Oh give me a fkg break Lewis!
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I too wish that sport could remain separate from politics and be nothing other than entertainment. Unfortunately, in the modern era we have the "celebrity culture", where any high profile actor, musician, sportsperson etc. is expected to put forward a politically correct "woke" opinion. As I see it, Lewis, as the only black driver in F1, has been presented with the Black Lives Matter agenda platform, and is expected to take it up as such a well known black person. I wonder what the media reaction would be if he said he didn't want to get involved in politics?
Who is driving the BLM agenda in football, when all the players have to stand in silence at the start of matches? It can't be Lewis Hamilton.
Who is driving the BLM agenda in football, when all the players have to stand in silence at the start of matches? It can't be Lewis Hamilton.
exdos said:
Sod the media, who bows and scrapes to their tune in their right mind..? It’s entirely his decision wether to take the BLM movement on or leave it alone, and if he does want to take it up why can’t he do it away from F1..? The whole thing as well as the PC agenda, politics etc, is completely out of hand and has no place in sport or recreation, tbh honest I’m sick to bloody death of having it rammed down my throat in recreation, there’s enough coverage in the correct channels, Agreed it’s not just Hamilton banging the drum but he doesn’t have to, not in his job anyway, he could quite easily say he’s not talking about it at races, but saving it for an appropriate stage. Tbh I kinda get it in football, not BLM but awareness of racism, as it’s always been there and still is in footy, it seems to be one of the only sports that it blatantly happens, but you don’t hear Hamilton being called a nigger or some other vile name at F1 races from the stands, doesn’t happen thank goodness.
As alway just imo, def not saying I’m right or wrong.
His focus is on ‘racial diversity’ and ‘inclusion’, not necessarily racism, while also advocating the BLM ‘movement’. They’re two distinct phenomena. Basically, he’s whining about why there aren’t more black people in F1?Nictrix said:
I’ve experienced the ugliness and mindless violence of racism first hand. As a white kid in the 70’s who hung around with the only Indian kid in the town we both used to get chased down and beaten up. Him for being brown and me for hanging out with a brown kid.
I’m not a racist. I’m all for racial diversity and inclusion. But not just for the sake of it. Not filling out quotas and adhering to leftist mis-guided policies. If you’re good at your sport, reach the top and you happen to be black then great. But to suggest that someone else might be entitled to have a shot at the same position partly or wholly based on their ethnic background and not their individual sporting merits is just fubar!
exdos said:
I’d actually like someone to explain to me in plain English exactly what this ‘BLM agenda’ is, because as far as I can ascertain it’s just a lot of people making a lot of noise about actual or perceived in-justices involving black people.
1. I can’t identify who the leader/leadership or main representative is. It seems to be a collective movement of individuals located on social media platforms who all identify with and have their own interpretation of what BLM actually stands for.
2. I can’t find any manifesto, policies, plan, planning or change-objectives defined anywhere. It seems to be a totally reactionary movement where ‘non-violent civil disobedience’ is advocated on occasion and where, when and however it is deemed necessary.
3. I can’t find any coordinated, managed organisational structure whatsoever apart from the fragmented, free-for-all discussions taking place on social media
4. I can’t find any coherent or clear dialogue being reported or recorded between ‘BLM’ and any governmental or NGO body on any social or mainstream media platform. So if this is a movement that seeks change and an addressing of racial imbalance then where’s the start point located?
As far as I can tell it’s basically a meaningless, meandering, reactionary, non-specific, slogan-driven excuse for making a lot of noise and not much else!
Ask anyone who purports to support BLM ‘Just exactly what the fk is it that you are supporting??’
Lynchy said:
My growing dislike of Lewis has nothing to do with his recent political comments, sadly he's gone from an incredible home-grown talent and become an increasingly weird narcissistic tit. Latest quote from Lewis this evening: "I am living proof that you can manufacture dreams".
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I think the problem that black people have with white people, lies with this comment. The presumption is that the people who do not like Lewis Hamilton's behaviour are white and that everyone who made a negative comment in this post is white. That may well be the case and if it is then a lot of people are way behind London people with their acceptance of 'Diversity and Inclusion'. I hate the so called 'taking the knee' (genuflect, Catholics call it) kneeling to the 'host'. I dislike BLM campaigns and Lewis Hamilton's self created role as a leader for black people on a Formula 1 forum. I also disliked SKY TVs broadcast in the early days of 'taking the knee' where they named all the drivers who did not take the knee (to name and shame them) but only stood wearing the BLM 'T shirts'. Appalling. There is a long way to go here (black and white) and sometimes it is five steps back because of propaganda and current thinking. Shame really.Lynchy said:
BeeEmm said:
I doubt anyone will believe me but his skin colour has absolutely nothing to do with my comments on him, nothing. I want an equal society, nothing more. Some black people are crapbags, some white people are crapbags. Same goes for any other skin colour, makes no difference.
My issue is with his ramming his ill thought out views and hypocrisy on a sport, and his attempt to shame others that don’t follow his ideology. If it was Verstappen doing the same I’d say the same things. Easy to say but I can’t make anyone believe me.
Well said Chris. Lewis is startng to do my head in. He should either leave the sport and become a politician or carry on driving and shut the fook up 
Lynchy said:
I think he's more than aware of stereotype in motoracing and professional sport so the fact that he's able to stay at the top of driving, push his political agendas as well as ignore the haters while wearing skirts or whatever he may deem appropriate is a testament to his character.
Let's not let the loudest or most ignorant have the last word.
I have come to believe that no one wants an equal society. They say they do, but have views that don't allow it. People with disabilities say they want equality, but admit to wanting more than equality to be equal. For the past 10 years Women have forced themselves to the fore and we now live in a society governed by what Women want. TV news programmes are hosted by Women, with Women Interviewers interviewing Women on what Women want. We now have to say the 'Men and Women who sacrificed their lives in World War 1' when it was 99.99% men and no Women on the front lines. Women have been voted into parliament, because they are Women first and foremost, similar with some BAME people. Parliament is ruled and decisions are made not by party politics so much, but by what is best for each represented group, be it , Women, BAME, poorer people or those that are lazy and don't give a s**t (disadvantaged poor people). I do appreciate that there are some genuinely poor people.john-e89 said:
Boris Johnson is struggling to suggest to the Queen that Lewis Hamilton deserves a knighthood, because of his lack of tax contributions. I feel sure that he will get round that problem.
Somewhere in that rant is the reason that we are a poorer represented group of people than we once were.
BeeEmm said:I have come to believe that no one wants an equal society. They say they do, but have views that don't allow it. People with disabilities say they want equality, but admit to wanting more than equality to be equal. For the past 10 years Women have forced themselves to the fore and we now live in a society governed by what Women want. TV news programmes are hosted by Women, with Women Interviewers interviewing Women on what Women want. We now have to say the 'Men and Women who sacrificed their lives in World War 1' when it was 99.99% men and no Women on the front lines. Women have been voted into parliament, because they are Women first and foremost, similar with some BAME people. Parliament is ruled and decisions are made not by party politics so much, but by what is best for each represented group, be it , Women, BAME, poorer people or those that are lazy and don't give a s**t (disadvantaged poor people). I do appreciate that there are some genuinely poor people.john-e89 said:
Boris Johnson is struggling to suggest to the Queen that Lewis Hamilton deserves a knighthood, because of his lack of tax contributions. I feel sure that he will get round that problem.
Somewhere in that rant is the reason that we are a poorer represented group of people than we once were.
Do you have any facts to back of any of the above just out of interest? Or would you just like us to believe it because you believe it to be true?