Please Help!!

The dash lights should be totally ignored tbh, they're linked to coolant temp which has nothing to do with the oil obviously. The lights go out on mine between 50 - 75c oil temp which is nowhere near hot enough to be taking into 7k+ plus range or lower IMHO. About 85c upwards is a good target for more spirited driving, mine never goes above 100 unless really pushing on and the summer heat!
 
original guvnor said:
I normally keep revs below 3k until all of the lights are out and progressively increase revs as the oil temperature reaches its normal operating temperature.

You're missing out though Mr W not exploring North of 5k. The 5k-7.9k is a lovely experience and noise. There's also a lot more BHP to access too. :driving: :thumbsup:
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I do plan to explore the boundaries come October when i dock on French soil , even in Scotland i was stretching things & without risk of leaving the tarmac never found the need to get over 5k , i find the gears quite unusual tbh , 1 & 2nd seem to want to come & go asap , 3rd is my favourite but before i know it its in 4th then 5th & i'm looking for cameras or plod :cry: at times feels like a bird in a cage & think France is the place for me & this car :oops: ive been over in a good few 300bhp + cars & the roads seem far more accomodating :oops:
 
Similar warm up process for me, and I purposely book a hotel far enough away from the 'Ring to ensure the car is up to temp in case I get lucky and arrive at the barrier just as the track is opening :P

Even on a track day, the first couple of laps are used to warm everything up before canning it.

113,000 miles on the new engine, and 136,000 on the original clutch/flywheel :poke:

Or maybe I've been given one of those lower power, but more reliable n54 engines instead :P
 
I find it weird that the normal position for temp is not vertical as it is on the other water temp Zs.

90 is just squif, and looks strange to me, given the engineering elsewhere.

Or is it just mine?

I adopt the slow warm up too, annoying though as both journeys to the motorway from home & work are the exact time I need the power to overtake so just trundle along behind a slower vehicle.
 
mj2k said:
I find it weird that the normal position for temp is not vertical as it is on the other water temp Zs.

90 is just squif, and looks strange to me, given the engineering elsewhere.

Or is it just mine?

I adopt the slow warm up too, annoying though as both journeys to the motorway from home & work are the exact time I need the power to overtake so just trundle along behind a slower vehicle.
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It's not water temp though - it's oil temp.

The only water temp you'll see is when it's overheating, and a yellow/red thermometer pictograms appears.
 
An intravee lets you see real time coolant temp, but tbh I've never checked it on the move.
 
I know it's oil temp, by why couldn't the normal temp be vertical, ie calibrate / design the dial so 90 was central vs to the left. The water temp in normal Zs being vertical when at temp is just nicer to glance down at. Yes, u have OCD with these sorts of things :lol:

Looked at coolant temp on the intravee & it's up there within a few minutes, so useless as a guide!
 
mj2k said:
I know it's oil temp, by why couldn't the normal temp be vertical, ie calibrate / design the dial so 90 was central vs to the left. The water temp in normal Zs being vertical when at temp is just nicer to glance down at. Yes, u have OCD with these sorts of things :lol:

Looked at coolant temp on the intravee & it's up there within a few minutes, so useless as a guide!
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It must be a 'design' feature as it was the same 5 to 12 position on my M5s.
 
Bing said:
An intravee lets you see real time coolant temp, but tbh I've never checked it on the move.
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If you customise the music info display, you can have it in front of you virtually all the time
 
BMWZ4MC said:
Have you considered incompetence?! They may not be terribly familiar with the S54 as its not be used in a new car for 6-7 years.
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Main dealer techs are not idiots...

Like in any job, if you are crap you will get found out. The dealers can't have techs running up grands worth of work for no reason..
Having worked in dealers as a tech, workshop controller and a manager I just can't see the thought process behind doing loads of work that wasnt needed .. It wouldn't go unnoticed by the tech or the team above him..


So what I mean is that a job of this size wouldn't have been done on a whim by a spotty faced kid who was fresh at the job..
 
Z4M-2006, I remembered your background from something you've posted before hence my earlier question about the car being undrivable if it had spun a bearing. I still can't understand why they would have dropped the bottom of the engine and changed the bearing shells when the fault seemed to be localised to the top of the engine. It's always hard to speculate from a distance but it doesn't seem to add up. I can envisage a scenario where someone inexperienced with the S54 knew of the bearing shell issue with the early M3s and put two and two together to make seven.
 
Z4M-2006 said:
Main dealer techs are not idiots...
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...obviously not all...

...but in my experience (10 years of e34s taken to dealers as I knew no better) I've had a couple of instances (out of a lot of visits) where the master technician has been training someone and simply signed off the work without actually checking that it's been completed properly.

All were relatively minor in the grand scheme of things as they were either spotted as soon as the car was started or caught by the time I got home a relatively short distance away.
  • no/low coolant after a £1400 inspection & thermostat change, luckily warning light on immediately;
  • brake pedal to the floor after fitting new brakes;
  • oil filler cap not fitted after a service so by the time I got home the oil light was on and the filler cap was resting on the scuttle panel - covered in oil like the rest of the engine bay and underside of the car.
In all those cases they've simply topped up the fluids and sent me on my way. It even took two letters to the DP to get them to steam clean the engine bay FFS.

Hence you may see my history on here or M5Board showing I've gone further & further afield to find a trustworthy/reliable dealer. When I got the Z4, and had to take it to dealers for the warranty terms, I had one visit which gave me some concerns and I started UV marking service parts to ensure they were replaced as they should be. 90% of the time everything went as it should - the other 10% were minor like reusing air filter or not replacing cam chest gasket.

It's not just the fact that they're getting little things wrong - and make you wonder about the bigger things - but the fact that they insinuate that you're lying about the issue and don't see why they should rectify/apologise :headbang:

If anyone wants the dealer name then I'm happy to tell them by PM who I'd advise they avoid. Although I assume the staff there will have changed by now if they were regularly that useless - or maybe other customers just don't care?

Rant over. Sorry for lack of profanities :P
 
Oh I agree...

Servicing will be done by kids and should be checked on every occasion..

The whole set up of bonus related pay within the industry should be scrapped and decent wages should be paid..
The scale of pay in dealers is usually very poor for the techs, and people will naturally want to earn more money .. At the expense of quality..

But for a job like dropping the bottom end out of an S54 and doing an oil pump and rod bearing change is really a " specialist" job and non of the younger techs would get near it...

Well.... That's how it was when I was in the dealers, but times may have changed... But knowing how the structure of work is set out and how it's paid for I doubt the job was undertaken lightly..


I also can't see why this job was undertaken at all without clearance from warranty or confirmation from the OP..

Someone has given the go ahead for £2500+ of work.. If not, nobody has to pay for it..
 
Unfortunately, the OP might have given permission without knowing there was potential that he was being mislead.

To echo mmm-five's experiences (but of no relevance to Z4M-2006's point), after some routine work Berry Chiswick returned my car with no coolant and a broken window regulator complete with greasy handprint on the glass of a window which was stuck half open. They left it parked in the rain like that and told me "It was like that when you left it with us mate".... :headbang:
 
Guys those bearings may not be the knocking but they definitely need replacing..... They are worn way past acceptable limits , the people saying those bearings have acceptable wear are talking poo. The copper showing means serviceable life has long gone, if the bearing hasn't spun it was a matter of time.

From what I'm reading from my terrible wifi here In rhodes is the cams are also worn so what we are trying to determine what's caused these failures. Please excuse typos.
 
It's interesting that mine at the same mileage showed no wear even with heavy track use.
 
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