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Car magazine have new pictures and a review of the new z4 this month- still not sold on it yet ! sadly for the us guys the online site doesnt have the pics- only the ones we have already seen.
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i started a thread on this a while ago as it really annoyeed me too!
I think keeping the Z4 designation is the right thing to do. IMHO when they went from the Z3 to the Z4 they moved the car up a notch in size, price, market, etc.
This time it's a development within the same sector so should carry the Z4 badge.
It follows the same convention as the X5 where the new is called the X5 too, but its smaller brother became the X3. Incedentally I run and X5 too and don't feel the need to preface all conversations with 'the old model'
This time it's a development within the same sector so should carry the Z4 badge.
It follows the same convention as the X5 where the new is called the X5 too, but its smaller brother became the X3. Incedentally I run and X5 too and don't feel the need to preface all conversations with 'the old model'
yea- read the same artice- shame but the 300 odd bhp 3.0 turbo sounds fun! What you think of the pics?
So there are full pictures in CAR? I thought the car wasn't due to be revealed until the 15th.
The new S4 has a 6 pot again whereas the old one had a V8, a trend may be forming for emissions and economy reasons - it seems you can get as much power out of a Turbo / SC V6 with lower CO2, higher MPG and no major downsides. If the M division agree the tech has improved enough it could go the same way, but I will believe it when I see it! I'd be all over a V8 powered Z4M, and its logical to use it -
1) Its a new engine with the development work done, so cost base lower
2) Both previous ZMs have used the M3 engine of the time
3) V8s make me happy on the inside
The new S4 has a 6 pot again whereas the old one had a V8, a trend may be forming for emissions and economy reasons - it seems you can get as much power out of a Turbo / SC V6 with lower CO2, higher MPG and no major downsides. If the M division agree the tech has improved enough it could go the same way, but I will believe it when I see it! I'd be all over a V8 powered Z4M, and its logical to use it -
1) Its a new engine with the development work done, so cost base lower
2) Both previous ZMs have used the M3 engine of the time
3) V8s make me happy on the inside
Tommo said:Because they could have called it the Z2,5,6,7 or 9
Afterall, it not as if they are ever going to make that many roadsters that they would run out of number so I can't see why they did this.
They have no choice with the 3 series.
That's not a very brilliant argument. The Z4 was a new model compared to the Z3 whilst the new Z4 is an evolution of the previous gen Z4 hance they keep the model name. That is the same logic they apply to the 3 Series, not because they have no choice. :roll:
pmeloche said:Tommo said:Because they could have called it the Z2,5,6,7 or 9
Afterall, it not as if they are ever going to make that many roadsters that they would run out of number so I can't see why they did this.
They have no choice with the 3 series.
That's not a very brilliant argument. The Z4 was a new model compared to the Z3 whilst the new Z4 is an evolution of the previous gen Z4 hance they keep the model name. That is the same logic they apply to the 3 Series, not because they have no choice. :roll:
Not sure I agree! The Z4 was a straightforward replacement for the Z3 - it's a 2 seater roadster (with coupe offshoot) using the 3-series engine line up and using 3 series chassis components! Yes is slightly bigger, but almost all new cars are bigger than those that they replace. The naming was as part of a complete naming standards re-alingment within BMW.
The new Z4 will also have a change in naming too - it will adopt the X-series naming, whereby we'll see an 's-drive' term instead of straight Z4 3.0 (the reason being was that people who didn't know better started talking about Z430's and Z422's!