New UK Road Tax cost for M40i

I find it incredible that the government continues to charge VED by the month not by the day, yet I can tax my car within a few minutes on line. If you purchase a car at the end of the month, you have to pay VED for the entirety of that month; if you sell on the first of the month, that entire month is withheld from the refunded tax.
I’m sufficiently offended that I always try to ensure that my trips to the UK (and so taxing my RS4 at Ā£760 pa) fall within a single calendar month, rather than straddling two months.
 
The interesting part is that this just make people keep older car running for longer. I have a 3.0 E85 with a supercharger for a bit more fun. Something breaks I fix it, the M54 engine is known to last a lifetime, parts are plenty. The new manual looks interesting but its a silly cost the VED just help with the decision. No point upgrading as it stands.
 
BMWZ4MC said:
I find it incredible that the government continues to charge VED by the month not by the day, yet I can tax my car within a few minutes on line. If you purchase a car at the end of the month, you have to pay VED for the entirety of that month; if you sell on the first of the month, that entire month is withheld from the refunded tax.
I’m sufficiently offended that I always try to ensure that my trips to the UK (and so taxing my RS4 at Ā£760 pa) fall within a single calendar month, rather than straddling two months.
Again, it's a scam that's in the governments favour.
Just put the cost on fuel, you pay for when you use the road.
With the heavy milk float's, just tax them by the annual mileage.
 
LRC said:
The interesting part is that this just make people keep older car running for longer. I have a 3.0 E85 with a supercharger for a bit more fun. Something breaks I fix it, the M54 engine is known to last a lifetime, parts are plenty. The new manual looks interesting but its a silly cost the VED just help with the decision. No point upgrading as it stands.

Personally also feel like this & support the view purely from a petrol head point of view. But, I suppose, it is also the most sustainable thing one can actually do!
 
Boyo said:
Nanu said:
A year old ex demo is the way to go avoiding that initial hit and the VAT. Would never buy a new car again.
So a car that has been thrashed by god knows how many drivers šŸ‘Ž
Had 4 out of my last 5 not being new. Never had a single issue with any and saved a fortune.
 
Nanu said:
Boyo said:
Nanu said:
A year old ex demo is the way to go avoiding that initial hit and the VAT. Would never buy a new car again.
So a car that has been thrashed by god knows how many drivers šŸ‘Ž
Had 4 out of my last 5 not being new. Never had a single issue with any and saved a fortune.
But were they ex demonstrators?
 
F1SpaceMonkey said:
Anyone know what this is for the M40i.......assume its in the region of £2190 for a new car registered after April 2025. And for a car registered before 2025.......i believe its £620.

Yes £2190 I missed the cut off by a matter of days!
 
BMWZ4MC said:
I find it incredible that the government continues to charge VED by the month not by the day, yet I can tax my car within a few minutes on line. If you purchase a car at the end of the month, you have to pay VED for the entirety of that month; if you sell on the first of the month, that entire month is withheld from the refunded tax.
I’m sufficiently offended that I always try to ensure that my trips to the UK (and so taxing my RS4 at Ā£760 pa) fall within a single calendar month, rather than straddling two months.
It's called rip-off Britain for a reason!
 
Boyo said:
Nanu said:
Boyo said:
So a car that has been thrashed by god knows how many drivers šŸ‘Ž
Had 4 out of my last 5 not being new. Never had a single issue with any and saved a fortune.
But were they ex demonstrators?
Yes, garage the first owner, a couple of months old and each with less than a few hundred miles on the clock. My current treasure is the oldest one I have bought as they are few and far between. Saw it so grabbed it. ( partly before the wife changed her mind saying I could have it)
 
Nanu said:
Boyo wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 8:44 am
Nanu wrote: Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:54 pm
Boyo wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 9:18 am
So a car that has been thrashed by god knows how many drivers
Had 4 out of my last 5 not being new. Never had a single issue with any and saved a fortune.
But were they ex demonstrators?
Yes, garage the first owner, a couple of months old and each with less than a few hundred miles on the clock. My current treasure is the oldest one I have bought as they are few and far between. Saw it so grabbed it. ( partly before the wife changed her mind saying I could have it)

TBF my first 2 BMWs were like that.

