Now a roof problem for me

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Pooltee

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Hi all

I seem to have developed a roof problem of my own now.

I went to drop the roof this morning ready to give the car a good clean inside. When I pressed the button, the windows dropped, the rear window came up over the roof and then I got the red warning light come up on the screen. And nothing else happened. The sequence stopped at the point the boot lid usually opens, but this time it didn’t open.

No response from buttons for windows or roof now and roof is stuck open half way.

Any help or suggestions would be very greatly appreciated.
 
Pooltee said:
Hi all

I seem to have developed a roof problem of my own now.

I went to drop the roof this morning ready to give the car a good clean inside. When I pressed the button, the windows dropped, the rear window came up over the roof and then I got the red warning light come up on the screen. And nothing else happened. The sequence stopped at the point the boot lid usually opens, but this time it didn’t open.

No response from buttons for windows or roof now and roof is stuck open half way.

Any help or suggestions would be very greatly appreciated.
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Well battery is the no 1 issue I assume the engine wasn’t running?

Suggest you repeat the exercise with the engine running and advise?
 
Pbondar said:
Pooltee said:
Hi all

I seem to have developed a roof problem of my own now.

I went to drop the roof this morning ready to give the car a good clean inside. When I pressed the button, the windows dropped, the rear window came up over the roof and then I got the red warning light come up on the screen. And nothing else happened. The sequence stopped at the point the boot lid usually opens, but this time it didn’t open.

No response from buttons for windows or roof now and roof is stuck open half way.

Any help or suggestions would be very greatly appreciated.
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Well battery is the no 1 issue I assume the engine wasn’t running?

Suggest you repeat the exercise with the engine running and advise?
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Sorry I missed that bit out. I did try with the engine running and the same issue occurs. Battery has been on charge and seems to be doing fine. I would say battery life is quite health as the stop start system started working for the first time yesterday since I brought the car :?
 
Well good news is the battery charge seems good

Have you tried to switch everything off then re cycle ?

Do you have a fault code reader? Fault code readout is normally the next step
 
Pbondar said:
Well good news is the battery charge seems good

Have you tried to switch everything off then re cycle ?

Do you have a fault code reader? Fault code readout is normally the next step
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Unfortunately I lend me code reader to a friend who is now self isolating :headbang:
 
Pooltee said:
Pbondar said:
Well good news is the battery charge seems good

Have you tried to switch everything off then re cycle ?

Do you have a fault code reader? Fault code readout is normally the next step
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Unfortunately I lend me code reader to a friend who is now self isolating :headbang:
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The other ones that have caught me out were..

Luggage isolation net not properly in place / dislodged due to not being latched

Car on a slope...it did exactly what happened to yours...

I was 250 miles and 8 hours from home on what became one of the rainiest days in 2019 in Scotland..

I left it..tried to then close it..which it did then didn’t touch it till date I got home...been faultless ever since..
 
mcbutler said:
tintoverano said:
Pooltee said:
Unfortunately I lend me code reader to a friend who is now self isolating :headbang:
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ask him to throw it out on the window or else
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A true Zed fan would risk Covid to retrieve it, the forum is watching........... :thumbsup:
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Oh I shall do don’t you worry, trouble is it’s a 200 mile round trip to his house to get it 🤣
 
Are the micro switches a reasonably easy diy job? I have had a look over the roof system today and it’s just a maze of wiring and hoses as you are all aware.

I thought the issue was with the boot, as that is where the system seems to be having a problem. But I can open and close the boot via the fob and the badge no problem at all, and the soft close draws the boot down as normal.

Trying the system a few time’s today I have noticed that although the roof stops at the same part of the sequence, it does vary how far the rear screen extends over the roof each time.

Only way to get the roof to close again is to switch off the ignition, wait for what I assume is hydraulic pressure to drop, and the rear window gently lowers down under its own weight. Once this has happened I can then turn the ignition on and press the roof close button, and the rear screen locks down into place, the windows go up, and all warnings then go away until the next time the open roof button is pressed.

When I purchased the car, they informed me that the roof was inoperative and would be repaired prior to hand over. This was done, and was sent away to a specialist to be carried out. The selling garage were rather upset at the £800 repair bill, so I am guessing that it must of had something significant replaced to warrant a trade bill such as that.

The garage is currently closed due to lockdown, with no confirmed date on when they will be reopening, Otherwise I would get them to take it back to the garage that did the initial repair.
 
Pooltee said:
Are the micro switches a reasonably easy diy job? I have had a look over the roof system today and it’s just a maze of wiring and hoses as you are all aware.

I thought the issue was with the boot, as that is where the system seems to be having a problem. But I can open and close the boot via the fob and the badge no problem at all, and the soft close draws the boot down as normal.

