Mr Tidy said:It gets worse!
Between 2011 and 2015 four-cylinder 1 Series used the Prince engine developed jointly by BMW and Peugeot-Citroen.
Pondrew said:Great. I presume you did get that I was being facetious?axelleveau said:Well, the Jaguars and Land Rovers are actually pretty much entirely engineered in the UK without any carry-over parts from Tata Motors, including the engines (excepted the new V8s which are a BMW joint developement)![]()
Tata still get the profits which I presume will be helping Indian people to set up more call centres for us to enjoy![]()
pvr said:This is Pondrew we are talking about, so there will be another 50 changes 8)

:lol:pvr said:This is Pondrew we are talking about, so there will be another 50 changes
Whilst I don't disagree with anything you've said, the reason that I like the Golf is that it does everything well, it may not be the most dynamic, fastest, comfiest or quietest car and indeed a 308 will beat it in some areas, however it's the sum of all the individual parts, the overall package that is unbeatable in that sector.Ole gits rule said:pvr said:My recent experiences are all rentals, generally PSA or Ford and they have all been dismal to drive. It is very rare I get something from VAG or even Skoda, but if I do then I must say the whole experience is so much better.
I suppose you could say the same about the Alpina though, just another frock but it is more than just that.
Thing is are you getting the low end as rentals and yes I would agree a standard golf is better than a standard 308, 208 V Polo then I may go Polo for quality but it is so bland IMHO.
If it is a hot hatch then the 308 will certainly push the Golf but it is far rarer than the VW product.
It is horses for courses and occasionally I see a Golf GTi and think I could live with one of those but 9 times our of 10 I think its boring and common.
Pondrew said:After getting a 'buy it' price for the Octavia which was full retail, have been looking at all sorts. Came up with this, it only has three doors but has a very mappable 2L petrol engine. I give you the Golf coupe:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112070304616?radius=1500&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&sort=price-asc&postcode=pe111xn&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.0&maximum-mileage=30000&make=Volkswagen&advertising-location=at_cars&i

Oh believe me, this is not a done deal yet. Five doors would be useful as it will be the main family car, but it is not essential (there are only three of us and the dog who hates cars anyways)sars said:Result thought you wanted a five door
Pondrew said:Oh believe me, this is not a done deal yet. Five doors would be useful as it will be the main family car, but it is not essential (there are only three of us and the dog who hates cars anyways)sars said:Result thought you wanted a five door![]()
No, she's too youngScubaregs said:Can't you buy the dog a twist n go scooter then?
Boyo said:As doors have been reduced to three, then why not go for a motor bike with side car.
You need to factor in the rider and pillion accessScubaregs said:Boyo said:As doors have been reduced to three, then why not go for a motor bike with side car.
Curious, just how many doors do you think a sidecar has? :?
If you knew my 15 year old daughter, or my wife, you would realise why that made me laugh out loud :lol:Boyo said:As doors have been reduced to three, then why not go for a motor bike with side car.