Philips accident

The media have jumped on this story and started printing all sorts of rubbish. It's pretty sad.

Stories such as the prince being a fast driver and being aggressive.

For christ sake, the man was unfortunate to be driving in what appears to be a massive accident blackspot and has paid the price. There are accidents every single day, yet all of a sudden because it's Philip, it's suddenly a problem for older people to drive.

Yes some older people clearly have issues with driving, but it seems this was just an unfortunate accident.
 
Crazy Harry said:
Nictrix said:
Crazy Harry said:
Calls now for drivers over a 'certain age' to have licenses removed. At least the Duke has others who will drive him. All the other poor buggers that live in rural Norfolk villages have to drive well into their 80's and 90's because there's no other way - no buses or Uber. It's very easy to make sweeping statements when you live in a metropolitan area well served by public transport compared to an area where village shops have closed; its a few miles into town and some communities haven't got off dial up internet yet - and don't get me started about the lack of mobile phone signal - 5 bars when I visit my lad in Coventry 1 bar if I'm lucky in some parts of our house is the best I can expect :thumbsdown:
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This might open a can of worms but maybe if people cannot drive and would need public transport to get around they should stay closer to places that offer this instead of out in the sticks.
Also maybe in these out of the way areas if people were not so self reliant, buses, taxi firms or uber would move in and set up business, or local shops would open back up to serve those people.
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Yes its a can of worms ... and sadly not a practical alternative for many old people who have been rooted in their community for a life time. The way bus contracts are issued results in each route supporting its self instead of one company servicing a wider area. My Mam would rather take her chances driving than face isolation in an urban area. The only saving grace might be driver-less cars.
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It doesnt seem to be the way bus contracts are handed out here. As far as I have been told in the past the bus companies have to service an area and part of that might include journeys that are not profitable but to keep the contract for the good well paying routes they must also provide a service to the other areas too.
We have a few local services here that are practically mini buses that travel between villages and towns taking people to the shops and we are not even out in the sticks. These services could be set up anywhere.
 
Crazy Harry said:
Calls now for drivers over a 'certain age' to have licenses removed. At least the Duke has others who will drive him. All the other poor buggers that live in rural Norfolk villages have to drive well into their 80's and 90's because there's no other way - no buses or Uber. It's very easy to make sweeping statements when you live in a metropolitan area well served by public transport compared to an area where village shops have closed; its a few miles into town and some communities haven't got off dial up internet yet - and don't get me started about the lack of mobile phone signal - 5 bars when I visit my lad in Coventry 1 bar if I'm lucky in some parts of our house is the best I can expect :thumbsdown:
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Internet....mobile phone....Jesus h Christ how the f**k did people survive pre and post war....!! :roll: :poke:
 
john-e89 said:
Crazy Harry said:
Calls now for drivers over a 'certain age' to have licenses removed. At least the Duke has others who will drive him. All the other poor buggers that live in rural Norfolk villages have to drive well into their 80's and 90's because there's no other way - no buses or Uber. It's very easy to make sweeping statements when you live in a metropolitan area well served by public transport compared to an area where village shops have closed; its a few miles into town and some communities haven't got off dial up internet yet - and don't get me started about the lack of mobile phone signal - 5 bars when I visit my lad in Coventry 1 bar if I'm lucky in some parts of our house is the best I can expect :thumbsdown:
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Internet....mobile phone....Jesus h Christ how the f**k did people survive pre and post war....!! :roll: :poke:
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Don't know John, what did you do before the war :P :rofl:
 
firebobby said:
john-e89 said:
Crazy Harry said:
Calls now for drivers over a 'certain age' to have licenses removed. At least the Duke has others who will drive him. All the other poor buggers that live in rural Norfolk villages have to drive well into their 80's and 90's because there's no other way - no buses or Uber. It's very easy to make sweeping statements when you live in a metropolitan area well served by public transport compared to an area where village shops have closed; its a few miles into town and some communities haven't got off dial up internet yet - and don't get me started about the lack of mobile phone signal - 5 bars when I visit my lad in Coventry 1 bar if I'm lucky in some parts of our house is the best I can expect :thumbsdown:
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Internet....mobile phone....Jesus h Christ how the f**k did people survive pre and post war....!! :roll: :poke:
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Don't know John, what did you do before the war :P :rofl:
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Pastry speak to your ‘oppo will you...he’s out of control.... :x
 
A retest after every every 10 years of holding a driving licence could raise the standard of driving.

Theory and practical.

There are not that many jobs where competence is checked only once at the beginning and then never really check again now the roads are so busy and driving standards slipping downwards this could be a good thing.
 
