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Little Bob
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NorthernSky said:Evening!
Congratulations on this. Funnily enough, we both have the same old car - S2000 - and I've also picked up a Z4MC which was ALSO located in Edinburgh! Small world! ALSO ALSO ALSO have the CSLs, and YES. Do it. You must.
Photos of mine are on this forum and the gallery one also, though a different blue. Like your gunmetal alloys on this. Let me know if you're in the Berkshire/Bucks area and we can 'compare notes'.
Tom
How did you find your S2000?
I'm considering one at the moment, any advice welcome
Sohailnisar
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I think the S2000 is a fantastic car.
I posted some of my thoughts on the Z4M earlier - which is more or less just a comparison.
Essentially the Z4M is more refined, then engine is just WOW and it feels far more planted.
The S2000 - that gearbox - nothing compares, a pleasure rowing through the gears. Engine not as powerful, but full of character. A lot snappier and not much in the way of driver aids to fall back on.
I posted some of my thoughts on the Z4M earlier - which is more or less just a comparison.
Essentially the Z4M is more refined, then engine is just WOW and it feels far more planted.
The S2000 - that gearbox - nothing compares, a pleasure rowing through the gears. Engine not as powerful, but full of character. A lot snappier and not much in the way of driver aids to fall back on.
Sohailnisar
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Lower said:
Spoke to my local BMW.
Apparently parts to retrofit the Isofix no longer available
Little Bob said:NorthernSky said:Evening!
Congratulations on this. Funnily enough, we both have the same old car - S2000 - and I've also picked up a Z4MC which was ALSO located in Edinburgh! Small world! ALSO ALSO ALSO have the CSLs, and YES. Do it. You must.
Photos of mine are on this forum and the gallery one also, though a different blue. Like your gunmetal alloys on this. Let me know if you're in the Berkshire/Bucks area and we can 'compare notes'.
Tom
How did you find your S2000?
I'm considering one at the moment, any advice welcome
Evening, are you by any chance the guy asking this question also on Pistonheads?
Basically, the engines are rock solid - it's the protection (or lack of) underneath. Luckily it's not quite an epidemic like some Japanese cars of this decade of production, but still worth checking for rust. They will all have some degree of surface erosion, just be careful of examples with it in the usual suspect areas like the arches and sills.
Mine is for sale soon, but not listed anywhere yet... In lime green, one of four left in the UK. But from memory you want a very low mileage one, unless I am confusing you with someone else off PH.
T
Little Bob
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NorthernSky said:Little Bob said:NorthernSky said:Evening!
Congratulations on this. Funnily enough, we both have the same old car - S2000 - and I've also picked up a Z4MC which was ALSO located in Edinburgh! Small world! ALSO ALSO ALSO have the CSLs, and YES. Do it. You must.
Photos of mine are on this forum and the gallery one also, though a different blue. Like your gunmetal alloys on this. Let me know if you're in the Berkshire/Bucks area and we can 'compare notes'.
Tom
How did you find your S2000?
I'm considering one at the moment, any advice welcome
Evening, are you by any chance the guy asking this question also on Pistonheads?
Basically, the engines are rock solid - it's the protection (or lack of) underneath. Luckily it's not quite an epidemic like some Japanese cars of this decade of production, but still worth checking for rust. They will all have some degree of surface erosion, just be careful of examples with it in the usual suspect areas like the arches and sills.
Mine is for sale soon, but not listed anywhere yet... In lime green, one of four left in the UK. But from memory you want a very low mileage one, unless I am confusing you with someone else off PH.
T
Yes, I have popped a wanted note on the PH Honda forum for a low mileage S2000, nothing quite right has come up as yet.
Lime green, love to see some pictures if you have chance to mail me?
No harm in letting me know the spec and price you're looking for.
Rust is certainly on the check list for viewings, probably my biggest concern tbh.
I disagree on the S2000 bullet proof engine front having had to have replacement engines in both the S2000's i owned.
Two things kills these engines. Running low on oil and over revs.
The pre 04 engines use a lot of oil and if owners do not appreciate this and don't top them up between services the engines suffer.
Secondly, its easy to over rev on a down change and this damages the valve stem retainers on the earlier engines. The valve stem retainers then fail some time down the line and a dropped valve ruins an engine. That is exactly what happened to the engine in my first S2000. A previous owner had over rev'ed it and i bought it with 27k miles on it. The valve stem retainer failed 3k miles later, dropped an inlet valve and ruined the engine. Thankfully, Honda covered it under warranty but with the age of the car those days are long gone.
If i was buying another one i would make sure i bought an 04+ car. The engines used less oil and its less likely that one of those engines will have been run low on oil. I 'think' they also had upgraded valve stem retainers.
The second S2000 i owned i bought new. It needed an new engine at 17k miles as it had a faulty oil pump. However, i was either unlucky or taking the car on a trackday having only done 600 miles wasn't a good idea
Two things kills these engines. Running low on oil and over revs.
The pre 04 engines use a lot of oil and if owners do not appreciate this and don't top them up between services the engines suffer.
Secondly, its easy to over rev on a down change and this damages the valve stem retainers on the earlier engines. The valve stem retainers then fail some time down the line and a dropped valve ruins an engine. That is exactly what happened to the engine in my first S2000. A previous owner had over rev'ed it and i bought it with 27k miles on it. The valve stem retainer failed 3k miles later, dropped an inlet valve and ruined the engine. Thankfully, Honda covered it under warranty but with the age of the car those days are long gone.
If i was buying another one i would make sure i bought an 04+ car. The engines used less oil and its less likely that one of those engines will have been run low on oil. I 'think' they also had upgraded valve stem retainers.
