MEYLE HD

pell

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Hi, mot done, could do with front suspension arms and bushes and drop links, do you think MEYLE HD is a good way to go or any others you would say ? cheers, alan.
 
thanks for reply, looks like going with them then, found a full set on ebay, arms, bushes and links for £206, doe s that sound about right ?
 
I have never been impressed that their own website they state "..With our MEYLE-branded products we supply extremely reliable and durable automotive spare parts manufactured at our own production sites and at trusted production partners..". To me that suggests that the parts are not always produced by MEYLE and therefore you do not know who is producing them.
 
pell said:
And would i need a wheel alignment ? im guessing not but no harm asking you guys, thanks again.

If you are making changes to components that may have a bearing on the suspension geometry such as bushes, balljoints and suspension arms, I would recommend getting the wheel alignment done. It is the reason I generally replace suspension parts in pairs and replace not just the failing part but anything else that may be close to failing. I have just replaced the entire suspension on my 82k mini (all shocks, springs, rubber spring seats, shock top mounts, all bushes and front wishbones). Then I had it tracked at mini specialist Lohen. It drives like a new car now and I shouldn't have to touch it for many years.
 
What Magicarcher and cj10jeeper said... :thumbsup:

If you're replacing one thing with another (lets say bushes), it's likely that the first part wasn't quite 100% exactly the same as the new one even when brand new. If any alignments have been done between then and now (to compensate for the natural wear of the parts for example), or any other changes, the alignment settings will likely need to change when your new parts go on. Also, metal parts do change shape ever so slightly over time since they're subject to stresses all the time.

Can second having alignments sorted - our old Polo's front wheels were WAY off at one point after a spring broke and was replaced. It was like a new (old) car! :)

Oh and - I'm looking at Meyle HD when I set about my suspension refresh. I think ducklakeview used some of those bits and was pleased too :)
 
ok thanks for all the great comments, whats the cost on a hunters alignment ? i will do a google now and see if there is any close by, thanks again.
 
Magicarcher said:
I have never been impressed that their own website they state "..With our MEYLE-branded products we supply extremely reliable and durable automotive spare parts manufactured at our own production sites and at trusted production partners..". To me that suggests that the parts are not always produced by MEYLE and therefore you do not know who is producing them.

Welcome to the modern day automotive supply chain. A huge proportion of every car is not made by the OEM but it was built to their specifications (developed in collaboration with third-party suppliers). Same with the tier 1 and tier 2 etc. suppliers. Ultimately you come down to nuts, bolts, bearings etc. all manufactured by specialists. If you've never heard of Magna Steyr its worth looking them up. I believe the are the largest automotive supplier in the world. They actually run the production lines for many OEM's including BMW, Mercedes and JLR. So the OEM sells cars that haven't even been assembled in their own plants.
 
Yup, MeyleHD and Lemforder are my go to brands for suspension components these days. Never had a problem with them. Have replaced EVERY suspension bush front and rear on my Zed and it transformed the car.

Mike
 
I replaced my front arm rear bushes with mele a month ago and they are fine.

I had the alignment done a few weeks before. The alignment guy said the alignment wouldn't need doing again after the rear bushes were replaced.

Is that true ?
 
Rob_benton said:
I replaced my front arm rear bushes with mele a month ago and they are fine.

I had the alignment done a few weeks before. The alignment guy said the alignment wouldn't need doing again after the rear bushes were replaced.

Is that true ?

No. The bottom outer bushes on the rear are the ones that control the camber, they have an eccentric washer welded to the bolt. As soon as you change them then the camber will also change.

Alignment guy should know better!

Mike
 
Even if you get the bolt back in the same position the camber will be different. In fact I changed mine purely to get less camber as the wear in them was allowing more sag and therefore more camber.
 
This really is simple. Change anything on the suspension that is worn or damaged and the alignment needs checking. Leave it and your trusting to luck that all is well and you won't have sub optimal handling or eat tyres

If you go to a Hunter equipped centre they check it for free and charge per adjustment so there's nothing to lose
 
:thumbsup: change in mirror images do the same to both sides - suspension and tyres. Otherwise its like only getting one shoe resoled :o

Just MOTed and had alignment done on my sons 22 year old MR2 today. Had a broken spring but we ended up with new springs; dampers; stops; dust covers; ball joints and new powerflex bushes all round (not to mention other stuff in passing - may soon be the start of a kids car thread) after God know how many owners and 100K+ miles the ride is now stable and the car is tight into corners. At last I can get on with referbing the spare complete rear subframe I got so I can swap it into my Zed. I'm with Mike DLV and going Meyle HD :thumbsup: I like the ride and as my DD I don't want to go powerflex or polybush.
 
Newbers said:
Magicarcher said:
I have never been impressed that their own website they state "..With our MEYLE-branded products we supply extremely reliable and durable automotive spare parts manufactured at our own production sites and at trusted production partners..". To me that suggests that the parts are not always produced by MEYLE and therefore you do not know who is producing them.

Welcome to the modern day automotive supply chain. A huge proportion of every car is not made by the OEM but it was built to their specifications (developed in collaboration with third-party suppliers). Same with the tier 1 and tier 2 etc. suppliers. Ultimately you come down to nuts, bolts, bearings etc. all manufactured by specialists. If you've never heard of Magna Steyr its worth looking them up. I believe the are the largest automotive supplier in the world. They actually run the production lines for many OEM's including BMW, Mercedes and JLR. So the OEM sells cars that haven't even been assembled in their own plants.

This is the case, but there is a gulf between the OEM supply chain and aftermarket parts. When an OEM chooses a supplier/partner the supplier/partner will not only have to meet the OEM specifications; but the materials that they use will have been controlled; their production facilities will have been assessed by the OEMs SQA engineer prior to being awarded the business; their part will have had to go through rigorous product development testing to assess not only performance but durability; they will have to have quality plans in place such as design for six sigma (these will have to be audited and their compliance to these procedures audited); they will have to have completed a comprehensive DFMEA and PFMEA; before parts are allowed anywhere near a production vehicle the parts will have to go through a Production Parts Approval Process; The OEM will have a contract in place to indemnify them against cost of warranty claims attributed to faulty parts; there is a massive incentive to the OEM supplier/partner to get it right, loss of a major OEM through poor quality can be very costly.

I am not convinced the average aftermarket parts supplier will go to these lengths with the partners they subcontract to, it simply costs too much (and requires a great deal of expertise).

For that reason I will always choose a name that I know supplies automotive OEMs such as ZF, Lemforder, Sachs, Bilstein, Valeo, Bosch. I can't be sure they wont subcontract the manufacturing out to a third party supplier, but at least if they do I would hope they have learned enough from supplying OEMs to know what is needed.

The other thing I do is only buy from a supplier that I know is approved by the manufacturer, there are a lot of fake parts around and just because it says "Brembo" or "Febi" it does not mean it is.
 
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