Panamera yes or no ?

The rapide beats it hands down in the looks stakes. Panamera and Cayenne's are pretty ugly looking things to me.
 
Panameras do ok residually I believe...but yes you're right, a lot of them lose shed loads in the first year.
 
They are wonderful to drive, lovely to be in, go like stink but dont do it for me in the looks department at all really.
 
Hated the look of the Panamera several months ago but then went on a trip to Miami they seemed to be absolutely everywhere. They grew on me massively and now with the revised facelift that's just happened I'd consider one if I needed a 4 door car. I think Porsche's are moving in the right direction though at the mo, the new Boxster is the first I'd consider putting money down for! Beautiful!
 
If I would be buying a saloon, and wohld be considering panamera, i would definatelly go for maserati quatroporte - theres a lot of panameras in krakow - cant drive throug the city center without seeing one, and onky 2 or 3 quatroporte's

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If I really really had to have a fast super saloon then it would have to be this

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I have been lucky enough to have been given a brand new Panamera S on a couple of occassions as a courtesy car while my Cayman was in for some work and I say lucky enough because it was an incredible drive.

I wouldn't get one yet, but maybe in ten years time, I can't think of anything better to cruise around Europe in.

It is way too big for British roads, it is marmite in the looks department, but never have I driven a more comfortable and accomplished car than the Panamera.

And for the record I love the looks
 
I don't mind the looks. Coming at you in the rear view mirror they are pretty hard to ignore. My problem is that lots of footballers have them :thumbsdown:

OG. I think I said in my thread about my mates GT3 that it was more usable as an everyday car than the GT3 RS. After doing a 200 mile trip in it last weekend I've changed my mind. It's just as unusable. If you do anything more than about 10 miles a day don't even think about it unless you have a 28inch waist with narrow shoulders, titanium spine and no hearing.
 
Mowflow said:
OG. I think I said in my thread about my mates GT3 that it was more usable as an everyday car than the GT3 RS. After doing a 200 mile trip in it last weekend I've changed my mind. It's just as unusable. If you do anything more than about 10 miles a day don't even think about it unless you have a 28inch waist with narrow shoulders, titanium spine and no hearing.

Thanks Mowflow - I think the only solution is a long, extended test-drive!!! y'know just to check you're right! ;) :D
 
I saw a fella pull up at our local bakery in a Cayenne. There was a hell of a racket coming from the bonnet. Could it be. Yep! A bloody diesel. So not only was it was fugly. It was slow as well. If one is prone to buying a fugly auto. At least make sure it's fast so you can save a little of your honor.
 
pvr said:
What was that Porker up for you looked at?

£60k pvr - done 3.5k, 2007 Gen 1 GT3. It's the clubsport spec (at least I think thats what they call it) so its got roll-cage in the rear and harnesses and that carbon fibre spoiler. They had another Gen 1 GT3 in with 14k miles in "comfort spec" so no roll cage (still no rear seats but room for storage) and normal belts. That was £62k.

I reckon 997 GT3's will start to go up in value before long. The 991 will have PDK only and electro-mechanical power steering. So the 997's will be the last "true" GT3.
 
original guvnor said:
pvr said:
What was that Porker up for you looked at?

£60k pvr - done 3.5k, 2007 Gen 1 GT3. It's the clubsport spec (at least I think thats what they call it) so its got roll-cage in the rear and harnesses and that carbon fibre spoiler. They had another Gen 1 GT3 in with 14k miles in "comfort spec" so no roll cage (still no rear seats but room for storage) and normal belts. That was £62k.

I reckon 997 GT3's will start to go up in value before long. The 991 will have PDK only and electro-mechanical power steering. So the 997's will be the last "true" GT3.

would the 997 turbo not tempt you . possibly the best all round 911 ever & certainly capable of everything you could ask of it ?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201230479973428/sort/default/usedcars/price-from/40000/model/911_turbo/make/porsche/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/quicksearch/true/radius/1501/page/2/postcode/bb120hr?logcode=p
 
mr wilks said:
original guvnor said:
pvr said:
What was that Porker up for you looked at?

£60k pvr - done 3.5k, 2007 Gen 1 GT3. It's the clubsport spec (at least I think thats what they call it) so its got roll-cage in the rear and harnesses and that carbon fibre spoiler. They had another Gen 1 GT3 in with 14k miles in "comfort spec" so no roll cage (still no rear seats but room for storage) and normal belts. That was £62k.

I reckon 997 GT3's will start to go up in value before long. The 991 will have PDK only and electro-mechanical power steering. So the 997's will be the last "true" GT3.

would the 997 turbo not tempt you . possibly the best all round 911 ever & certainly capable of everything you could ask of it ?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201230479973428/sort/default/usedcars/price-from/40000/model/911_turbo/make/porsche/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/quicksearch/true/radius/1501/page/2/postcode/bb120hr?logcode=p

Not really tbh. I don't really want a turbo-engined car (although if things carry on as they are I may have very little choice in the future) and I see a GT3 as a natural successor to the Z4MC - high-revving motorsport derived NA engine, a bit more hardcore, rare, limited numbers, and the added attraction of very low depreciation.
 
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