Michelin Cups

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Angelus666

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 Essex
Anyone ever run the cup tyres on their car...? Would be interested to know the performance difference between them and the MPSS on these cars? There was a big difference on the CSL.
 
It'll be the same improvement in the Z4M i'm sure. Would love to try a set on the track but they cost too much for me!
 
There's a Cup 2 now. Supposed to be much better in the wet than the originals but you need to be a serious track day enthusiast to put up with about 3.5mm of usable tread depth. I think they do the Cup 2 in CSL wheel suitable sizes.
 
There is also a Cup Plus (though I think the two replaces the Plus). I haven't driven the 2/+ it but I have experienced it on friends' GT3s - absolutely awesome. In the dry on track it is a significant step up from the MPSS. It is also much quieter on the road than the R888/ZZR/A048 tread style tyres.

I believe it is meant to be available in a good range of sizes if it is it'll definitely be my next R rated tyre.
 
I ran mine on Michelin Cups for a bit and in the right conditions they were magnificent on the road although they never saw a track. The traction they provided on a dry warm day was fantastic. Unfortunately the right conditions don't come along that often in Scotland so I stopped using them. I've actually still got them, should've sold them ages ago.

The difference between them and the PSS isn't as marked as the difference when compared with PS2's however.
 
Wouldn't something like the Toyo R888 be cheaper and similar if not better?
 
tertius said:
carl said:
Wouldn't something like the Toyo R888 be cheaper and similar if not better?
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Cheaper and similar, but definitely not better.
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Most of the people I know who run "roadgoing" race cars use R888.
 
I wrote to Michelin a few months back and this is part of the reply:
"Michelin currently hold several of the Nurburgring track records with the Pilot Sport Cup2 tyre. Which is from the same family as Pilot Super Sport, and runs compounds derived from our wins at Le-Mans. The tread depth is slightly shallower ( ~5.4mm) and the tread has more solid block and less grooves. Therefore I would expect the comparison around the Nurburgring between Cup2 and PSS to be in the realms of 10-20 seconds a lap (estimated)

I hope this information is of use and maybe you will consider trying the Cup 2's on your car. PS... they last well and are also significantly more consistent than most of the other similar tyres on the market, giving you lap after lap of performance"
 
Quite surprised the difference is as small as that, I'd expect quite a bit more.

Don't suppose they said when they would be available a decent range of 18" sizes did they? I've done a bit of searching and there don't seem to be many sizes available.
 
tertius said:
Quite surprised the difference is as small as that, I'd expect quite a bit more.

Don't suppose they said when they would be available a decent range of 18" sizes did they? I've done a bit of searching and there don't seem to be many sizes available.
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I would've thought that the difference would be greater too. There was no other useful information in the email.
 
original guvnor said:
There's a Cup 2 now. Supposed to be much better in the wet than the originals but you need to be a serious track day enthusiast to put up with about 3.5mm of usable tread depth. I think they do the Cup 2 in CSL wheel suitable sizes.
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I have the original CSL wheels and tyre sizes on my Z4M (235/35x19 front and 265/30x19 rear). I wanted to try the new Michelin Cup 2 tyres on my car…but the rear tyre size is not available in CUP 2. I don't understand why Michelin is not making the CUP 2 available in 265/30x19. The BMW CSL was equipped from the factory with the original CUP tyres and now Michelin does not make the new CUP 2 for the CSL.
 
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