First one was registered in April 2004 to BMW UK and I picked it up in January 2005 with less than 2K miles on it, next one was registered September 2007 to Cooper Croydon and that had less than 20 miles recorded when I collected it in January 2008. I saved thousands on both of them with no problems. :D

But since then I've still been buying cars from that era as I wound down to part-time working then retirement!

With the current painful first year tax cost maybe it makes even more sense now?
 
Mr Tidy said:
But since then I've still been buying cars from that era as I wound down to part-time working then retirement!

You forget that Nanu was a civil servant, though, Iain, so has a MUCH better pension than you (or me, or most). :D
 
I was looking at a newer M40 in December and started looking at the road tax rates. I ended up buying an older car with just 15k on the clock, there are plently around. Its a first edition but frankly you cant tell the difference. It was also 20k cheaper than the original car I was looking at. Saved a fortune for the same experience.šŸ˜‰
 
ibroker said:
I was looking at a newer M40 in December and started looking at the road tax rates. I ended up buying an older car (2019) Ā£195 ved) with just 15k on the clock, there are plently around. Its a first edition but frankly you cant tell the difference. It was also 20k cheaper than the original car I was looking at. Saved a fortune for the same experience.šŸ˜‰
 
Pondrew said:
Mr Tidy said:
But since then I've still been buying cars from that era as I wound down to part-time working then retirement!

You forget that Nanu was a civil servant, though, Iain, so has a MUCH better pension than you (or me, or most). :D
Twice over thank you. 30 year Police pension and a 14 year Civil servants pension with the Gambling Commission. I did have a 2 year NHS pension but they offered to buy that one off me and it went towards my current pride and joy 8)Replaced now by a state pension though :D

If it makes you feel any better I do have an expensive to run wife :(
 
ibroker said:
I was looking at a newer M40 in December and started looking at the road tax rates. I ended up buying an older car with just 15k on the clock, there are plently around. Its a first edition but frankly you cant tell the difference. It was also 20k cheaper than the original car I was looking at. Saved a fortune for the same experience.šŸ˜‰
Older cars are cheaper than new ones? Who knew? :?

Just realised what the word 'depreciation' means. Thanks. :thumbsup:
 
Pondrew said:
ibroker said:
I was looking at a newer M40 in December and started looking at the road tax rates. I ended up buying an older car with just 15k on the clock, there are plently around. Its a first edition but frankly you cant tell the difference. It was also 20k cheaper than the original car I was looking at. Saved a fortune for the same experience.šŸ˜‰
Older cars are cheaper than new ones? Who knew? :?

Just realised what the word 'depreciation' means. Thanks. :thumbsup:

So your sarcasm is stronger than your financial prowess clearly.

So just for your individual education. The point was that bearing in mind the G29 remains pretty much unchanged from the first edition there was little point in paying more for a newer car. F### all to do with depreciation, and yet achieving the same result. And referring to the original post also saving on the extortionate VED rate.

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Some can't afford a new one, for some there are other reasons. For me it was and always has been a straight forward choice, a new but lesser spec model or a used and higher spec.

I always chose the latter
 
ibroker said:
So your sarcasm is stronger than your financial prowess clearly.
I have always been talented (or cursed) with sarcasm and always been skint. So yes, you are correct. :thumbsup:

But then stating the 'bleeding obvious' does seem a little futile IMO. :D
 
Pondrew said:
ibroker said:
So your sarcasm is stronger than your financial prowess clearly.
I have always been talented (or cursed) with sarcasm and always been skint. So yes, you are correct. :thumbsup:

But then stating the 'bleeding obvious' does seem a little futile IMO. :D
They say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
 
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