Plan B Covid measures

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Firstly, this is a genuine query and please don't go off track the way this subject usually does discussing the ethics of the vaccine, the Science and the Pandemic in general. I may regret this but here goes......

Scientists (SAGE at least) and as of today Labour, are calling for the Govt to commence plan B and make mask wearing compulsory again, working from home where possible and Covid Vaccine passports to be introduced from now.

Question, would you comply? Do you think many would?

Personally, having had Covid and as of yesterday I am now triple jabbed, I would refuse any of these measures where possible.
 
No, enough is enough. Nothing else left to be done, you can’t hide forever.
 
We’ve eaten out three times this last week, my partner and I wear a mask to enter a pub/restaurant and take it off as we sit down. Two things we get strange looks and we are definitely in the minority in wearing masks. We went to see James Bond a few weeks ago, a subtitle screening, where the audience was relatively old, we were the only two wearing masks.

I just don’t understand why, I have family, friends and colleagues who have caught it, all of them were double jabbed, most were bed ridden for three or four days but fortunately none were hospitalised and that’s the thing, the vaccine dramatically reduces the frequency of hospitalisation and death. It does not however, guarantee this and people are still dying in significant numbers. What’s the most troubling is the higher the infections the greater the risk of a mutation that sends us back to the beginning.
 
I wear spectacles and have had three jabs. If you choose your masks carefully it is possible to minimise spec steaming up. In our seventies, with some health issues we have continued to wear masks in shops etc. We also try to keep a reasonable distance from others. We would welcome Plan B and be happy to comply. Anything to protect others and ourselves from this terrible illness.
 
Frankly, mask wearing and working from home are just sensible precautions you can take to protect yourself from flu, the usual barrage of winter colds and COVID. I wear glasses and find that some masks work better than others. Wearing glasses doesn’t affect working from home.

I’m not much in favour of COVID passports though, as this starts to become an infringement on civil liberties, and I’m not entirely convinced that the vaccine stops you catching COVID in the first place although people certainly seem to get less ill because of it.
 
The only masks that make sense are the ffp2 masks, the others, especially cloth ones, have little or no protection.

The weirdest experience was getting new glasses few weeks back, mask wearing required during tests (test equipment steams up so not great) but for fitting the glasses you take the masks off. Very odd as it all defeats the object then.
 
Don't think it really matters what is done now, people won't comply so I wouldn't be suprised for another lockdown come Christmas. I'm guessing the figures are rising as school kids are passing it around and its the unvaccinated ending up in hospital which is still a reasonable chunk of population who thought their invincibility would see them through so didn't bother with the Jab in the first place :cry:

I've got another month to go until the booster jab, will get that and I still where a mask regardless, its only a sodding mask so not a big deal to wear in shops or crowded places. I've been in the office the past month but only because my boss was applying pressure to go back in because as he is going in then everyone else should :roll: However I may from this week stop going back in again. Prefer working working from home anyways now.

We don't have to lock ourselves away but just take sensible measures which aren't being observed anymore.

Tim.
 
Must interject at this early juncture with two observations,

1. So far a good range of views sticking to the topic, pleasantly impressed
2. Was the Bond film any good?
 
Bond film excellent, about a killer virus - how appropriate :oops:

My biggest protection is by avoiding crowds which is not difficult as I hate crowds anyway. Never use public transport and carry antibac and won’t touch anything (or antibac if I have to open a public door). I avoid places where face masks are required (unless medical places).

So if plan B comes into play, It shouldn’t impact me as far as I can see as I don’t go to those places anyway. My office is mine so no change for me there anyway and I don’t have visitors any more for work.
 
In France at the moment and have been here for a couple of weeks. Masks & passports are obligatory in all bars and restaurants and masks only in shops etc. Compliance is surprisingly good in a country famed for its readiness to protest. Vaccination levels & boosters are marginally ahead of UK but I doubt that the difference is big enough to influence outcomes. Yet infection rates here are 10% of UK levels and both hospitalisations and deaths substantially lower too. I don’t see these measures having an adverse impact on the economy either. Hotels and restaurants are full. My conclusion therefore is that if the same few small measures would cut infections in UK by a similar level we might avoid another lockdown which is surely a worthwhile trade-off?
 
