Modifications that add some value

R.E92 said:
I sent you the service history in a PM but it's stuck in my outbox. Let me know if you get it or not, the PM system on this forum is wonky.

PM’s stay in your outbox until the recipient has read them :thumbsup:
Rob
 
Smartbear said:
R.E92 said:
I sent you the service history in a PM but it's stuck in my outbox. Let me know if you get it or not, the PM system on this forum is wonky.

PM’s stay in your outbox until the recipient has read them :thumbsup:
Rob

That explains it, thanks. I was expecting it to work like an email exchange and thought the messages in my outbox were just stuck.
 
Pbondar said:
All your ideas are laudable but unlikely IMHO to add any value..

Mods are a very personal thing...I personally would probably not buy a car with a modded exhaust..as an example..Apple CarPlay has its costs and again how many people buying a 10 year old analogue car will be that bothered...

Service history wise on a 10 year old car with several owners again is offset by physical condition IMHO..

If you want to do the mods for your own benefit and joy then fill your boots and do what you want to do...you don’t need to justify or answer to anyone ...just do them! :thumbsup:

I've never heard more eloquent advice.
 
R.E92 said:
Adding carplay might make the car more attractive if it's the genuine BMW setup but if it's an aftermarket android tablet retrofit thing then I'd expect that to really take a chunk out of the future value.

Really? The wife is keen to have the Carplay added and the Android Unit looks good. I see that you can get an upgrade from CIC to NBT but that costs a bomb!
 
Might help a sale with soft top side covers, oem strut brace or areo side skirts? Parts not readily available today. Sorry, just realized this is E89 discussion. I have a 2006 Z4mr. Old people????
 
montymoore said:
R.E92 said:
Adding carplay might make the car more attractive if it's the genuine BMW setup but if it's an aftermarket android tablet retrofit thing then I'd expect that to really take a chunk out of the future value.

Really? The wife is keen to have the Carplay added and the Android Unit looks good. I see that you can get an upgrade from CIC to NBT but that costs a bomb!

Those android headunits never work well. You'll spend a load of money buying it, hours messing around butchering the centre console then even longer messing about getting it configured and in the end you'll still only be left with a cheap no-name android tablet that's running the Android equivalent of Windows XP and to get it upgraded you need to shell out for an entirely new bit of hardware.

You only need to skim through a couple of the Android replacement threads on here to see how it all ends up.
 
Thanks for the info! That is a shame. I might look at the NBT upgrade but that is north of £1000+ fitting and probably not worth the effort TBH.
 
I think non-modified cars keep their value. Any mod should be considered for your pleasure, and with no positive impact on resale. As has been mentioned above, the stubby aerial and the LCI side-indicators are probably worthwhile, as are the LCI steering wheel paddles, making the car possibly more attractive with OEM parts, but don't expect to recover the expense, just increasing its curb appeal.
 
montymoore said:
R.E92 said:
Adding carplay might make the car more attractive if it's the genuine BMW setup but if it's an aftermarket android tablet retrofit thing then I'd expect that to really take a chunk out of the future value.

Really? The wife is keen to have the Carplay added and the Android Unit looks good. I see that you can get an upgrade from CIC to NBT but that costs a bomb!

If I was looking for a car I wouldn't touch one which had it's original iDrive ripped out for some aftermarket android unit or a car that never had any idrive but had the dash ripped out for this and I suspect that would be the case with most people.

Not saying these cars are classics which right now they aren't but if you look at any classic car they are worth more in standard 'unmolested' state than one that has been messed around with.

Mods using OEM parts such as LCI indicators OE alloy pedals stubby aerial or OE styling parts will not cause the car to loose value but you will not gain value neither though might be easier to move on. If I were to do any significant mods such as body, suspension exhaust wheels etc. I would do it only if it can be reverted back to standard at a later date.
 
Deepseaskateboard said:
So, would anyone buy a remapped 20i, or would they prefer it reverted to stock, even if it’s a forum car?

Its a good point..I would be wary of a re-mapped car even though I'm guilty of irony is that if it was a Celtic type tune you would have to pay someone to remove it.. :rofl:
 
Deepseaskateboard said:
So, would anyone buy a remapped 20i, or would they prefer it reverted to stock, even if it’s a forum car?

I think a remap is somewhat different to a dashboard that has been hacked to fit some dodgy screen or bodywork that has been modified. Besides you could sell a remapped car without mentioning anything and in most cases buyers would be none the wiser.
 
Deepseaskateboard said:
So, would anyone buy a remapped 20i, or would they prefer it reverted to stock, even if it’s a forum car?

Depends on several other factors, as always. Generally though I would not touch one. All else being equal service condition etc etc.. the engine will suffer more wear than an unmodified one. Of course a well loved modified unit could be in better nick than a hammered standard one, but again those who mod for extra power have a tendency to use it and that causes wear how ever nice you think you are being.

Time will tell on this, there are many that have been modded. Give it another 5 years and we will know far more about how this affects the engine and the resale.

(A supercharge loved low mileage S54 though) :D
 
buzyg said:
Deepseaskateboard said:
So, would anyone buy a remapped 20i, or would they prefer it reverted to stock, even if it’s a forum car?

Depends on several other factors, as always. Generally though I would not touch one. All else being equal service condition etc etc.. the engine will suffer more wear than an unmodified one. Of course a well loved modified unit could be in better nick than a hammered standard one, but again those who mod for extra power have a tendency to use it and that causes wear how ever nice you think you are being.

Time will tell on this, there are many that have been modded. Give it another 5 years and we will know far more about how this affects the engine and the resale.

(A supercharge loved low mileage S54 though) :D

To add further confusion, seeing that the main difference between the 18i 20i and 28i is the ECU mapping by BMW and chip tuners like Celtic change the maps in the lower powered cars to match something like what BMW put in the 28i then would a stock 28i engine sustain more wear due to a more aggressive map than a stock 20i?
 
Silverstar said:
buzyg said:
Deepseaskateboard said:
So, would anyone buy a remapped 20i, or would they prefer it reverted to stock, even if it’s a forum car?

Depends on several other factors, as always. Generally though I would not touch one. All else being equal service condition etc etc.. the engine will suffer more wear than an unmodified one. Of course a well loved modified unit could be in better nick than a hammered standard one, but again those who mod for extra power have a tendency to use it and that causes wear how ever nice you think you are being.

Time will tell on this, there are many that have been modded. Give it another 5 years and we will know far more about how this affects the engine and the resale.

(A supercharge loved low mileage S54 though) :D

To add further confusion, seeing that the main difference between the 18i 20i and 28i is the ECU mapping by BMW and chip tuners like Celtic change the maps in the lower powered cars to match something like what BMW put in the 28i then would a stock 28i engine sustain more wear due to a more aggressive map than a stock 20i?

With a 'proper' re-map on the N20s its irrelevant where you start from, wear n tear will be the same at the same power level..


With external box fudgers there may be differences due to the way they 'fool' the orginal ECU and its orginal MAPs
 
It's an interestingly dilemma on an E89. Yes a remapped car tends to be driven a bit harder than a none remapped one and some will no doubt be abused. But who's buying a 28i not to enjoy the extra oomph from the factory, especially when there's plenty of cheaper 18/20i"s to choose from.

I guess for me I'd consider a car with a stage 1/2 remap, but whether I'd pull the trigger would probably depend a lot on my impressions of the owner. So not unlike a normal purchase in that respect. Anything beyond a stage 1/2 with the usual induction/exhaust changes and for me your getting into serious hardcore modding there of swapping out injectors, fuel pumps and the like. If your going to them sort of extremes your certainly not just looking for a little bit of extra go.
 
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