roof and window motors and associated gubbins, bet you could get a fair few kilo's out of a Z4, then with that 4 pot sitting right back in the bay and the low centre of gravity it wouldn't be difficult to build a beast of a hillclimber for the up to 2000cc class!

 

[Marlon]

Seriously at this point if I did start to agree with you on anything I would be now be thinking "what the hell is wrong with me and where's the nearest shrink!"

. . . . . perhaps you should see one anyway - the first session is free apparently :wink:

 

[Pastry]

annnnnnnd they're off...... :slappy: :lol:

 

[Nictrix]

Just as well there wasnt car forums around in the 70s. Can you imagine the arguments with Escort owners over 940s, 1100s, 1300s, 1600s, 1800s and 2.0L :lol:

 

[Smartbear]

Just as well there wasnt car forums around in the 70s. Can you imagine the arguments with Escort owners over 940s, 1100s, 1300s, 1600s, 1800s and 2.0L :lol:

Those 1100's were crap, couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding :lol:
Rob