Personally I'd rather have Plan B now on the basis I'm not convinced we'll get through the winter without another Lockdown becoming essential.

I still wear masks in shops now, clean trolley handles and use hand gel after I'm finished. I don't care if it seems overkill to some, I'll do anything I can to avoid getting it. I'm lucky in that I get 10 pairs of Contact lenses a month so I use them on the days I plan to wear a mask! I did find masks and specticles a real pain the odd occasion I wore both, not just for the steaming up issue but the ear-pieces getting caught up.

I'm also due my third jab next month.

I'm undecided on vaccine passports - there seem to be 2 opposing viewpoints, and both have their merits!
 
The UK now has the highest volume of Covid cases and also the highest number of non mask wearers and as for social distancing, it is not happening. We British, or people living in Britain are really silly, aren't we.
 
sars said:
I just don’t understand why, I have family, friends and colleagues who have caught it, all of them were double jabbed, most were bed ridden for three or four days but fortunately none were hospitalised and that’s the thing, the vaccine dramatically reduces the frequency of hospitalisation and death. It does not however, guarantee this and people are still dying in significant numbers.
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I find the figures trotted out by the government and media every night to be very annoying as they don't really tell you anything.

In Greece the daily figures tell you not only the infections and deaths but also the age range of those in hospital, whether or not they have been vaccinated and also whether they have any underlying medical issues. Our government have these statistics so why don't they release them

My wife is a nurse in a large hospital and their staff have been told to put covid on the death certificate wherever possible. She had a 94 year old patient with a serious heart condition who came into the hospital to die, caught covid in the hospital so his death was put down to that.

The government can talk about getting vaccinated as much as they want but if professional footballers refuse the vaccine people will follow their lead rather than the government so perhaps the government should lean on the football clubs not to play those who haven't been vaccinated - fat chance
 
Ian J said:
sars said:
I just don’t understand why, I have family, friends and colleagues who have caught it, all of them were double jabbed, most were bed ridden for three or four days but fortunately none were hospitalised and that’s the thing, the vaccine dramatically reduces the frequency of hospitalisation and death. It does not however, guarantee this and people are still dying in significant numbers.
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I find the figures trotted out by the government and media every night to be very annoying as they don't really tell you anything.

In Greece the daily figures tell you not only the infections and deaths but also the age range of those in hospital, whether or not they have been vaccinated and also whether they have any underlying medical issues. Our government have these statistics so why don't they release them

My wife is a nurse in a large hospital and their staff have been told to put covid on the death certificate wherever possible. She had a 94 year old patient with a serious heart condition who came into the hospital to die, caught covid in the hospital so his death was put down to that.

The government can talk about getting vaccinated as much as they want but if professional footballers refuse the vaccine people will follow their lead rather than the government so perhaps the government should lean on the football clubs not to play those who haven't been vaccinated - fat chance
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Personally speaking I’d rather follow the governments advice instead of a footballer, they tend to know a bit more about it :thumbsup:
Rob
 
Ian J said:
My wife is a nurse in a large hospital and their staff have been told to put covid on the death certificate wherever possible. She had a 94 year old patient with a serious heart condition who came into the hospital to die, caught covid in the hospital so his death was put down to that.
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That is what can skew statistics. My former brother-in-law was in a hospice last year with terminal cancer, but because he died within 28 days of a positive Covid test the death certificate had Covid on it. :?
 
I'm avoiding getting vaccinated due to being sh!t-scared of having an adverse reaction such as myocarditis, pericarditis etc.
I ended up in hosi for 3 months in 2004 with pericarditis and nearly kicked it so there's absolutely no fekin way on earth I'm willing to put myself at risk of having a bout of that again! It took about 3 years to fully recover. :cry:

I'd rather take my chances and if I catch COVID statistically I'll probably recover a damn sight easier from that than from pericarditis!
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