N52 3L mpg

ronk said:
Mr Tidy said:
Yes, those 140 mph winds are not economical!

It gets worse if you have a 3 litre - they can turn into 155 mph winds (restricted only by the limiter)!


Mine is 3.0 but the limiting factor is Mrs K in the passengers seat - I find it impossible to concentrate or enjoy a blast with that screeching and feet stamping - yes feet stamping, going on!

To be fair she doesn't start playing up so much and so early when the roof is on!


hahah :D

I have yet to drive in Germany. Very much looking forward to it!

I might install an ejector seat just in case there are issues within the cockpit haha
 
Theog said:
I have yet to drive in Germany. Very much looking forward to it!

I might install an ejector seat just in case there are issues within the cockpit haha

I like driving in Germany - do remember that it's not a free for all race track and that oniy some sections of Autobahn are derestricted - even if you think you are travelling quickly, there is nearly always somebody much faster. Ie last year at 120ish I pulled into the near side to allow a Porsche 4wd waft by at 140 +
I have found that a steady 100/110mph is a nice speed for a long journey in Germany. It's a good balance of ground covered in a more relaxed manner while still feeling the car is being driven as intended!

Maybe I'm just getting old?
 
ronk said:
Theog said:
I have yet to drive in Germany. Very much looking forward to it!

I might install an ejector seat just in case there are issues within the cockpit haha

I like driving in Germany - do remember that it's not a free for all race track and that oniy some sections of Autobahn are derestricted - even if you think you are travelling quickly, there is nearly always somebody much faster. Ie last year at 120ish I pulled into the near side to allow a Porsche 4wd waft by at 140 +
I have found that a steady 100/110mph is a nice speed for a long journey in Germany. It's a good balance of ground covered in a more relaxed manner while still feeling the car is being driven as intended!

Maybe I'm just getting old?

hmm interesting. I suppose it depends on the car too. 100mph in my wifes car would feel like lightspeed. My dad bought one of those maserati ghibili's last week. It feels fast, but at the same time it's so calm that you could probably do any speed and feel relaxed given the power and braking speed.

I remember speaking to a German guy about cars. He said he finds it hilarious that so many people buy all these fast cars and yet cant drive them fast at all. He said that a lot of German cars were designed to go very very fast whilst still being able to call someone within your car. Essentially aimed at excs travelling across the quite geographically large country whilst still needing to do business etc.... when you think of it like that, it makes you realise why they have produced what they have e.g. controlled, not too crazy but powerful cars that woft you along with not too much drama. I think M / AMG etc are an exception due to the sporting nature. But I think that helps sum up quite a lot about German cars... also explains why they are so reliable as the 'standard' is very fast driving with high mileage, so i suppose if it can withstand that, then anything else is probably pretty easy to achieve.... just food for thought anyway!
 
Just added two Fuel Apps to the phone and worked the MPG out in a spreadsheet based on the last two visits to the petrol station.

Apps say I'm I'm getting 29.37 and 29.40 mpg.

Spreadsheet says 29.36 mpg.

Car says around 25 mpg.
 
ronk said:
Mr Tidy said:
Yes, those 140 mph winds are not economical!

It gets worse if you have a 3 litre - they can turn into 155 mph winds (restricted only by the limiter)!


Mine is 3.0 but the limiting factor is Mrs K in the passengers seat - I find it impossible to concentrate or enjoy a blast with that screeching and feet stamping - yes feet stamping, going on!

To be fair she doesn't start playing up so much and so early when the roof is on!

:lol: It's like one of those mathematical formulae!

If V-max is the objective either leave Mrs ronk behind or buy a Coupe! :D
 
skelters said:
Just added two Fuel Apps to the phone and worked the MPG out in a spreadsheet based on the last two visits to the petrol station.

Apps say I'm I'm getting 29.37 and 29.40 mpg.

Spreadsheet says 29.36 mpg.

Car says around 25 mpg.

I suppose that's better than worse.

I have no idea how the mpg on-board calculator works, but the start up time must mess with it whilst engine is adjusting. Also i have no idea how aircon and general electrical use effects it? Is it simply based on fuel going from tank to engine and amusing its all burnt?

Perhaps age effects each sensor too?
 
