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samZ4M

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The tyres on the M look low, probably only 1mm left till the markers, with a 750 mile trip soon and winter coming, figured its best to get some more rubber on them.

What's best to go with? OEM conti's or are Falkens still good (I heard the 453's are no where near as good). Bearing in mind the front's won't be changed as they're fine (Conti's on the front).

Any chain companies you trust, my local garage took a chuck out of my last cars wheel, and said "prove it"....
 
IMO if your not changing the fronts I'd stick with OEM.
Only because I have OCD about mixing brands I like all 4 to match :oops:
 
Looking at mid range tyres for a car such as the M doesn't make sense to me.

With that said, I've the 453's on mine and absolutely love them.

They have a lot of grip in the dry.
 
While I've run 3 sets of Falkens and they are great, if I were driving an ///M with the extra performance and temptation to use it, then I'd be paying for premium rubber.
 
I wouldn't worry about not matching brands front to rear as there's probably more difference front-to-rear due to the change in width & profile, than there would be by changing to a different performance tyre.

If they're OEM Conti M3s then you'll find any of the new breed are much better (Vred Vorti, Michelin Supersports, Goodyear F1A2, Continental SC5, etc.).

If money's no object then the Michelin SuperSports - but I don't think the 255/40/r18 is in the shops yet (but it's coming, but I'm happy using 265/40r18 all year round) - for around £200.

Alternatively, you can find the excellent Goodyear F1 Assymetric 2 (£140 each), or Continental SportContact 5 (£184 each) - compared to the £130 for the Falken FK453.

You could also have a look at this recent tyre test (although you may note that the Michelin PS3 is very close to the top 2, but the Michelin Supersport is not tested as it's not available in the tested size - yet is even better than the PS3 for the same price).
 
samz4 said:
So you're saying premium tyres, are conti's the right ones though?
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I'm saying you can get one of the best tyres out there (the F1 Asymmetric 2 - and the '2' is important) for about £10 a corner more than the Falkens.

The Falkens aren't bad by any means, but they won't last as long, so you end up paying out sooner for new tyres.
 
cj10jeeper said:
While I've run 3 sets of Falkens and they are great, if I were driving an ///M with the extra performance and temptation to use it, then I'd be paying for premium rubber.
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I've done plenty of laps at The Ring with Falken 452s on my Z3MC and unless you're going for R compound tyres they've got all the grip you'll ever need for road use.
 
damnit, now 2 sizes are coming up.

255/35/R18
255/40/R18

The car has 40's on it, so do I keep it the same? What should they be for the standard Z4M rim?
 
samz4 said:
damnit, now 2 sizes are coming up.

255/35/R18
255/40/R18

The car has 40's on it, so do I keep it the same? What should they be for the standard Z4M rim?
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255/40r18
 
everybody slates the contis on the m, but nobody explains why they are supposedly shite, i have never found lack of grip a problem unless i am playing on a slow corner in the wet, i find even with traction off the back hunkers down and the diff gets the power down with loads of grip.please explain :poke:
 
mad4slalom said:
everybody slates the contis on the m, but nobody explains why they are supposedly shite, i have never found lack of grip a problem unless i am playing on a slow corner in the wet, i find even with traction off the back hunkers down and the diff gets the power down with loads of grip.please explain :poke:
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it will become even more evident WHY they are so s**t when you change to a better tyre, i genuinely believe that tyre led to most of the disspointing reviews on the z4m at the time of launch... the Really let the car down.
 
Beedub said:
mad4slalom said:
everybody slates the contis on the m, but nobody explains why they are supposedly shite, i have never found lack of grip a problem unless i am playing on a slow corner in the wet, i find even with traction off the back hunkers down and the diff gets the power down with loads of grip.please explain :poke:
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it will become even more evident WHY they are so s**t when you change to a better tyre, i genuinely believe that tyre led to most of the disspointing reviews on the z4m at the time of launch... the Really let the car down.
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I'm also mystified as to why the OEM Contis get slated. I've only ever driven my Z4MC with these tyres but they are NOT the weak point of the OEM car: that accolade belongs to the suspension (and the geometry). When I took my Z4MC to The Ring in June, finding the optimum tyre pressures made quite a difference (2bar all round when cold), but I didn't find that running OEM pressures was that bad and the car behaved very predictably when I was properly utilising the slip angle at speed. God knows what some Z4M owners must do on public roads to consider them bad? I started driving in the day when cars were fitted with cross ply tyres, and cars sliding on corners was par for the course, so all tyres have continuously improved since then. Sure there will be more grippy tyres than the OEM Contis, but what makes them bad?

I must say though, I'm looking forward to driving the car on Michelin PSS or some R Compound rubber.
 
I did some one-to-one tuition with Andy Walsh at North Weald -- admittedly it was in an MR2. But anyway, he said if you have different rubber front and rear you have no chance. I competed against some people who only realized this mid-season and it showed in their results.
 
carl said:
I did some one-to-one tuition with Andy Walsh at North Weald -- admittedly it was in an MR2. But anyway, he said if you have different rubber front and rear you have no chance. I competed against some people who only realized this mid-season and it showed in their results.
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Performance wise, a 265/40/18 101Y PSS may be as different to a 'matching' 225/45/18 95Y PSS as it is to a 225/45/18 Goodyear F1A2 or Conti SportContact 5. Same would go for having brand new fronts and part-worn rears (or vice versa).
 
I need to change my tyres but will probably get the advan neova AD08R. they should e really good and apparently also have grip n the wet. Mind you we don't get the rain you get inte uk over here. Anyone considered these? I got a quote from th uk delivered to Malta for all 4 for about 1100 euro. I was quoted 1000 euro for Fred's in Malta so that's not too bad. Michelin pss were about 1300

Kerstien
 
kerstien said:
I need to change my tyres but will probably get the advan neova AD08R. they should e really good and apparently also have grip n the wet. Mind you we don't get the rain you get inte uk over here. Anyone considered these? I got a quote from th uk delivered to Malta for all 4 for about 1100 euro. I was quoted 1000 euro for Fred's in Malta so that's not too bad. Michelin pss were about 1300

Kerstien
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My only concern with 'track-focussed' rubber is that it will last 5k miles, so you end up paying 2x the price for the same mileage (180 rating for the AD08R vs 300 rating for the PSS).
 
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