Trying the system a few time’s today I have noticed that although the roof stops at the same part of the sequence, it does vary how far the rear screen extends over the roof each time.

Only way to get the roof to close again is to switch off the ignition, wait for what I assume is hydraulic pressure to drop, and the rear window gently lowers down under its own weight. Once this has happened I can then turn the ignition on and press the roof close button, and the rear screen locks down into place, the windows go up, and all warnings then go away until the next time the open roof button is pressed.

When I purchased the car, they informed me that the roof was inoperative and would be repaired prior to hand over. This was done, and was sent away to a specialist to be carried out. The selling garage were rather upset at the £800 repair bill, so I am guessing that it must of had something significant replaced to warrant a trade bill such as that.

The garage is currently closed due to lockdown, with no confirmed date on when they will be reopening, Otherwise I would get them to take it back to the garage that did the initial repair.
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Have you tried emailing them requesting the info?
Rob
 
Smartbear said:
Pooltee said:
Are the micro switches a reasonably easy diy job? I have had a look over the roof system today and it’s just a maze of wiring and hoses as you are all aware.

I thought the issue was with the boot, as that is where the system seems to be having a problem. But I can open and close the boot via the fob and the badge no problem at all, and the soft close draws the boot down as normal.

Trying the system a few time’s today I have noticed that although the roof stops at the same part of the sequence, it does vary how far the rear screen extends over the roof each time.

Only way to get the roof to close again is to switch off the ignition, wait for what I assume is hydraulic pressure to drop, and the rear window gently lowers down under its own weight. Once this has happened I can then turn the ignition on and press the roof close button, and the rear screen locks down into place, the windows go up, and all warnings then go away until the next time the open roof button is pressed.

When I purchased the car, they informed me that the roof was inoperative and would be repaired prior to hand over. This was done, and was sent away to a specialist to be carried out. The selling garage were rather upset at the £800 repair bill, so I am guessing that it must of had something significant replaced to warrant a trade bill such as that.

The garage is currently closed due to lockdown, with no confirmed date on when they will be reopening, Otherwise I would get them to take it back to the garage that did the initial repair.
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Have you tried emailing them requesting the info?
Rob
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I have indeed, and I haven’t had a reply as yet. I am guessing the emails are probably not monitored over the weekend. Fingers crossed I will get a reply in the week. Would be good to know what was actually done.
 
A friend of mine was having similar symptoms with his roof last week - 2 days before his warranty ran out.
He tried my code reader, no codes evident.
Battery voltage wasn't great but he hadn't used the car for a number of weeks (He'd had the dreaded CV)
He couldn't get into the boot to check the battery age but charged it up anyway via the contact points under the bonnet
Still no joy

After contacting the warranty company he took it to the nominated local indie.
Their response (after connecting to their upmarket software) was that the 'roof had got out of sync' and the sensors were having a 'hissy fit'

They reset it all and said it was now working fine and should also be cycling quicker than it was.

The bad news was that it wasn't covered by the warranty, but as the bill was only £100 he wasn't particularly bothered

Ironically mine got stuck at the boot open stage at about the same time.
A bit like in Pbondar's case, repeated button presses got it closed and it's worked perfectly since
I've been trying it daily and my confidence is slowly returning :thumbsup:
 
obewan said:
A friend of mine was having similar symptoms with his roof last week - 2 days before his warranty ran out.
He tried my code reader, no codes evident.
Battery voltage wasn't great but he hadn't used the car for a number of weeks (He'd had the dreaded CV)
He couldn't get into the boot to check the battery age but charged it up anyway via the contact points under the bonnet
Still no joy

After contacting the warranty company he took it to the nominated local indie.
Their response (after connecting to their upmarket software) was that the 'roof had got out of sync' and the sensors were having a 'hissy fit'

They reset it all and said it was now working fine and should also be cycling quicker than it was.

The bad news was that it wasn't covered by the warranty, but as the bill was only £100 he wasn't particularly bothered

Ironically mine got stuck at the boot open stage at about the same time.
A bit like in Pbondar's case, repeated button presses got it closed and it's worked perfectly since
I've been trying it daily and my confidence is slowly returning :thumbsup:
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How old are your salmon relays? :?
Rob
 
My cars salmon relay failure was that, rear panel over the top and then all stop. Pause and after driving a few feet forward, it would close.
I think we all concluded that relays are a consumable that need replacing every 5 years.
Wish i had known this sooner could have saved cash on a Foxwell reader. Might come in handy in the future though.
Hope it's like my space saver, bought and never used in 5 years.
 
flybobbie said:
My cars salmon relay failure was that, rear panel over the top and then all stop. Pause and after driving a few feet forward, it would close.
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Maybe the vibration from driving made a high resistance contact improve enough to do its job? :?
Rob
 
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