The second S2000 i owned i bought new. It needed an new engine at 17k miles as it had a faulty oil pump. However, i was either unlucky or taking the car on a trackday having only done 600 miles wasn't a good idea
Lower said:I disagree on the S2000 bullet proof engine front having had to have replacement engines in both the S2000's i owned.
Two things kills these engines. Running low on oil and over revs.
The pre 04 engines use a lot of oil and if owners do not appreciate this and don't top them up between services the engines suffer.
Secondly, its easy to over rev on a down change and this damages the valve stem retainers on the earlier engines. The valve stem retainers then fail some time down the line and a dropped valve ruins an engine. That is exactly what happened to the engine in my first S2000. A previous owner had over rev'ed it and i bought it with 27k miles on it. The valve stem retainer failed 3k miles later, dropped an inlet valve and ruined the engine. Thankfully, Honda covered it under warranty but with the age of the car those days are long gone.
If i was buying another one i would make sure i bought an 04+ car. The engines used less oil and its less likely that one of those engines will have been run low on oil. I 'think' they also had upgraded valve stem retainers.
The second S2000 i owned i bought new. It needed an new engine at 17k miles as it had a faulty oil pump. However, i was either unlucky or taking the car on a trackday having only done 600 miles wasn't a good idea
clearly a man that knows his s**t..... basically any engine thats highly strung already needs lots of love, s54.. whatever.... the same principles apply.
Hi Sohailnisar,
Nice car and welcome to the club
I just wanted to share my list of 'must do' upgrades since they increased the pleasure of owning a Z so much (for me at least).
- CDV delete, just get rid of that shitty thing.
- RTAB limters, better and predictable handling when cornering under load.
- VibraTech engine mounts, bought them initially to improve shift behaviour (less engine movement) but to my surprise got much improved overall handling! Difficult to explain but car feels more like one solid piece which improves steering feel etc.
- Suspension, standard fitting is not BMW's finest hour, I've fitted Eibach Pro Kit (cheap solution) which already is a massive improvement in handling and look but much better (and more expensive) solutions are available.
Just my 2 cents, enjoy your ride
Nice car and welcome to the club
I just wanted to share my list of 'must do' upgrades since they increased the pleasure of owning a Z so much (for me at least).
- CDV delete, just get rid of that shitty thing.
- RTAB limters, better and predictable handling when cornering under load.
- VibraTech engine mounts, bought them initially to improve shift behaviour (less engine movement) but to my surprise got much improved overall handling! Difficult to explain but car feels more like one solid piece which improves steering feel etc.
- Suspension, standard fitting is not BMW's finest hour, I've fitted Eibach Pro Kit (cheap solution) which already is a massive improvement in handling and look but much better (and more expensive) solutions are available.
Just my 2 cents, enjoy your ride
Sohailnisar
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Thank you for that Rene_Z4MC.
That's a nice little run down of mods - a few I was considering and a few I hadn't - food for thought.
Is it normal to have so much engine movement on shifting? Might explain what I can only explain as a 'wobble' when shifting - especially if I rev to about 3k in first and put the clutch in. It's really quite odd. But yeah I'm really considering the VibraTech engine mounts.
The Eibach springs are high on my list too.
That's a nice little run down of mods - a few I was considering and a few I hadn't - food for thought.
Is it normal to have so much engine movement on shifting? Might explain what I can only explain as a 'wobble' when shifting - especially if I rev to about 3k in first and put the clutch in. It's really quite odd. But yeah I'm really considering the VibraTech engine mounts.
The Eibach springs are high on my list too.
Sohailnisar said:
I think it is, but the VibraTechs will solve that issue.
That being said, I've had the car for more than 4 years and still sometimes struggle to get a smooth gear change, especially 1st to 2nd takes some skill. I was really surprised that engine mounts also changed the handling, its so much more composed now. And I'm talking about normal road use, not even on the track. Good mod.
I stated that my list was 'must do', by that I mean that they offer a lot of bang for your bucks, good value.
Each of those mods are not too expensive and they all improve the car a lot (IMHO) :wink:
Sohailnisar
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Thought I'd share some photos from a recent drive to Whitby...
Sohailnisar
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RickRob said:Hi and congratulations, not just for a fine-looking Zed but also for repatriating one back from Scotland!
First mod should be to restore it to its former glory by fitting a whippy. Thereafter, knock yourself out!
Enjoy
Thank you! Yep was a long way to go - but going through Kielder Forest on the route back made it worthwhile, great way to get to know the car.
Haha - that stubby was my first mod!
Sohailnisar
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The Z is having a bit of work done and could do with a bit of advice, this is my service history...
The second to last stamp was ticked by a numpty - I've confirmed with Peter Vardy it was an Inspection 1. So in terms of mileage the last Inspection 1 was pretty recent. When should I next have it serviced and would it be oil service again?
I'm trying to get hold of the Vibra-Technic engine mounts from a seller on here, confirmed I want them but struggling to get a reply about sending the cash over.
The plan is to get everything together and for next service get engine mounts and CDV delete done. After that I'll see what I think of the car.
It's booked in for a detail next month so pics of that will follow.
The second to last stamp was ticked by a numpty - I've confirmed with Peter Vardy it was an Inspection 1. So in terms of mileage the last Inspection 1 was pretty recent. When should I next have it serviced and would it be oil service again?
I'm trying to get hold of the Vibra-Technic engine mounts from a seller on here, confirmed I want them but struggling to get a reply about sending the cash over.
The plan is to get everything together and for next service get engine mounts and CDV delete done. After that I'll see what I think of the car.
It's booked in for a detail next month so pics of that will follow.