Plan B Covid measures

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The only one I would comply with is the working from home. I have been working from home since 18 March 2020 and basically loving it !

The vaccine passport is evil, I don't know what I will do if they institute that here in Pennsylvania. The state of New York has the "Empire pass" for theaters, restaurants etc.

Masks: the only time I wear them is when in a doctor's office. IMO and from what I have read, they are basically worthless and actually cause one harm. I did buy a 10 pack of masks from Amazon that are made from mosquito netting. I will wear one of those should a mask mandate for all be re-instituted. Our governor has lifted the mask mandate for all fully vaccinated people...Seems like 95%+ are "fully vaccinated"...Yeah I know that I am (wink-wink).
 
Look to places such as Portugal, who have regulations similar to our proposed Plan B. Their infections and death rates are a fraction of ours.

I dont see that wearing a mask in public places and working from home are particular hardships, especially considering that another Christmas in lockdown is the likely alternative.
 
Trying to educate and convince the same people that queued for petrol a few weeks back and voted for brexit irrespective of the consequences? Not much chance there I fear.
 
Colin_E said:
In France at the moment and have been here for a couple of weeks. Masks & passports are obligatory in all bars and restaurants and masks only in shops etc. Compliance is surprisingly good in a country famed for its readiness to protest. Vaccination levels & boosters are marginally ahead of UK but I doubt that the difference is big enough to influence outcomes. Yet infection rates here are 10% of UK levels and both hospitalisations and deaths substantially lower too. I don’t see these measures having an adverse impact on the economy either. Hotels and restaurants are full. My conclusion therefore is that if the same few small measures would cut infections in UK by a similar level we might avoid another lockdown which is surely a worthwhile trade-off?
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I was checking the vaccination figures between France and the UK, but France have the Pfizer vaccine and we had primarily AZ. As the infection rates for fully vaccinated is not split by vaccination type, we can’t compare really as AZ was always lower in protection compared to Pfizer. Hence the booster is Pfizer only.
 
pvr said:
Trying to educate and convince the same people that queued for petrol a few weeks back and voted for brexit irrespective of the consequences?
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That's interesting - I didn't know that there was a statistical correlation between voting for Brexit and queueing for petrol... Can you post a link to the study that proved this?
 
PerryGunn said:
That's interesting - I didn't know that there was a statistical correlation between voting for Brexit and queueing for petrol... Can you post a link to the study that proved this?
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He is being a 'Mark Anthony' who picked the biggest and deepest wound in Ceaser and said that this was where his best pal Brutus thrust his dagger. He did not have a clue, and neither does pvr about the correlation between Brexit and queuing for petrol.
 
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The question was about whether the public would comply to a new plan. I am just highlighting how well that went when the public was asked not to panic buy petrol, i.e. nobody listens to what is best for all but looks after No 1.
 
pvr said:
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The question was about whether the public would comply to a new plan. I am just highlighting how well that went when the public was asked not to panic buy petrol, i.e. nobody listens to what is best for all but looks after No 1.
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The panic buying petrol analogy was ok, Brexit not so much (and let's not derail onto Brexit)
 
Saw this and it made me chuckle…
 

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I'm amazed that after 18 months people still don't grasp one single, simple concept. A mask is not designed to keep viruses OUT, it's designed to stop YOU from spreading them. It doesn't protect the wearer, it protects the people around them. Unless you're unlucky enough to be around our member from Pennsylvania of course.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Flu figures this year here in Scotland since masks are still mandatory in most public areas. Compliance here in the Highlands is pretty good, apart from the odd English tourist :headbang:
 
I have saved all the threads that ramble on about Covid 19 for months on end in a mostly circular fashion.
In a couple of years time, when Covid 20 appears, I'll repost them and save you all the effort of making just a couple of opinions last for 30 pages. :poke: :rofl: :rofl:
 
I still wear a mask in every public place (indoors) and will for the foreseeable future. I wear glasses but have a PP3 fully-fitted mask which doesn't steam them up.
I voted for Brexit.
I didn't buy fuel while the queues were happening.
I haven't caught Covid (yet).
I'm not sure what the above makes me!

Any Plan B will not work. You can't go backwards.
We have a personal choice; we all know enough about the virus to make that choice. Unfortunately too many people are making the wrong one.
 
In terms of complying- they are the rules so I wouldn't break them no matter if I feel they are ridiculous or not.

In terms of shutting down society and working from home again- why would we? Pretty much at the end of this virus now aren't we? A good chunk of people have had the C and the vulnerable can keep getting jabs until they catch the virus and get immunity also.

I have only put a mask on once since there was an option not to and that was when I took the dog to Vets and I asked the lady if it would make her feel more comfortable if I put one on and she said yes.

I do a quick spay on the trolley at the super market and i now grab the petrol pump with some tissue/towel but that is all that has changed my side. And now you have made me think about it I should really stop.
 
was in Ireland for work last week

every restaurant- no covid passport, no entry
outdoor spaces (think retail parks etc) facecovering mandatory
very high number of people wearing masks

I was impressed

I still wear my mask usually, and I'm double jabbed and I had COVID a month ago, so more out of respect for the greater good?
 
Masks seem to be mentioned in many replies, this from an article...with the link to the article if you care to read it.

#1. Masks lower oxygen levels in the blood.

#2. Masks raise carbon dioxide levels in the blood.

#3. Masks trap exhaled viral pathogens thus increasing viral load and severity of disease.

#4. SARS CoV-2 becomes more dangerous when blood oxygen levels decline.

#5. Masks give a false sense of security.

#6. Masks divert exhaled air and pathogenic plumes into the eyes.

#7. Masks are dangerous for people with pre-existing medical conditions.

#8. Cloth masks increase risk of contracting respiratory infections, including Covid.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-top-8-ways-covid-face-masks-are-harmful.html

FWIW
 
Old-Duckman said:
Masks seem to be mentioned in many replies, this from an article...with the link to the article if you care to read it.

#1. Masks lower oxygen levels in the blood.

#2. Masks raise carbon dioxide levels in the blood.

#3. Masks trap exhaled viral pathogens thus increasing viral load and severity of disease.

#4. SARS CoV-2 becomes more dangerous when blood oxygen levels decline.

#5. Masks give a false sense of security.

#6. Masks divert exhaled air and pathogenic plumes into the eyes.

#7. Masks are dangerous for people with pre-existing medical conditions.

#8. Cloth masks increase risk of contracting respiratory infections, including Covid.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-top-8-ways-covid-face-masks-are-harmful.html

FWIW
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Am sure there are some decent points in there, but you have ruined the credibility of your post by citing naturalnews.com
 
Old-Duckman said:
Masks seem to be mentioned in many replies, this from an article...with the link to the article if you care to read it.

#1. Masks lower oxygen levels in the blood.

#2. Masks raise carbon dioxide levels in the blood.

#3. Masks trap exhaled viral pathogens thus increasing viral load and severity of disease.

#4. SARS CoV-2 becomes more dangerous when blood oxygen levels decline.

#5. Masks give a false sense of security.

#6. Masks divert exhaled air and pathogenic plumes into the eyes.

#7. Masks are dangerous for people with pre-existing medical conditions.

#8. Cloth masks increase risk of contracting respiratory infections, including Covid.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-top-8-ways-covid-face-masks-are-harmful.html

FWIW
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"China flu"

"Sheeple"

Your source is hardly confidence inspiring is it?

You do realise there is enough oxygen in a person's exhaled breath to oxygenate the blood of another person? It's how rescue breaths/CPR work so you really think a face mask is going to be a problem?
 
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