Busterboo said:Thank you, but for the moment I'm only interested in Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
mr wilks said:Busterboo said:Thank you, but for the moment I'm only interested in Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
Without question one of the worst tyres ive ever had from a premium make , the only worse being Pirelli Cinturatos that i wouldn't want on a wheelbarrow .
The MPSS is only any use to someone caning their car on warm dry tarmac , for the other 99% of users 99% of the year they are woefully inept , the PS4S is a massive step forward in that they grip like fury in the dry , decent enough in the damp & take zero warming up BUT , this comes at a cost ( not monetary ) in cabin noisecurrently running a virtually new set of PS4S in 20s on my M4 & the road noise is intolerable .
This will be the 3rd car ( 997 C4 & 35iS ) ive bought with PS4S on that i've switched the almost new tyres on :| id love to love them but can't , just way too noisy .
Mr Tidy said:My MC had 19" MPSS tyres fitted when I bought it in December 2019.
I collected it 150 miles from home and on a cold, drizzly, grey day they were hopeless - every roundabout had the Traction Control working hard.![]()
But on a dry summers day they were great.
I swapped wheels to 18s last year and based on one of mrwilks posts had Kumho Ecstas fitted and they are much better in less than perfect weather.![]()
:wink: and yes once it is dry and warm they are just amazing. buzyg said:I gather the ///MR is a more tractable beast than the ///MC in bad and bumpy conditions. So maybe an ///MR instead of a Hearst.
Busterboo said:Thank you all very much, indeed.
Almost needless to say, I shan't be buying MPSS.
Jellyfishfields said:Personally I don't get the criticism of the MPSS, we had them on our M140i and found them to be an excellent allround tyre in the summer, rain or shine. We use winter tyres in the colder months.
Mr Tidy said:Jellyfishfields said:Personally I don't get the criticism of the MPSS, we had them on our M140i and found them to be an excellent allround tyre in the summer, rain or shine. We use winter tyres in the colder months.
I think that sums it up though. I've used my MC all year round so long as there is no salt about, and that's when I found the MPSS had limitations on colder days.
If it's any combination of cold, damp, drizzly, icy or salty I take the 3 Series that does get winters fitted.