I recon he took one for the team to distract everyone from Brexit
 
PDJ said:
A retest after every every 10 years of holding a driving licence could raise the standard of driving.

Theory and practical.

There are not that many jobs where competence is checked only once at the beginning and then never really check again now the roads are so busy and driving standards slipping downwards this could be a good thing.
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In 2014 there was 45.5 million licenses in the uk - your full test every ten years would mean an extra 4.55 million tests a year!
Or 12.5k tests a day every day of the year! I don’t think it could ever happen.
 
john-e89 said:
Crazy Harry said:
Calls now for drivers over a 'certain age' to have licenses removed. At least the Duke has others who will drive him. All the other poor buggers that live in rural Norfolk villages have to drive well into their 80's and 90's because there's no other way - no buses or Uber. It's very easy to make sweeping statements when you live in a metropolitan area well served by public transport compared to an area where village shops have closed; its a few miles into town and some communities haven't got off dial up internet yet - and don't get me started about the lack of mobile phone signal - 5 bars when I visit my lad in Coventry 1 bar if I'm lucky in some parts of our house is the best I can expect :thumbsdown:
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Internet....mobile phone....Jesus h Christ how the f**k did people survive pre and post war....!! :roll: :poke:
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Did the same as everyone else I expect - which is kind of the problem now. Banks have closed branches (12 miles to the nearest branch of my bank now - not even in my nearest market town) and firms insist on sending details/confirmations and purchase transaction codes by SMS the world is internet and smart phone but not everyone has access - if fact there was more coverage in rural India when I visited the other year than in many locations I've been to in the UK. Coverage in the UK seams to be driven by covering a percentage of population - easier in urban areas or along trunk routes rather than in the sticks. My point is an increasing part of managing to keep going in a rural area is being able to keep driving. Personally I'd rather choose to drive with 80+ year people on the roads who are most likely insured; slow and perhaps over cautious in most cases than take my chances with the drunk; drugged up or uninsured lot I have no choice about now.
 
ronk said:
PDJ said:
A retest after every every 10 years of holding a driving licence could raise the standard of driving.

Theory and practical.

There are not that many jobs where competence is checked only once at the beginning and then never really check again now the roads are so busy and driving standards slipping downwards this could be a good thing.
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In 2014 there was 45.5 million licenses in the uk - your full test every ten years would mean an extra 4.55 million tests a year!
Or 12.5k tests a day every day of the year! I don’t think it could ever happen.
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We manage to test all the cars every year. Testing drivers every ten years is not an issue if we decided to just do it.
 
NickDE said:
We manage to test all the cars every year. Testing drivers every ten years is not an issue if we decided to just do it.
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We could start with the group that causes the most serious and fatal accidents, the 17-24 year olds. Oh bugger, they recently past a test. To retest drivers every few years would require a change in law voted for in parliament. The MPs voting would also have to resit tests. Do you honestly think they would vote for that?
 
BeeEmm said:
NickDE said:
We manage to test all the cars every year. Testing drivers every ten years is not an issue if we decided to just do it.
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We could start with the group that causes the most serious and fatal accidents, the 17-24 year olds. Oh bugger, they recently past a test. To retest drivers every few years would require a change in law voted for in parliament. The MPs voting would also have to resit tests. Do you honestly think they would vote for that?
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... or, should you have an accident which is 50/50 or your fault, then you need to have a retest.
 
Jembo said:
... or, should you have an accident which is 50/50 or your fault, then you need to have a retest.
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A court could order that, yes. It happens now. My view is stronger, I believe that if you are involved in an accident, in many cases you could have avoided it, even if the law says not. As an example could the driver who collided with Phillip's car anticipated better that he was about to emerge in front of her, if her driving was at a higher standard? It is all about driver training and awareness and anticipation. If she was driving with dipped headlights, could he have seen her and waited? :poke:
 
BeeEmm said:
Jembo said:
... or, should you have an accident which is 50/50 or your fault, then you need to have a retest.
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A court could order that, yes. It happens now. My view is stronger, I believe that if you are involved in an accident, in many cases you could have avoided it, even if the law says not. As an example could the driver who collided with Phillip's car anticipated better that he was about to emerge in front of her, if her driving was at a higher standard? It is all about driver training and awareness and anticipation. If she was driving with dipped headlights, could he have seen her and waited? :poke:
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That didn't take long to start blaming the other driver :lol:
 
It is not blame, it is a hypothetical case to improve driver awareness and avoid accidents. The clue is in the words 'As an example.' I anticipated your comments, although surprised that it came from someone who may be a motorcyclist.
 
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