modding vs upgrading vs tuning

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domsz4

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shortish answers please.... just curious too get what people think modding is.

is it the same a tuning? is it just visual thing or a performance thing? is it just ricing a honda .... give us your thoughts....

personally modding is not adding a few visual bits. pedal covers/painting calipers/stubbies/red roofs/intravee's/etc is not modding. its just adding bits for the sake. modding is what you do to gain power or performance and by performance i mean quantifiable performance. so a k&n cone filter from ebay for 50 quid is not a mod its wasting your cash.
having you head ported/polished = mod. exhausts that remove cats or put high flow ones = mod. quad conversion that is simply an add on to look like an//m is not a mod. carbon fiber wrap not mod. proper carbon fibre part=mod (ish they reduce weight) sport button module = mod. you get my drift. i know there is grey areas. but you can sort of put most one side or the other of the fence.
 
I would say car tunning is more specific for engine component changes and modding an overall term which also covers cosmetic changes
 
imo: any change from showroom spec or not oem option == mod,
further to that tuning is more mechanicals/engine/chassis.

all good though :driving:
 
Tuning implies performance led optimisations; engine, drivetrain and handling.

Modifications could be any change from oem spec, can be performance parts or cosmetics.
 
to me - tuning: tweaking and playing with what's on the car already eg suspension setup, geometry, remaps

upgrading: replacing bits on the car to go faster - exhausts, induction, suspension, brakes

modding: all of the above plus non direct replacement or modding of any parts eg spoilers splitters, adding a turbo/supercharger etc
 
Jaw said:
to me - tuning: tweaking and playing with what's on the car already eg suspension setup, geometry, remaps

upgrading: replacing bits on the car to go faster - exhausts, induction, suspension, brakes

modding: all of the above plus non direct replacement or modding of any parts eg spoilers splitters, adding a turbo/supercharger etc
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To me this is all a bit out of order.
Tuning is engine work, bhp increases
Upgrading is changing shocks, brakes, worn out stuff
Modding is cosmetics, wheels, spoilers, lights
 
Modification ("modding") - noun

"Any change made to a car with the purpose of changing the visual appearance or performance. Such changes rarely result in added value, most commonly are completely loss-making and serve little or no long-term purpose. Many people who modify their vehicle will either sell it or wrap it around a tree within six months, and will ultimately feel all of the research, time and expense was utterly wasted. Heavily modified vehicles that survive long enough become almost part of the owner's psyche and come with an inherent value that is well beyond what a normal person would be willing to pay for them, therefore the owner is left with a vehicle they will never be able (or want) to sell, and will need to remove as many of the modifications as possible before selling the vehicle. Then the owner starts again, in a form of vicious circle."

I just made that up, but I think it summarises my own experience.

I gave up modding years ago, but it's all part of the tuning, upgrading, improving process that people go through.
 
I agree with strats, I have taken the roof of several vehicles over the years. It was part of their journey to the scrapper in the sky. the 9" Angle Grinder is the ultimate lightening tool. Eg. Start with a recently mot'd Saab 99 turbo. Cut off the roof. Remove the doors and glass. Strap on a flying helmet. Blast up and down like a demented loon for 11 months. Joy indeed.

I never imagined it was worth more than scrap though.
 
Finisterre said:
I agree with strats, I have taken the roof of several vehicles over the years. It was part of their journey to the scrapper in the sky. the 9" Angle Grinder is the ultimate lightening tool. Eg. Start with a recently mot'd Saab 99 turbo. Cut off the roof. Remove the doors and glass. Strap on a flying helmet. Blast up and down like a demented loon for 11 months. Joy indeed.

I never imagined it was worth more than scrap though.
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Stratts said:
No bitterness, loved every minute of it.
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Still you describe it as time and expence utterly wasted.
Time wasted... it's a hobby. That's not a way to waste time, but to spend time.
And money wasted.... Ever bought a new car? I drive a 40k daily that I bought new (not even that special, cars are just expensive in the netherlands), and it probably lost more value in the first half year than I have spend modding my car. Money wasted on the daily? No, the car is expenses my clients pay ultimately :lol:
And if you buy a nice car that has been tuned by a tuning company (lets say an audi R8 by MTM).... don't bother to look up what that costs as an extra packeage :rofl: (and where's the fun in that)
So maybe modding isn't for everyone, but I like to tinker. On cars, or even other stuff. Inventing my own wheel, sometimes doing stuff nobody has done before. Better than sitting in front of the telly.
 
Tuning in adjusting what you have already. Might make it slower, still tuning.

Modding is making any Changes to what you have already. Aditional OEM items fitted after purchase are modifications.

Upgrading, far more subjective, not sure I can define that one. One mans upgrade can be an others idea of retrograde.

Could be why I bought windows 8.1 last year then uninstalled it and currently still run windows XP. Wasn't an upgrade in my eyes. :D
 
I was just being facetious: in response to some of the recent threads on this forum (and others), I was just pointing out that in my experience all modding has done is led to significant expense that could have been better spent elsewhere.

So, in response to the original question, I was just saying what I think modding is - a load of work, great experience, but ultimately difficult to justify when (like me) you sell a car on after a year.
 
Yes, when selling on a car in only one year, it's no sound investment. The investment is for yourself.
On the other hand, the mods themself are often less depreciating than the car. If i'd sell my car, the 2nd had quaife diff will fetch a good price, where depreciation will be less (also percentage wise) than de depriciation on the car. But sold on the car, it will hardly boost the price funny enough.
You see it in threads here. Someone wants to sell his z, and the first post is "How much for the BBK?". Nobody wants the Z, everybody wants the BBK :lol:
Nobody wants the Z with the BBK :wink:
 
GuidoK said:
Yes, when selling on a car in only one year, it's no sound investment. The investment is for yourself.
On the other hand, the mods themself are often less depreciating than the car. If i'd sell my car, the 2nd had quaife diff will fetch a good price, where depreciation will be less (also percentage wise) than de depriciation on the car. But sold on the car, it will hardly boost the price funny enough.
You see it in threads here. Someone wants to sell his z, and the first post is "How much for the BBK?". Nobody wants the Z, everybody wants the BBK :lol:
Nobody wants the Z with the BBK :wink:
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What's a BBK ? :?
 
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