Mr Tidy said:
If V-max is the objective either leave Mrs ronk behind or buy a Coupe! :D

The irony is - her "shopping" car has shed loads more power and torque than my "sports" car.
 
skelters said:
Smartbear said:
Have you been resetting the obc regularly to get more accurate recent consumption?
Rob

Yes. It's reset every time I fill it with petrol.
I think you have to reset it every time you do a journey to get a more realistic average. If you do a number of short journeys from cold in town it will bring your average right down and then doing a longer journey you will start from a very low average.
 
Zeld4 said:
I think you have to reset it every time you do a journey to get a more realistic average. If you do a number of short journeys from cold in town it will bring your average right down and then doing a longer journey you will start from a very low average.

If you are trying to derermine an average fuel consumption for the car then leave it alone, take the figure over the longest period and type of journeys undertaken - surely that's what an average is ? Otherwise it's only an average / fill up.

My average 32.4mpg has been over the last 2000 (ish) miles and has been derived from all sorts of trips .
 
ronk said:
Zeld4 said:
I think you have to reset it every time you do a journey to get a more realistic average. If you do a number of short journeys from cold in town it will bring your average right down and then doing a longer journey you will start from a very low average.

If you are trying to derermine an average fuel consumption for the car then leave it alone, take the figure over the longest period and type of journeys undertaken - surely that's what an average is ? Otherwise it's only an average / fill up.

My average 32.4mpg has been over the last 2000 (ish) miles and has been derived from all sorts of trips .
In the hand book it states "The average fuel consumption is calculated for the period since the engine was last started".
If you reset the trip computer and did a long slow run for say 100 miles then ragged it for 5 miles you would get a different average then of you did the same 100 miles, stopped the car, turned it back on and ragged it for 5 miles. The average on the trip computer would come right down. So resetting every time you start then working out the average based on that is more accurate.
 
My avg mpg display stays resident in the display and I treat it as an average of fuel used?

I don't see how the average of 100m @ 40 mpg + 5m @ 20 mpg can be altered.

On a 1500 mile holiday I kept a spread sheet on the iPad of miles done and fuel used and the average display was quite accurate - I did all sorts of journeys.

It was so good I just stopped recording the data!
 
What the handbook really means is it only starts adding to the average when the engine is on. The only thing that would make the average different in the scenario above is if you stopped and let it cool down as of course it uses more during warmup.
 
Steve84N said:
What the handbook really means is it only starts adding to the average when the engine is on. The only thing that would make the average different in the scenario above is if you stopped and let it cool down as of course it uses more during warmup.

Hence my statement that the average over the longest and thus most varied, is the best indication of a true average fuel consumption !
 
ronk said:
Steve84N said:
What the handbook really means is it only starts adding to the average when the engine is on. The only thing that would make the average different in the scenario above is if you stopped and let it cool down as of course it uses more during warmup.

Hence my statement that the average over the longest and thus most varied, is the best indication of a true average fuel consumption !

When I fill the car up again I'll reset it and leave it for a month to see how it compares to the apps and the spreadsheet.
 
Mine was Ok over a 1500 mile holiday trip and fairly accurate (about 1mpg from memory) then I lost interest :D
 
Steve84N said:
What the handbook really means is it only starts adding to the average when the engine is on. The only thing that would make the average different in the scenario above is if you stopped and let it cool down as of course it uses more during warmup.
How could it add the average when the engine is off?
 
It won't - The system can only count when its alive.

What skelters is saying is - Multiple journeys from cold uses much more fuel in the warming up period.

We live at the bottom of a hill and the instant MPG reading when cold is 14mpg. Do that often on shorter trips and it has big an impact on the overall reading.

Its also the reason why manufactures quote 'X' mpg at constant speed - They start with a hot engine an a simulated flat road!

From memory here, Im sure my E85 had two trip mpg counters - one was overall and the other per trip ?
 
ronk said:
It won't - The system can only count when its alive.

What skelters is saying is - Multiple journeys from cold uses much more fuel in the warming up period.

We live at the bottom of a hill and the instant MPG reading when cold is 14mpg. Do that often on shorter trips and it has big an impact on the overall reading.

Its also the reason why manufactures quote 'X' mpg at constant speed - They start with a hot engine an a simulated flat road!

From memory here, Im sure my E85 had two trip mpg counters - one was overall and the other per trip ?

Just Trip A and B so you can reset one while the other still runs.
 
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